Guy Lavoie

Interesting. I did think about motor noise interference, but hadn't looked up the fact that the i/o linc is powerline only, which would certainly make the problem more likely. I also have a separate closed door sensor and Insteon thermostat in the garage (which is detached from the house but close by). Maybe adding an unused lamplinc might be an idea for signal strength.

I thought I'd start this thread after another user (oberkc) mentioned a problem similar to one I've been having, where the status of the door closure detector doesn't seem to be updating. In my case, it seems that the status of the door detection remains On (ie: the door is closed) even after opening the door. The result is that a command to then close the door doesn't do anything. In testing it, I would issue a Query from the admin console and that seems to update the status. In response, I've added a few Query commands, spaced with Wait statements after opening the door. This hasn't been implemented for long enough to know if it's a viable workaround, but I'd like to know if others have experienced the same thing with this module?

Interesting, a few days ago I also created a test program (but simpler than yours) to test that a series of waits would always complete, as part of trying to understand this problem. I created 9 integer variables, and a program like yours that incremented one variable, sent a few Insteon commands (turning off basement lights), wait a few seconds, then increment the next variable, etc, all the way to the end. Then I had a second program trigger it every few minutes. My thinking was that if the program ended before all the waits had executed, then some of the later integer increments would be missing. I let it run overnight. The next day, all the integers had incremented to the same value, about 550. None were missing. Both our tests seem to indicate that the problem is elsewhere. Having motion sensors in the mix can certainly be a factor. I suggest that CoolToys try to simplify it down to something more linear (without anything that might cause random triggers, like motion sensors) and/or break it up into several programs that would make it easier to troubleshoot.

Yes, I hope they give out a few more details of how it works, what's needed, etc. A teaser screen shot of the new admin console wouldn't hurt

Not to hijack the thread, but are you talking about the Insteon garage door kit that has an i/o linc? Just reply yes or no. If yes, it might be worth starting a separate thread on it. Thanks.

I'd do it like this: If 'Motion Detector' is switched On (Control) And $Test1 is 0 Then Set 'Test Switch' On Wait 1 minute Set 'Test Switch' Off ------------------------------------------------- Override motion sensing If 'Test Switch' is switched On (Control) >>> paddle the switch ON Then Stop program 'Motion turns on Switch' Set $Test1 = 1 ------------------------------------------------- Wait 15 seconds after turning off the switch before resetting the variable (to prevent motion restarting timer) If 'Test Switch' is switched Off (Control) Then Wait 15 seconds $Test1 = 0 The idea is that $Test1 is a flag that enables the motion sensor (when = 0) or disables it (when = 1). The override program sets it to 1 to disable the motion sensor from generating a switch On command. The last program looks for the switch getting turned off manually, and waits 15 seconds before re-enabling the motion sensor to turn the light on again.

Well the text says: Link WiFi-based Matter switches/plugins directly. Link Thread-based Matter switches/plugins through the Nest Hub (2nd Gen) or Apple HomePod. All through UD Mobile! I'm guessing that for the wifi based devices, the Zmatter dongle shouldn't be needed. For the thread based devices, it's not as clear. Thread is a wireless communications standard that requires a controller that acts as a router. It's like an extension to wifi, allowing a mesh network between devices, and using low power, which is important for battery powered devices. I'm guessing that the dongle will play a role here, though the mention of the Nest Hub or HomePod seems to imply that either one of those devices is also needed, or that it might be an alternative to the dongle. That should certainly all be cleared up soon enough for us. But your question is a good one: is the dongle necessary for Matter to work?

That's not an easy question to answer. It varies with how many walls you have what they're made of, etc. Ideally, any given devices would be able to "see" at least two other repeating devices, allowing the alternate paths to set up based on signal strength. That's what mesh is all about: getting redundancy through multiple alternate paths, instead of manually determining and configuring a signal path.

Well the version itself could always be fully capable, but could offer wizard style utilities for people who want to do simpler stuff like scheduled tasks or macros. A bit like the Alexa app from Amazon, which steps you through programming a routine. That could help someone get started. Then if they want to get in deeper, access the full programming screens. The mention of ipads in the case of Chris's friend Warren is another thing. I actually commented on this elsewhere, when it was mentioned that Apple Homekit support would be added. Apple users are more often than not non-geeks. They just want things to work without needing to go into technical stuff. This is where wizard like features might help with that.

Well, the more features and device support that gets added, the harder it is to create a dumbed down version. What do you leave out? I suppose you could have it just do macros and scheduled tasks...like a hub.

Any difference in range would probably be very minor. Zwave really depends on it's mesh network topology to get signals to devices that often aren't even in the same room.

Hopefully, they meant to say browser based...

Hah, naming devices for voice control has it's quirks. When you start to have many devices, finding good, unique names becomes a challenge.

My question is: how different will the look and feel of the new admin console be? For all it's quirks, we get used to them, so needing to relearn stuff is always a bit annoying. Will there be new console user features too? For example, it would be handy to be able to comment out program lines instead of always needing to delete them. New monitoring tools? Another thing that would be useful is a user log file that you can write to by program action. It would be handy to be able to do things like log the locking/ unlocking of doors, alarm activation, or for troubleshooting. It would be easier than needing to try to filter through hundreds of lines of the activity log. Just a few ideas.

That would be a unix version that eisy is running on. It's currently been 13.1 for most people.

I agree, and furthermore, the people developing the software shouldn't be the document writers! The usual problem is that they're too familiar with how it works, so they'll overlook stuff and can't always anticipate some of the questions that some of the users will ask themselves. I say that from experience. The Applied Digital Ocelot controller was a great little controller, but with gaping holes in it's documentation. The way the logic operates, order of precedence, etc wasn't properly explained. When they brought out the next major revision of C-Max (the equivalent of the admin console), they actually hired me, a user living in another country who had never set foot in their offices, to rewrite the manual for it. 150 pages later, it really made a difference, and they were very happy with it. It didn't happen by magic. I sent countless emails back and forth with the software developer, and we really figured out how everything worked, down to the size of the internal command output buffers, etc. and put words to it. That's the kind of thing that would need to happen with the eisy.

It often happens that you need to exit and log back into the admin console to see plugin related things, especially if you made a configuration change to the plugin.

Normally yes. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/Eisy:User_Guide Scroll down to zwave

The two connectors are for the zwave and zigbee antennas.

No, the 300 or 500 zwave board in the older ISY cannot be used with a eisy. The eisy uses either a Zooz 700 series dongle, or the Zmatter board, installed as a USB device.

Aren't Zigbee rf frequencies also different in Europe?

Both run exactly the same version of IoX, so it's not really an "upgrade" in that sense. You would gain a more recent version of the UDI product, with a longer time where it will still be supported. The Polisy could then become a backup just in case... It's your judgement call. I actually bought a used Polisy just to use it as an experimental platform, and to use for learning to write plugins. It's also a backup unit, though some things would still be a bit of a hassle, such as needing to buy any paid plugins again and transfer (if that's possible) the portal subscription.

It's actually a mPCIe card, not nvme (my mistake). There was a thread somewhere explaining that you needed to snap off the tail end of the card to fit it in the enclosure. I agree, just use it as a USB dongle on the Polisy.

Though it's actually the same card, so it could probably be taken out of the enclosure and installed inside the Polisy. But I see no advantage in doing that, other than aesthetics. The USB enclosure was sold separately, for someone moving from a Polisy to a eisy.

Yes, two antennas. One for zwave and one for zigbee