Mysterious Self-Activating Light

wswartz · January 9, 2013

In one instance, I have a single Switchlinc Relay that is coming on by itself. In addition, I have another set of dimmers which are doing something similar.

For the switch, I've noticed it coming on in the morning at sunrise, apparently by itself. When it does this, the ISY does not recognize that the switch is on (ISY interface says it's OFF). Also, I set a notification to send me an email when it does come on. As you can imagine, since the ISY doesn't know it's on (when it is), I get no notification. I looked at the log and there is no indication that the light ever came on. Finally, I ran an event view and was able to capture the following:

Mon 01/07/2013 08:11:56 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 19 ED 3F 0F 2E 00

Mon 01/07/2013 08:11:56 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 19.ED.3F 0F 2E 00 06                 (00)

Mon 01/07/2013 08:11:56 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 19.ED.3F 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00           (00)

Mon 01/07/2013 08:11:56 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 19.ED.3F-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

19.ED.3F is the address for the switch. 19.74.C6 is the address of my PLM. I don't know what the rest of this means, but I'd have to guess that means, turn on the switch!

In another instance, I have a scene that seems to be invoking itself sometime after midnight. This is a set of dimmers and they are all coming on at just 6%. A rather odd level to be set at; I don't have any programs that set dimmers to such low level.

These switches, and any associated programs, have been running flawlessly in my environment for the previous year. I've made no additions or changes to the programs relating to this area of the house. If I had to correlate this to some event, I did re-introduce a Keypadlinc into my system that had been previously removed. I surmised that it may be some rogue link in the KPL that set this off, but I've dismissed that because:

1. Hitting buttons on the re-installed KPL doesn't seem to affect the troubled switch.

2. The switch in question only seems to come on at sunrise.

3. It seems to be a programmatic event sent from the PLM (and thus, the ISY).

My question is: how can I further diagnose this issue? I've gone through my programs associated with this area of the house and can't seem to find anything that would cause this. Also what's odd, in the case of my single switch, this is happening to only one switch when all the programs I have made for this area are based on invoking a scene.

Any ideas are welcome!

Bill

LeeG · January 9, 2013

Look at the ISY Log and see what was logged at that time. The 0x2E command issued in the Standard format is turn On device at specified Ramp Rate. The ISY does not expose this command which makes its use odd. Perhaps this was a LED Brightness change that built a Standard command rather than an Extended command.

wswartz · January 10, 2013

Got a chance to catch this again this morning. Subject light comes on at exactly sunrise. Below is the full event view with the events that happened at sunrise. The events associated with the device in question (19.ED.3F) are highlighted in RED.

Yes, I do have a bunch of LED changes all happening at sunrise. I looked at the log but it only has a few entries for this time.

Let me know if there is something more we can look at.

Bill

LOG:

House / Basement / Game Room / Basement.SD.Picture On Level 100% Thu 2013/01/10 08:11:23 AM System Log
House / Basement / Game Room / Basement.SD.Picture Ramp Rate 0.1 Sec Thu 2013/01/10 08:11:23 AM System Log
House / Basement / Game Room / Basement.SD.StairsDown_load Ramp Rate 0.1 Sec Thu 2013/01/10 08:11:23 AM System Log
House / Basement / Game Room / Basement.SD.StairsDown_load On Level 100% Thu 2013/01/10 08:11:23 AM System Log
House / Basement / Game Room / Basement.SD.StairsUp_cont On Level 100% Thu 2013/01/10 08:11:23 AM System Log
House / Basement / Game Room / Basement.SD.StairsUp_cont Ramp Rate 0.1 Sec Thu 2013/01/10 08:11:23 AM System Log
House / Main Floor / Dining / Dining.SD.Light On 127 Thu 2013/01/10 08:11:56 AM Program Log
House / Main Floor / Dining / Dining.SD.Light Status 50% Thu 2013/01/10 08:11:56 AM System Log

EVENT VIEW:

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:19 AM : [ Time] 08:11:21 1(0)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:20 AM : [ Time] 08:11:22 1(0)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [ 1B BC 6A 1] OL 255

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [ 1B BC 6A 1] RR 31

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [ 1C B1 7A 1] RR 31

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [ 1C B1 7A 1] OL 255

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [ 1B AD BD 1] OL 255

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [ 1B AD BD 1] RR 31

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 12 81 D1 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 12.81.D1 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 12.81.D1 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 12.81.D1-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 12 82 5E 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 12.82.5E 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 12.82.5E 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:24 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 12.82.5E-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:25 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 17 21 CF 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:25 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 17.21.CF 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:25 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 17.21.CF 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:25 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 17.21.CF-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:25 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 19 ED 3F 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:25 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 19.ED.3F 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 19.ED.3F 19.74.C6 27 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 19.ED.3F-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1A 48 5E 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 19.ED.3F 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 19.ED.3F-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1A.48.5E 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.48.5E 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1A.48.5E-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1A 54 D7 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:26 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1A.54.D7 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.54.D7 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1A.54.D7-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1A 56 2B 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.54.D7 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1A.54.D7-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1A.56.2B 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.56.2B 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1A.56.2B-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1A 58 50 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1A.58.50 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.58.50 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1A.58.50-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:27 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1B 25 AE 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:28 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.58.50 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:28 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1A.58.50-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:28 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.25.AE 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:28 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.25.AE 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:28 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.25.AE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:28 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B AB FD 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:28 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.AB.FD 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:29 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.AB.FD 19.74.C6 27 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:29 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.AB.FD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:29 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B AD BD 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:29 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.AD.BD 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.AD.BD 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.AD.BD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B AD BD 1F 2E 00 01 06 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.AD.BD 1F 2E 00 01 06 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.AD.BD 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.AD.BD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B AD BD 1F 2E 00 01 05 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.AD.BD 1F 2E 00 01 05 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.AD.BD 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.AD.BD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B AD DD 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.AD.BD 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.AD.BD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:30 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.AD.DD 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:31 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.AD.BD 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:31 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.AD.BD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:31 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.AD.BD 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:31 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.AD.BD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:32 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.AD.DD 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:32 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.AD.DD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:32 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B B1 67 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:32 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.B1.67 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:32 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.B1.67 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:32 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.B1.67-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:33 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B B2 C2 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:33 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.B2.C2 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:33 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.B2.C2 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:33 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.B2.C2-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:33 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B BA 24 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:33 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.BA.24 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:34 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.BA.24 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:34 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.BA.24-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:34 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B BA B1 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:34 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.BA.B1 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:34 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.BA.24 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:34 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.BA.24-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:34 AM : CLI-WBug: Connecting to datafeed.weatherbug.com

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:34 AM : CLI-WBug: Successfully Processed WBug Response

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:35 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.BA.B1 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:35 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.BA.B1-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:35 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B BC 6A 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:35 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.BC.6A 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:35 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.BC.6A 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:35 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.BC.6A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:35 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B BC 6A 1F 2E 00 01 06 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:35 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.BC.6A 1F 2E 00 01 06 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:36 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.BC.6A 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:36 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.BC.6A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:36 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B BC 6A 1F 2E 00 01 05 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:36 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.BC.6A 1F 2E 00 01 05 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:37 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.BC.6A 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:37 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.BC.6A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:37 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B BF FE 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:37 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.BF.FE 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:37 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.BC.6A 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:37 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.BC.6A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:38 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.BF.FE 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:38 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.BF.FE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:38 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1B C0 C4 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:38 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.C0.C4 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:38 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.C0.C4 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:38 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.C0.C4-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:38 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1B E0 60 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:38 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.E0.60 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:39 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.E0.60 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:39 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.E0.60-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:39 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1B E1 2E 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:39 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.E1.2E 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:40 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.E1.2E 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:40 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.E1.2E-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:40 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1B E1 34 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:40 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.E1.34 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.E1.34 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.E1.34-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1B E1 41 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.E1.41 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.E1.41 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.E1.41-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1B E1 51 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.E1.51 1F 2E 00 00 03 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.E1.41 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:41 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.E1.41-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:42 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.E1.51 19.74.C6 AB 2E FD (FD)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:42 AM : [std-Direct Nack] 1B.E1.51-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:42 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1C B1 7A 1F 2E 00 00 07 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:42 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1C.B1.7A 1F 2E 00 00 07 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:43 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.B1.7A 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:43 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1C.B1.7A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:43 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1C B1 7A 1F 2E 00 01 06 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:43 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1C.B1.7A 1F 2E 00 01 06 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:43 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.B1.7A 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:43 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1C.B1.7A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:43 AM : [iNST-TX-I2 ] 02 62 1C B1 7A 1F 2E 00 01 05 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:43 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1C.B1.7A 1F 2E 00 01 05 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AD 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:44 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.B1.7A 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:44 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1C.B1.7A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:44 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 1D E3 84 1F 2E 00 00 07 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:44 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1D.E3.84 1F 2E 00 00 07 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:45 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.E3.84 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:45 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1D.E3.84-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:45 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 20 80 ED 1F 2E 00 00 07 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:45 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.80.ED 1F 2E 00 00 07 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:46 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 20.80.ED 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:46 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 20.80.ED-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:46 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 20 97 8E 1F 2E 00 00 07 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:46 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.97.8E 1F 2E 00 00 07 FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CC 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:46 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 20.97.8E 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:46 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 20.97.8E-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:46 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 09 1A 0E 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:46 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 09.1A.0E 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:47 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 09.1A.0E 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:47 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 09.1A.0E-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:47 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 09 1C CC 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:47 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 09.1C.CC 0F 2E 00 06 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:47 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 09.1A.0E 19.74.C6 23 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:47 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 09.1A.0E-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:47 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 09.1C.CC 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:47 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 09.1C.CC-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:54 AM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1B BA B1 0F 11 7F

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:54 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1B.BA.B1 0F 11 7F 06 LTONRR (7F)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:54 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1B.BA.B1 19.74.C6 2B 11 7F LTONRR (7F)

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:54 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 1B.BA.B1-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 08:11:54 AM : [ 1B BA B1 1] ST 127

LeeG · January 10, 2013

wswartz

Try a right click on the device node, select Diagnostics | Query Insteon Engine. The trace shows a similar situation this morning. A 2E command in the Standard format is being used which does turn the device On. I continue to think the ISY should have issued an Extended 2E command to set a Local On Level or Local Ramp Rate for 19 ED 3F.

What ISY Firmware level is being used?

Michel

Is there any situation where the ISY would issue a Standard format 2E command? I did not think the ISY surfaced that Insteon command function anywhere. It looks like an Extended format 2E command should have been issued.

wswartz · January 10, 2013

OK, I've narrowed this down much further. Based on LeeG's comment regarding LED brightness, I looked at all of my programs relating to LED changes. I found that changing the brightness on this device will turn the light on every time. I can do this from a program or manually through the ISY interface. Here's what I did to test this:

1. Insure light is off.

2. From the ISY interface, change LED brightness from 255 to 254.

3. Light comes on!

4. ISY interface still shows light off. If I do a query, it shows on.

5. Can repeat steps above, does it every time.

See a copy of the event log for when this happens.

I send LED brightness changes to pretty much all my devices twice a day. For this area of the house, I've been doing this for the past year or so. This is the only one doing this and it just started within the last week.

Bill

Thu 01/10/2013 09:36:28 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 19 ED 3F 0F 2E 00

Thu 01/10/2013 09:36:28 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 19.ED.3F 0F 2E 00 06                 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 09:36:28 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 19.ED.3F 19.74.C6 2B 2E 00           (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 09:36:28 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 19.ED.3F-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

wswartz · January 10, 2013

LeeG,

Just saw your other note. My ISY version is v3.3.7.

Output of the Query Insteon Engine output for that device is below.

I compared the LED change events of my troubled device with those of others in the log and they look the same. Wondering why this particular one is the only one that turns on with a LED change.

Bill

hu 01/10/2013 09:44:21 AM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 19 ED 3F 0F 0D 00

Thu 01/10/2013 09:44:21 AM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 19.ED.3F 0F 0D 00 06                 (00)

Thu 01/10/2013 09:44:21 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 19.ED.3F 19.74.C6 2B 0D 01           (01)

Thu 01/10/2013 09:44:21 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 19.ED.3F-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Thu 01/10/2013 09:44:21 AM : [19 ED 3F 0  ] Calibrating engine version

Thu 01/10/2013 09:44:21 AM : [19 ED 3F 0  ] May not fully support i2, reverting to i1

Thu 01/10/2013 09:44:21 AM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 19.ED.3F 19.74.C6 23 0D 01           (01)

Thu 01/10/2013 09:44:21 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 19.ED.3F-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

Xathros · January 10, 2013

wswartz-

The 6% on with LED dim/brighten issue is one that several of us experienced over the last few firmware revs and it appears to be resolved in 3.3.8

-Xathros

wswartz · January 10, 2013

Thanks for the suggestion. I upgraded my system to v3.3.8 and it seems to have fixed the problem.

Appreciate everyone's help.

Bill

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