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I do indeed protect my 2413S PLM using a Leviton surge alarm outlet that has internal filters. Using one in my case does not impact the PLM Insteon signal at all. If you have two or more of these surge outlets on a branch circuit it will absolutely impact and filter out the Insteon signal. This is why its critical where you decide to place these surge alarm outlets in the home. In my case I had planned from the on set how to best use these sort of protection devices on dedicated circuits or where the use of these outlets were at the end of a branch circuit. To be fair some filtering aspects of these surge outlets could have changed over time. In my humble opinion that is pretty slim and the most probable issue you see is multi filtering that is showing this issue.

All of the Leviton surge outlets have some kind of filtering in place. The link you provided has two of them wired in parallel and thus the filtering aspect is cumulative. If you remove the other and replace it with a standard outlet you will more than likely see normal PLM COM's. I've been using these surge alarm outlets for more than ten years with Insteon with out issue. As noted above if there are multiple surge outlets like these on the same branch circuit it will indeed impact your Insteon network.

Michel, Excellent milestone and achievement, which I know has been a very long road to accomplish. Congratulations one and all . . .

Yes, if you perform the 4 tap *Beacon* test and if the respond-er in this case the On/Off module is off. When looking down at the LED it will be Green than Red. If the unit was on you would see Green, Green, Green, this assumes it was on the opposite electrical leg.

Hello Brian, I believe there is a little bit of confusion here so let me explain. All battery operated devices like the Mini Remote go to sleep and can not be sent any commands from any other Insteon device. Unless its placed in linking mode at the very bottom of the remote case. When you issue a command from the Admin Console it will do absolutely nothing to the mini remote because its asleep. Now, if you linked the mini remote to the On/Off module via the Admin Console. I can assure you if you watch the On/Off Module when you press one of the assigned (linked) buttons that its status of On/Off will be reflected in the Admin Console. You of course will also see and hear the module turn on / off. As to your question about the *Beacon* test, all this does is confirm if a device is on the same phase / opposite phase. This coupling / bridging is done via RF only. NOTE: Battery operated devices can not be controlled by the Admin Console. Battery operated devices such as MS, Trigger Linc, Door Sensor, Leak Sensor, Mini Remotes, are controllers only. They can not respond to a message like other power line devices.

Agreed, also before you hard reset any device listed in the ISY. You need to delete it from the system first than you can hard reset the devices one at a time.

Hello Brian, My apologies I was in the middle of editing my post when you replied. Please follow the steps above and come back when all of is done. Since you don't have very many devices the first thing you should do is hard reset all the devices. This not only is best practices but insures any ghost and test links from the factory are removed. You can do a manual hard reset outlined by the full users manual. Once all the devices are hard reset please add each device into the ISY Series Controller. Once they are properly added they should be listed in the device node tree on the left. Afterwards please go to the On/Off module and select it and you should see the *Options* in the middle pane. Verify the RF / Power Line is check marked if so good. Afterwards, please confirm proper coupling and if its good, move forward. If not you need to move one of the On/Off modules until it shows a green LED indicating opposite phase. A red LED indicates same electrical *Leg / phase*. Then, you can make the new mini remote a controller to the On/Off module.

Hello Brian, When you added the Plug in On/Off module selecting the device from the node tree on the left should provide you with an *Option* tab. Within this tab are the two features you should confirm are selected in the box. As you indicated before performing manual linking outside of the ISY will leave the system unaware of the state / status of the devices. You still need to complete the coupling / bridging test outlined in the 2413S PLM QSG. Please report back what the two On/Off modules do when the beacon test is initiated. NOTE: The following items need to be done and present to ensure all of this will operate as you expect. 1. Update the ISY Series Controller to the latest 4.3.6 firmware. Doing so will allow everyone to be at the same reference point. This also insures all Insteon devices are supported and any minor bugs resolved. Please follow this link for the latest update and complete all the requires steps: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/16258-release-436-rc3-is-now-available/ 2. The Firmware & UI under the *Help* About must be the same. 3. Only add your devices via the ISY Series Controller. 4. Perform all linking, programming, only via the ISY Series Controller. 5. Confirm proper coupling / bridging as outlined above.

Hello Brian, A couple things you will need to perform to ensure you have a reliable and consistent Insteon network. 1. Confirm proper coupling / bridging via the 4 tap beacon test outlined by the 2413S PLM starter guide. 2. Verify that the plug in On/Off module has both RF / Power line turned on via the ISY Admin Console.

The first thing I would suggest is you place these devices in a program lock out. This will prevent a local user who keeps the button pressed and held in place from forcing the button into linking mode. Programs have historically taken a few seconds longer to execute when compared to direct linked scenes. That is simply the reality of using such a design. Having said this I am sure others can chime in with their solutions.

Andrew, This happens to people all day long all across the world so don't sweat it. When I mean it happens all the time it happens to people in the IT Industry ALL THE TIME

Hello Michel, Are you saying this firmware will allow a person who has half Insteon & half Z-Wave to continue to operate upon a PLM failure? I believe this is what Mike had indicated but could be wrong.

Hello Mike, My understanding is if you had a stand alone Z-Wave environment there are several pieces of firmware that would allow you to use the ISY with out the PLM. Unfortunately, I don't believe UDI has implemented a hybrid firmware where it can detect a fault in the PLM and still allow those who have Z-Wave to still operate. Perhaps this sort of idea will be reviewed and worked on in the future . . .

I know the bulk of the limitations are imposed by Apple. But seriously, if there was ever an example of sticking it to the consumer here is one: How do I set up my HomeKit for access when I am not at not at home? Remote access is a great way to stay connected with your HomeKit enabled home. HomeKit requires that you have Apple TV (3rd generation or higher) to be able to access your HomeKit away from your home. So for those who believe they are going to get ultimate control of their home below the price of a ISY Series Controller. Being forced to have a Apple TV will cost you another $69.XX - 99.XX depending upon market or region for WAN access. Now I already own a Apple TV so no big deal for me. What about the poor schmuck who doesn't read or know the fine print? Now this part confuses the hell out of me given the whole point of this Apple Home Kit was to unify everyone under one umbrella?? I am sure there are more details about this either not known or not published but come on! I don't know where the failing is whether its on the part of Apple or Smartlabs. Can I use other manufacturers HomeKit products with Insteon+? While the Insteon+ app is capable of controlling other manufacturers HomeKit-enabled products, we cannot guarantee compatibility due to various device types. At the moment the only other HomeKit-enabled device is the Lutron Smart Bridge with HomeKit Technology. Insteon+ can recognize this device as well as their in wall dimmer and plug-in dimmer. You must first enable Siri control from within the Lutron app. What does this mean in English??? If the Hub Pro goes offline, can I still use Siri to send out commands? If the Hub Pro goes offline, you will still be able to state commands, however the Hub Pro will not be able to process them.

UDI has moved away from Weather Bug and now uses a new company for this HAM Weather. The 99 Series Controller does not support this new weather App due to API updates as seen here: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/15886-no-weather-data-from-climate-module/?hl=%2Bweather+%2Bmodule UDI still offers those who have a 99 a upgrade path though.

The easiest solution is to purchase a similar 120 VAC motion sensor and attach it to a Insteon micro relay module or similar Z-Wave. This would allow you to see and track the status of the bathroom light.

The two examples you noted are related to *Load Sense* which still communicates the status back to the ISY Series Controller. If someone adds in another controller outside of the ISY it won't be aware of those status changes. Lots of people have used two controllers in their homes including myself. In my case I used the now retired SmartLinc because it allowed basic control and a clean UI. Did it work? Yes, but as more complex conditions were added into my system via the ISY. The rogue devices operated via the SL caused programs to not execute as desired. In the big picture only trial and error can provide a person real world results. If what they find is acceptable then go ahead, if not then scale back until you find a happy medium. Its fair to say there isn't a hard and fast rule for right or wrong so much as be prepared to do some extra work and expect unintended results. If the WAF is high perhaps dicking around with what works isn't a good idea, no?

Besides replacing the single band PLM which really needs to go. I have not read anywhere where you have followed the coupling / bridging outlined by the full users manual for the Access Point / Range Extenders. It should be noted some of the newer dual band Insteon devices can turn on/off the Power line or RF portion. Please confirm the RF is enabled to these units and confirm bridging outlined by the manual. These features have been documented in the On/Off Relay Module, Dual Outlet.

Do tell . . .

No . . . You risk the situation where one controller may over write another controllers link. You will either need to decide which controller to use in your home. Or have the HUB II / HUB Pro control isolated Insteon devices not linked, managed, controlled, by the ISY Series Controller. I've been asked this question a few times and believe people need to decide one or the other.

I put this out there and if the future holds any possible inclusion of Apple Home Kit perhaps this company can assist UDI in speeding up the process: https://www.elgato.com/en/eve/eve-core

Your going to have to decide who is going to be the master in your home. Having two controllers with direct links to one another is a recipe for disaster waiting to happen. Several clients asked me how I would do it in their homes. I told them they would need to decide what aspects they want Siri to control and trade off any conditional logic the ISY may have in place. The easiest route I have pondered is enrolling all the Insteon devices into the HUB Pro and using the iOS devices to control various devices and see how they like it. Keeping in mind the ISY may very well not be able to see or tell a switch was turned on/off from the HUB Pro. In my mind this is not ideal when a large install is in place. For someone who has a small and modest install I guess you could take a roll of the dice and see if it works for you and others. I personally don't think its something a person should take lightly.

A program will not help when you need the dual mode option. Unless you mean something else?

Add to the frustration is the removal of the jumper pin. I am hoping UDI was able to determine what the software code was to allow those changes via a soft option.

If we are using the leak sensor monitoring program I would expect a 2 to show up. Ideals are peaceful - History is violent