Teken

I received my first batch of new toys during the 20% discount offered by SH last night. Upon linking the TriggerLinc using the auto option it failed. I have read many threads indicating that the user must use the drop down menu and select the correct device from the list. This does indeed allow the linking to complete. This also displays the ISY v0.0 which really bothers me. 1. What is the reason that the TriggerLinc can not be found using the auto discovery? 2. Please confirm that there is no loss in functionality of having to enroll said device using the manual drop down list. 3. Will this ever be corrected? As when I see devices with a v0.0 I always have that feeling that something isn't quite right. BTW: These units all have a Rev 1.3, production date of 3211 Teken . . .

ELA, As always, I thank you for your contributions and insight. This truly saddens me . . . Teken . . .

Hello LeeG, I created a thread about the chime / beep feature on the new dual band KPL. Would you consider perhaps this new KPL would utilize this unused feature?? Once I receive the new unit I will surely test it to confirm my thoughts. Teken . . .

Andy, Would you mind sharing your programs with me? I would like to compare how your set up is relative to mine.

You do realize the Energy Display units are battery powered, right? Sorry if I was not clear. I have 6 Insteon thermostats along with the RF adapters. My plan is to use these devices along with a 24 VAC transformer and place them through out the home. This is instead of the Energy Monitor.

All of this will be done one at a time and slowly integrated into the primary system once it has been validated as 100%. So, nothing wrong starting from humble beginnings! My first objective is to purchase several 24 VAC transformers and link them to the system and test whether or not these TSTATS will operate as I hope for. If they do produce the desired results I will roll them out in full deployment within the primary Insteon network. One of the things I will have to decide upon is where these box's will reside? I am not sure the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) will be there with respect to hanging up 6 white box's all over the house . . . This is why I considered the Energy Display instead as they simply look like a small white clock. Another problem going this route is that I will need to place each device with in a 120 AC outlet which will reduce my options for placement along with hiding the ugly wire coming down the wall . . . I dunno . . . Will have to sleep on this and consider my options. Teken . . .

Hello Andyf0, My intent and use for the remote sensors may be a lot different than yours. My primary goal is to have six of these Venstar RF enabled devices in place. They will be placed in key areas of the home to determine the local temperature / humidity. Once the remote thermostat detects a defined temperature / humidity. What ever linked Insteon device I have programmed will turn on to accomplish their stated goal. Whether it be to move air flow from one zone to another either with fans, or ceiling fans, exhaust the immediate air through the over head range, vent the entire home using the central exhaust, or lastly to turn on the central AC in the home to meet the stated temperature / humidity. All of this will be linked to the window shades to produce the desired temperatures. I already have six of these thermostats along with the RF adapter so the only thing I need to purchase is the 24 VAC transformer. Ideally, I would have preferred using the Energy Display but that would have been at a added costs. These six TSTATS along with the RF adapters were pretty much free so I don't have a lot invested so far in this test. Insight Teken . . .

Can multiple T1800 with the Insteon RF adapter be deployed as remote sensors in a ISY set up? If so what are some of the basics that need to be followed to make these devices work in a stand alone mode? I would think simply wiring in a 24 VAC transformer to power the T1800, along with enrolling the Insteon RF adapter into the ISY-99 would be all that is required? Any feed back and insight with respect to this task is greatly appreciated! Teken . . .

I have five T1800, along with the Insteon RF adapters. If, this is the case please do let me know and I shall set them up and test this method. The only out of pocket costs would be for the 24 VAC transformers. Teken . . .

What I'd really like to see is energy (pardon the pun) spent on support for a (wired) one-wire temperature and humidity sensor solution. I think temp/hum (and thermostats, actually) should be kept off the insteon network, especially if each has to be polled every minute, times # of sensors (& stats). Teken, I currently use a HomeSeer and one-wire based sol'n (that I would like to move to ISY but can't right now) for what you'd like to do. I routinely turn on house ventilation to balance out the temperature in the house. However, unless one lives in a particularly dry region, the biggest bang for the buck IMO is with respect to managing humidity in the house. I'm able to turn on the bathroom fans when the humidity hits ~12% higher in one compared with the humidity on the main floor (far from bathrooms, kitchen, laundry room) then off again when it comes back down. In winter I turn on/off the furnace humidifier and HRV based on indoor humidity levels and the outside temperature. In summer I also control the HRV around temp and humidity outside, turn on/off a dehumidifier, and lower the AC setpoint when the humidity in the house is high but the temp is not quite high enough to otherwise trigger the AC. I have to say the automagic bathroom fans have been the most visible automation tricks in my bag next to motion/scene lighting. While people don't see much of the stuff going on, I consider humidity control in general to have provided the highest ROI since, unlike much of the other automation stuff (that I like too), it contributes directly to the house's and my family's health. I 100% agree with all that is stated. It is the elusive (remote) temperature / humidity which I am trying to master and have the ability to monitor and control that eludes me. Any insight as to the probe you're using would be greatly appreciated there Sir! Teken . . .

If adding the temperature reading will achieve the above goal for sure! So if I could ask you to clarify one portion for me please. Can I only have a Energy Display on hand and have it work with my ISY system? Or will I have to purchase a iMeter, along with a Energy Display? As always your continued support, and guidance is greatly appreciated Sir! Teken . . .

You're right the standard gas generator does not produce a pure sine wave. As you clearly noted the power was rather dirty and can not be relied upon to power up delicate electronics. Doing so will damage said electronics. As you also clearly indicated Honda is one of the premier vendors producing pure sine wave generators, at a premium. I have opted to install a 22 kwh whole house NG generator which does produce a pure sine wave to enable me to use all manner of devices with out the fear of potential dirty power damaging my hardware and electronics. Also, back feeding with out the proper use of a transfer switch whether it be a mechanical one at the service entrance is not only dangerous, but illegal in many states. The biggest factor is the potential threat to a lines men on the other end not aware the line he is working on is indeed energized. Teken . . .

I know the UDI team is extremely busy with the on going upgrades you guys have been pursuing. Which by the way is greatly appreciated by me and tens of thousands of loyal customers! If there is ever some sort of down time I would humbly ask that another on line session be given. Or as the OP has asked that a few simple You Tube tutorials be crafted to show new users the basics as to how to use this powerful tool. I would like to vote for Lee G, or any of the power users to make a few videos for future reference materials. I know personally that having such a reference material would have eased the learning curve for me and the others. Just some thoughts . . . Teken . . .

I haven't tried actually as other tasks have taken up my time. I plan on doing this later this week to see how it performs. If this beep feature (chime) is being generated by continuous signal invoked by the HL2, I will not pursue this solution any further. As I do not want to hinder my system with extra traffic for no good reason. Now, if the HL2 does simply invoke a one time command and the KPL does indeed continue to beep for what ever duration I have indicated via the HL2. Then, maybe this might be a solution I am willing to entertain. The only draw back is that I will need to keep the server running which the HL2 is installed on! Which would negate my primary goal of limiting my power consumption foot print . . . I would prefer to see this task performed by the ISY as its power consumption is extremely small. I will see what arrives next week, install it, and then do some basic testing to see what happens and report back. More than likely you and the others are correct that the chime is simply a beep via a software solution from the HL2, which sends continuous signals to the KPL to beep / chime. Lets be positive and hope you all are wrong!

This is how I would like to use the Energy display device so please do bare with me. I would like to have several of these Energy Displays placed in key areas of the home. Once the temperature in that room / zone reached a specified temperature. The ISY would instruct various relay appliance lincs to turn on and begin venting, blowing, or exhausting the air in that room until such time the temperature came back up / down specified by me via a ISY program. Can the Energy Display be used in this fashion?? I have several goals which are currently being tested, and validated at the moment. My primary plan is to install the Insteon thermostat. Once this device is in place it will serve as the secondary HVAC solution. What I intend to do is the following based on the season (summer / winter): If the house reaches a specified temperature several stages of the HA will be invoked to maintain the set temperature. Stage 1: Will instruct any zoned fans / ceiling fans to turn on to circulate the ambient air in that room / zone. If the temperature can not be stabilized. Stage 2: This will turn on the over head range to exhaust the immediate air from the kitchen which is in the center of the home. Stage 3: If again, the set temperature can still not be achieved. This will turn on the central exhaust in the home. Stage 4: This will turn on the central AC system to complete the final task of meeting the set temperature based on time, schedule, etc. All of this will be tied into the window blinds which will open / close to achieve the set temperature via the free solar heat generated by Mother Nature! So, if I simply place the Energy Monitor(s) used as remote thermostats will these devices be able to perform the above tasks?? In plain terms: Can I count on being able to poll, then based on the readings of the remote TSTAT be able to craft a ISY program to achieve this end goal?? Your thoughts . . . Teken . . .

Is it possible in future ISY firmware releases to make said beeper sound out for a specified time period as it done in the HL2 software? Would that be something the UDI team could look into and consider doing? I know a program can be written to make it so but understand that the extra traffic could be a problem. Your thoughts . . . Teken . . .

I thought it would be a good idea to ask the UDI team as to how this new feature is enabled and deployed in a ISY / Insteon environment. In this SH thread I indicate what the full user manual states. http://www.smarthome.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9238 Given UDI is one of the primary vendors for support I believe their insight would be most helpful. Teken . . .

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Brian H, Could you please confirm for me if the SynchroLinc can be enrolled with both Controller / Responders? I dropped the hammer finally and purchased one of these along with quite a few random dual band devices to complete the next phase of my system. Also, could you provide some feed back about how you're using the SynchroLink and any pro's and con's you have encountered since deploying it in your Insteon network system. Lastly, I don't recall if you purchased the iMeter. If so did you ever do a review of the device if you did could you link me to the article. As always I thank you for your insight and feed-back. Teken . . .

Brian H, Your timing is impeccable !! Thank you for providing this link as I will need it in the future. Teken . . .

3.1.13 installed with out any problems. Everything thus far tests correctly and is 100% functional. Once again thank you for correcting the weather bug module with the slider! Teken . . .

Hi Teken, This is fixed in the next build. The line separation has been removed and it is also now scrollable. Chris, As always, I thank you and the UDI team for your continued support and guidance . . .

Could I request that the weather modules information (line separation) be restored to the previous way? The new changes have made the whole format of text so long that two of the bottom lines can't be read. Teken . . .

As always I thank you for insight and consideration . . . Teken

The Touchlinc will be discontinued? Wow, that was a very short life cycle for that product!