Insteon Themostat Issue

[ThisIsTheWay]

I have a a 2441TH Thermostat that I would like to use to control my in window air conditioner. I planned to achieve this by using the Themostat to control an IRLinc that is already allowing me to switch the mode on the window air conditioner from "fan" to "cool" and from "cool" to "fan"

 

The IRLinc commands are tested an working. I have a remoteLinc controlling the IRLinc now.

 

I can also see the current temperature, humidity, and settings for the linked Thermostat. So, I assume that is working.

 

However, I tried writing a program that would preform the same function as the remoteLinc when the thermostat "calls for cooling" but it never runs.

 

If
       Status  'BedThermostat' is Calling for Cool

Then
       Set 'IRLinc_AC_COOL' 1 (Beep Duration)

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello uffy,

 

I have never seen that command work on IRLinc ... we have just left it there because it should be supported!

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[ThisIsTheWay]

I have also tried to have the IF statement trigger a light being turned on. The IF statement is never triggered.

 

EDIT: is is possibly similar to this issue? viewtopic.php?f=27&t=8745 Then it looks like there is no solution.

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi uffy,

 

The problem is that IRLinc Beep function does not work (or, at least, not that I have seen).

 

What's the condition for your If statement? If status of a device (as you had listed), then please open the Event Viewer on level 3, turn on/off one of your devices, and check the traffic in the Event Viewer. Do you see any traffic?

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[ThisIsTheWay]

What i meant is that I have tried using a different THEN command with the same IF statement as above and the IF command has never been triggered in order to set off the the THEN.

 

 

ie.

If
       Status  'BedThermostat' is Calling for Cool

Then
       Set SOME_LIGHT' ON
Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi uffy,

 

The problem is that your thermostat is not reporting that status to ISY (for some reason). What you want to do is to look at the Event Viewer (level 3) and then try and make your thermostat call for Heat/Cool. You should see CLIHCS events. If you don't, then that's where the problem is and, in all likelihood, it has to do with how your thermostat is linked to ISY. If this is the case, the first thing I recommend is to remove the thermostat and then add it back in/retry.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[ThisIsTheWay]

So, I checked the event viewer level 3 and changed the cool point such that it would make the unit call for cooling. This is what showed. No "CLIHCS" event. There is however, "CLISPC." Is that good?

 

 

What is the recommended manner of delinking and then relinking?

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:46 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1D 6C 80 1F 6C 8C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:46 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1D.6C.80 1F 6C 8C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 (8C)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:46 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 1B.FB.1C 27 6C 8C (8C)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:46 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][1D.6C.80-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:48 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 00.00.01 C7 13 00 LTOFFRR(00)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:48 AM : [standard-Group][1D.6C.80-->Group=1] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:48 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 00.00.01 C7 13 00 LTOFFRR(00)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:48 AM : [standard-Group][1D.6C.80-->Group=1] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:49 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 1B.FB.1C 41 13 01 LTOFFRR(01)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:49 AM : [standard-Cleanup][1D.6C.80-->ISY/PLM Group=1] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:49 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 1B.FB.1C 41 13 01 LTOFFRR(01): Process Message: Ignored

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:49 AM : [standard-Cleanup][1D.6C.80-->ISY/PLM Group=1] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:49 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 13.00.01 C7 06 00 (00)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:49 AM : [standard-Group][1D.6C.80-->13.00.01] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:49 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 13.00.01 C7 06 00 (00)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:49 AM : [standard-Group][1D.6C.80-->13.00.01] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:51 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1D 6C 80 1F 6C 8C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:51 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1D.6C.80 1F 6C 8C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 (8C)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:51 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 1B.FB.1C 27 6C 8C (8C)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:51 AM : [standard-Direct Ack][1D.6C.80-->ISY/PLM Group=0] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

Wed 05/30/2012 08:58:51 AM : [ 1D 6C 80 1] CLISPC 140

 

 

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello uffy,

 

CLISPC = CLImate-SetPoint-Cool .... so this is your cool set point. Does the thermostat actually call for heat/cool? You might want to try changing the set point right at the thermostat and not from ISY.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[ThisIsTheWay]

I deleted the Thermometer and re-linked it. Now this is what I receive when I change the temp on the Themometer such that it should trigger cooling mode.

 

At this time, the thermometer shows "Cooling" but it looks like the ISY does not get the message.

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:34 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 00.00.01 C7 11 00 LTONRR (00)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:34 PM : [standard-Group][1D.6C.80-->Group=1] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:34 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 00.00.01 C7 11 00 LTONRR (00)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:34 PM : [standard-Group][1D.6C.80-->Group=1] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:35 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 1B.FB.1C 41 11 01 LTONRR (01)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:35 PM : [standard-Cleanup][1D.6C.80-->ISY/PLM Group=1] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:35 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 1B.FB.1C 41 11 01 LTONRR (01): Process Message: Ignored

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:35 PM : [standard-Cleanup][1D.6C.80-->ISY/PLM Group=1] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:35 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 11.00.01 C7 06 00 (00)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:35 PM : [standard-Group][1D.6C.80-->11.00.01] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:35 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.6C.80 11.00.01 C7 06 00 (00)

 

Wed 05/30/2012 02:47:35 PM : [standard-Group][1D.6C.80-->11.00.01] Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

 

[andyf0]

I'm sending mine back. Even without linking it to ISY and using it as a normal thermostat it doesn't work very well. It won't update it's temperature and turn on cooling unless I adjust the set point locally, then the temperature jumps 2 degrees. When the A/C is on it won't turn it off or show the lowering temperatures until I hit a set point button.

[ThisIsTheWay]

I'm sending mine back. Even without linking it to ISY and using it as a normal thermostat it doesn't work very well. It won't update it's temperature and turn on cooling unless I adjust the set point locally, then the temperature jumps 2 degrees. When the A/C is on it won't turn it off or show the lowering temperatures until I hit a set point button.

 

Do you have any experience with the other Thermostat offerings like the Ventrstar?

[andyf0]

I'm sending mine back. Even without linking it to ISY and using it as a normal thermostat it doesn't work very well. It won't update it's temperature and turn on cooling unless I adjust the set point locally, then the temperature jumps 2 degrees. When the A/C is on it won't turn it off or show the lowering temperatures until I hit a set point button.

 

Do you have any experience with the other Thermostat offerings like the Ventrstar?

 

I am currently using 2 Venstar thermostats. One as a master and another as a slave controlled using ISY programs. They do work better at temperature monitoring and control but don't look as nice as the Smarthome thermostat. They've been available for a while and consequently their firmware is a lot more robust. If you peruse the ISY logs you do see some bogus messages but they are corrected within 2 secs and do not affect operation.

 

From an operational standpoint they are very good, just not that cosmetically appealing.

 

I'm hoping someone develops some network resources to control a NEST thermostat. That would be awesome.

[ThisIsTheWay]

Looks like this thermostat is going back. Oh well.