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Thank you all for the insight as to the differences in each model. On a related note, is the T1900 just the same unit which includes the humidity sensor? Lastly, are the models which state 28XX are they Insteon compatible? Teken . . .

Hello Michel, Just to be clear: At this point in time I simply would like to see the ability to *see / monitor* the remote temperature of the Energy Monitor device(s) via the ISY controller. My intent is to poll / read this data from the unit and then have them linked to various ceiling / remote fans in the home. Just trying to circulate and move some air around the home as it is a stifling 40'C here in town. Teken . . .

Yes, I was hoping to be able to use the temperature reading from the Energy Monitors as it was indicated by SmartHomes sales page. They indicate UDI support sometime in 2012 but offer no further insight. Teken . . .

You know what would rock? You making a video and posting it on YouTube so we all could enjoy the accomplishment! Teken . . .

Hello Michel, Will the next firmware release be forth coming by months end? Also, I noted that the SmartHome page indicates that the Energy Monitor will be able to poll the temperature from the unit at some future time. Will that feature make it in this release as I have three of these units arriving by months end. Teken . . .

I don't care what anyone says. Both of you guys rock! Teken . . .

Any network IP camera can provide you the same access and capability to take snap shots of a moving object. This is native to all CCTV camera systems in the market. Please adjust your expectations accordingly if you require true video security. There is a reason they are under $200.00 as the optics and sensors are rather poor. Teken . . .

I did a preliminary test and hooked light to an inside lamp. No problem with recognition on ISY using LampLinc 2 pin Dim. The light responds instantly with ISY and does dim, but there is a flicker when dimming down. Once light is dimmed there is no flicker. I set it up with motion detector and it works as programmed. So far I am happy with this and will be putting in garage overhead light over the weekend. The LED appears to be the same or brighter than a 60 watt. Can you hear any buzzing noise?? If so can you describe how loud it is? Teken . . .

Greg, Have you confirmed that both legs of your electrical supply at the panel is properly coupled? This requires two dual band devices or a Access Point to complete this task. Also, have you confirmed all noise makers / suckers have been addressed? Teken . . .

Brian H, How long was this product in production for? Was there a period where this device actually worked fine? Teken . . .

That is definitely a great dream . . . Teken . . .

This valuable tid bit provided by Brian H is extremely important for those using their Appliance Linc devices to control mission critical loads. I personally have both versions in use. As some devices I want the *Fail Safe* while others I want the *Fail Secure* to be deployed during a power interruption. There are instances where you do not want something to be powered back up during a electrical disaster event. Case in point my washer is tied into a water detection system. If it detects the presence of water it will shut off the power to the washer. In the same breath, should there be a lightning storm and the power goes out. This added benefit of the Appliance Linc will provide another level of protection against an electrical surge entering the device. This is just one of three fail safes I have in place to ensure specific devices are well protected against power events. Teken . . .

Some follow up: I installed the latest firmware last week and all appears well. During the testing and validation process some of my problems regarding the switchlinc timer relays seem to be partially corrected. To bring everyone back up to speed as to the events leading to this problem(s). During the 2.X.X release all of my SLT would operate in terms of their 15 min. default timers. Pressing the switch multiple times would add an extra hour to the clock. During the 3.X.X release several improvements were introduced which allowed the end user to make global changes to the SLT's. These include the ability to change the 1 minute blink status, timer values, traffic LED status, etc. At this time all my SLT switches stopped functioning in terms of basic timers. All of the 15 min. timers stopped working. Power cycling, hard resetting, adding / removing, and performing Insteon Engine queries proved unhelpful. Using the ISY interface to bring up the option settings of each device would display corrupted *default* timers. They either displayed as 0, 15, 255 minutes. The SLT switches with 0 & 15 min. timer values did not work at all. They simply acted like standard switchlinc relays . . . The ones with 255 minutes would indeed turn the SLT switch at the 4.25 hour mark. Having stated all of the above behaviors: In this latest release, the default timers have since changed to 0, 15, 30 minutes, all with no user intervention. I have tested these switches endlessly to confirm what I see, and what is happening. Currently the one switch with the 0 minute value (Tia's Room) operates with a 15 min. timer, the 30 minute (Ceiling) lights does indeed turn off at the 30 minute mark and also blinks the lights accordingly. The SLT at the stairs is the only device which shows a 15 min. timer, and operates as it should. With that said I would like to ask the forum members if these switches require a complete power cycle to take on new settings?? I will be performing these tests in the next few days as I will have the home all to myself. It is apparent that these devices can in fact be impacted by outside forces, whether it be firmware or the possible changing of values, and then power cycling them. It comes down to confirming how this is done and if its something that can be repeated reliably. Teken . . .

Would you be so kind and also confirm that your 2476ST 15 timers still operate as expected, along with the 1, 2 hour timers. Also, would you also try to change the default 15 timer using the ISY's option function and change that value to say 20 minutes and let me know if it sticks. As I continue to experience a loss in functionality of these key features. Teken . . .

Yes, that will reset it. Also, I can just turn the KPL off and on using main off/on button, and that too will reset it. But flipping the leviton connected to the CFLs on and off a few times will still cause the KPL to go flaky again. Very annoying. I can tell you that in the long term those events will damage the KPL. It will either corrupt the firmware, or it will cause a surge to affect the electronics in that unit. No need to ask me how I know . . . Teken . . .

I wish I could say I had the same experience. The four SLT simply stopped working and no amount of hard reseting along with restore device does anything to them. Teken . . .

The state of the door may play a role when the *All Off* button is pressed via the ISY console. I have not reprogrammed my unit to confirm that it is not affected by this. The manual states the door should be in the open state. While forum members state that it should be in the closed state. So, please do keep this in mind when you program the I/O link. As you may find that the door is forced open when someone accidentally engages the *All Off* mode while you're off site and your alarm system trips with out a clear reason as to why. Teken . . .

Can you also confirm that the timer function is working on the switch itself? In other words, press the on paddle once. The switch should go on for 15 minutes then shut down. Please also state the method you're using to reset the insteon device for us all. I have used the stated hard reset method to no avail. Teken . . .

I think I may have narrowed down one possible reason. The two dual band KPL relays both allow the load button and the secondary buttons to have a on, off, fast on, fast off, etc options. While the older units do not . . . For reference the dual band KPL's are v.40 Using the Admin Console and turning on the both KPLs turns on the central fan & the entry light. Which are the loads in their respective rooms. There is a bug some where . . . Teken . . .

Both of these KPL's are relay style devices. One is a dual band relay, the other is a regular 6 button relay converted to a 8 button KPL. In all cases the KPL button's are secondary controllers to the the ceiling light in the kitchen. None of them control the local load directly, they are simply linked via the Insteon network. Specifically, the dual band KPL relay in the Master Bedroom is using the H button. The Entry KPL is the D button. So, again I don't understand why this KPL does not have these options as the others? Teken . . .

Hello LeeG, I don't believe we are on the same page here. Let me try to explain again the problem at hand. If you look at the first screen capture you will see three lines of text. The one high lighted in blue had the option to select on, off, fast on, fast off, etc The other KPL which is also in the same screen capture in the action pane does not have any of these options. My question is why does this Insteon device not have these on, off, fast on, fast off, etc options as the other KPL relay? All there is are LED dimming features?? Teken . . .

I follow what you're trying to say. But, if you look at my program above you will notice I am able to add in a secondary KPL's button with a on/off. I don't understand how one can be added, while another one won't? In the interim I have added the scene to the *then* and will see if the two KPL's do in fact turn on / off once the 15 minute timer expires. Teken . . .

Strange bug has been found. Because the SWT does not work anymore I decided to use the power of the ISY to band aid this device. I have two relay KPL's which control the ceiling light in the kitchen. The problem I had initially was that once the timer in the kitchen had expired the two KPL buttons would not turn off. Displaying an incorrect state to the user. So, I added the two KPL to the original program and what struck me odd is the following. You will notice that this KPL Relay v.36 does not have the options to turn the device on / off?? Only the options to make changes to the LED levels?? Could someone please investigate this issue . . . Teken . . .

Michel, after further usage, I am sad to say I am getting the exact same result as Teken. A newly installed SWT works fine in all regards, including all check boxes and acting as a timer, except of course for the timer value cannot be changed. It just stays at 15. It was based on this 'new' switch that I gave my prior positive results post. However, my OLD SWTs which I had originally installed about 1-2 months ago and which were originally installed with 3.1.7 ISY firmware are totally hosed in terms of being able to be used as a timer. My guess is that something in the 3.1.7 or later firmware made changes which killed the timer function of these switches. I will try to so some more factory resets to get them back, but so far this seems like permanent damage to the SWT timer function. I guess I will continue to use these as standard relay switches. The only hope I see is that if we are able to write enough to the timer function to kill it, then maybe the timer function can indeed be changed. So perhaps over time there is hope for being able to 1) restore our switches to Timers, and 2) be able to custom set the time. Thank you for confirming it on your end as well. What ever can be done would be greatly appreciated! The reason this is so important to me now is that I am receiving another couple of these SLT units in the near future. I can not have these brand new devices damaged or corrupted. I have very specific areas / zones in the home which I have made a conscious decision to have devices which will do something by default natively with out any HA controller, or user interaction(s). As always I thank the UDI team for their continued support, and never ending improvements in the ISY-99 platform . . . Teken . . .

Yep Hoopty is correct. I was thinking about Twitter when I replied. Teken . . .