Guy Lavoie

So you want a group ungroup!

If you're more geeky, you could also keep that Polisy for testing. I've been doing that and it's been rewarding. Though you sound like you'd just rather have something that's less maintenance.

Open a ticket, An alternative fix would be for UDI to allow you to download an installation image to your own stick and reflash the eisy that way,

The ideal method is by integration (averaging over time). 4 or 5 samples spread out over several minutes, then take an average. Then discard oldest sample and take new one, keep averaging.

You could use math to reverse the value: Light level = 400 - sensor value

I'm starting to think it could be your PLM. Do you have a spare on hand?

Yes, that's annoying.

Welcome into the LR sect! Now that you know the secret handshake, let us know how your tests go.

@Javi Another thing I noticed, which may or may not matter: When I upgraded the dongle firmware, I enabled both the "Long Range" and "Fast Communications (Fast UART)" features. @johnstonf didn't enable "Fast UART" (see his screenshot above). Do you think that this could be related to the timing issues that he experienced?

If you haven't updated your dongle yet, then your existing devices will certainly be in mesh. Re-installing everything in LR when it's working fine in mesh might not be the best idea. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I think this will be a dilemma for everyone with an existing Z-Wave setup that's only beginning to get LR devices. The beauty of Z-Wave is that your network can use both LR or mesh, so it might be an idea to try LR if you've been having signal reliability problems with particular devices. If you do reconfigure some devices to LR, let us know how it goes.

You might want to clarify your question a bit more. If you click on the Programs menu (click on the three little lines at the top left of the screen) you'll see your program list, or folders. To open a folder, click on the ">" left of it's name. Click on a program name, which will show it on the right. Click on "Add" to add any lines in a section. re-ordering lines is done by clicking them and dragging them to where you want them. Click on "Save" after any changes.

Oh yes, higher up usually means better communications.

Today I got to do the test of putting it out near the pool. Same results as with the garage: it works, with the odd update delay every now and then. I do like that it does what's needed to get through, repeats or whatever. I also did a bit of Google searching on the subject of Zwave LR vs Yolink, and the general consensus seems to be that Yolink beats out LR on the reliable long range communications.

Are you able to ping it's IP address? Does it appear in your router's device table?

No, the intent of the new thread is to discuss the performance of LR (once you get it working). My first post will give you the idea)

Thing is, when you create a new spoken, the first thing you select is the node. It's the root pointer that everything else is related to. That's probably why it can't be changed.

Since you can log in by admin console, you could try redoing the upgrade from there.

Welcome to the LR camp! Now you can share your experiences in the LR thread I just started 🙂

Then I'd open a ticket.

Polisy upgrades can sometimes need a second reboot to finalize correctly. Try power cycling it.

Different node names usually means needing to redo things. Alexa or Google home can't know what old name = the new name.

Since Z-Wave Long Range functionality is still new, I thought I'd start this thread where we can share observations and notes, about how it's working (or not) for you. This is after you get it working and successfully add LR device(s). Here are my notes so far, including my initial observations first reported in the ZMatter dongle firmware update thread (and lets keep using that thread for "getting it to work". Testing of LR range: a bit disappointing. I don't know how this compares to a Yolink device, but going through concrete foundation walls seems to really limit range. I first tried my Shelly LR device where I usually plug in my pool pump, which is the corner of my property. Two inside walls, two concrete foundation walls (the house has been expanded) and through two walls of an aluminium above ground pool. Total distance, about 80 feet. No go. Next was in the standalone garage, which subtracts the two pool walls but adds steel cladding on the garage, About 60 feet. No go. Next was inside the basement workshop, which brings it down to just the two inside walls and one concrete foundation wall. That works. Now I'm testing this with my trusty test Polisy, which is near my computer in the basement, and the dongle is at desktop level. I suspect that moving the dongle higher up, ideally above ground, would help. I'll test that when I implement the LR function on my production eisy, it's dongle is almost at ground level. Update: I now deleted the Shelly device from my test Polisy and added it my production Eisy. The dongle antennas on that one are higher, just below the ground floor joists. I retested the garage location as described above. The higher dongle location eliminates the need for the signal to go through foundation walls. It now works, but there is sometimes a delay (up to a couple of seconds) before the on or off status updates in eisy-ui when I send a command. So LR is likely doing some kind of retry on communications. The same module responds immediately when it's closer to the dongle. I'll be retrying the pool location later. The pool location is interesting because I also have a Yolink hub near my ZMatter dongle, and a Yolink temperature sensor at the same pool location. It's been quite reliable though not perfect. This will allow me to compare how well the two long range technologies work.

I understand your frustration. Technology is great, when it works. Just a thought (and something to try): try turning off "Secure Inclusion" in the Z-Wave screen, and retry adding it again to see if that succeeds. You could also try changing the Communication Speed and Interview timeout settings.

Hah, I noticed that too. It seems to indicate the "On" percentage of my entire system! Not sure if it's really meant for some unspecified purpose. An idea of your home's energy consumption?

Have you tried a different LR device, if you have one on hand?