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LMAO Love It . . .

Yeah $80.00 is a little pricey but here is a more reasonable sail switches on the mighty EBAY: http://www.ebay.com/bhp/sail-switch

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Yes, its right up there with Nest! Nobody has to ask how that X-MAS OTA update turned out for tens of thousands of users in the dead of winter either . . . Ha . . .

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification . . .

Stu, Are you splitting hairs here or are you being extremely precise? Speaking as a lay person anything outside of a device invoked by Amazon Echo would reside in the program(s) tab. Within the program tab resides the IF, THEN, ELSE, clauses which are part of a crafted program the user has created. So again my question is are you splitting hairs or being extremely precise in you reply? As most of us could agree the conditions reside in the programs tab / program tree / program folders.

Larry, Come on now that is a little harsh LOL! My take is that his company is helping push the whole industry to where at some point it will be reasonable to purchase like any other appliance. Is there more room to improve upon the cost per KWH, yes. Is there more clarification as to the entire out of pocket costs that is required to get a person up and running, yes. What isn't false is his company will continue to lead the charge in making this specific industry from the rich and famous to at some point doable for all. No, a Tesla vehicle is not something a average person can just purchase like a Ford Escort. But it has to start from somewhere and I am happy to say it has started. Anyone who has been in the Solar PV industry long enough knows having huge banks of flooded cells weighing hundreds of pounds vented and sitting on the floor isn't something people like to show off. Tesla has also removed the one model which was supposed to be used as a back up system and has made them a daily use 10 KWH unit. All of this is to be expected as you noted the amount of usable power doesn't pencil out at the lower scale. Again, this is leaps and bound more attainable then the fuel cell technology being used by some of the largest companies in the world from Bloom Energy. I've been watching this company since day one and on the face of it it has legs. The simple reality is the company has no intention of ever making their wares where it can be used in a home at a price point where it makes sense. The CEO comes across as very sincere but the reality is his Bloom Box will never see the light of day in a real home. Its not that he couldn't make it cheap its the simple fact his company has turned their backs on the general public and decided to follow the mantra of *Profit before people*. This is very much like Apple and other companies who truly believe they offer so much value to the masses. Elon Musk is not your typical guy and that is being understated for sure. Not a single soul on this planet has ever created two multi billion dollars companies and succeeded, none. His company is also the first ever to land a single stage use rocket back to the planet after going to space and delivering its pay load. Does his company have lots to do in terms of offering a smart battery pack, yes. But its safe to say he isn't offering vaporware like so many other con men before him. Make no mistake hes there to make money just like every other company out there. But, I would give him my hard earned cash before I did the same to the Bloom Box!

I agree to a certain extent for sure with respect to the smart grid. Its people like Elon Musk at Tesla with his power wall and enterprise level power supplies that will push the market further ahead. Nobody has ever open up and given away their battery patents like he has, ever. His mindset of using all the homes around the world to build out a smart grid and allow load shedding / sharing is not new. But he is the only one who has put his ideas and thoughts into motion. Everyone I've been watching have published endless vaporware . . . Every year I read about a new battery chemistry that is supposed to offer fast charging, endless DOD, and long service life. More than 25 years have past and not one of these so called break through's have come to market. There is lots of hype in the nano / graphine camp. Again, lots of in the lab trials but none of them have come to market and really at that point its vaporware to the masses. Eaton has a smart load center I have been saving up for quite awhile which does away with lots of home automation protocols like X-10, Insteon, Z-Wave, ZigBee, WiFi, BLE. Nothing beats native at the load center control of your loads and power management. The only problem with them is extremely high costs, single source vendor, and potential of leaving in the dark if they go poof! The smart breakers aren't something you can purchase at Home Depot if you need one either. With respect to my comments about energy management / energy monitoring being ten years out. This is more about where the cost, features, public API, and integration with other 3rd party vendors is at. There are countless vendors and devices all over the spectrum which has been used for eons in the industry trades. Again, the costs and integration to the average home isn't there yet. A perfect example last year was a friend who has been following my Home Automation journey over the years. He asked me to help him plan, build, and configure his brand new multi million dollar home. I told him there were dozens of fine companies from different spectrum's that could do what he needed. With his financial resources he could have installed any of the random items I mentioned here. The real kicker: He didn't install any of the $2500 - 12000.00 systems from the likes of HOBO, Eaton, Schneider, etc Why? Closed system - No upgrade path - Zero development - Lacking features - No API - etc. Normally industry appliances are purpose built to do one task well. Surprisingly, in the energy monitoring / energy management its like any old school engineer. They have no imagination . . . The reverse is true no with the wave of *New School* where every one of them have their head in the sand and truly believe the only solution is the cloud! The world needs more guys like Elon Musk who is a new and old school engineer with a vision of tomorrow and open mind of how to do things. Sadly, I can't place all the blame on the engineers at Eaton, Schneider etc. The bulk of the blame goes to senior management and the sales teams. As they have no freaking clue about the world around them and how given a little will gain them a lot. As an aside many years ago one of the companies I worked for had a six million dollar project and one of the listed vendors in this thread had no intention of helping us create more and better charting / graphing. Never mind more alert tracking and notifications etc. When all of the dust settled - I pulled out our 6 million dollar project with the vendor. Its safe to say there were lots of pissed off people and lost jobs in their company. LOL . . . Bottom line work with your customers and keep a open mind!

It should be noted 99% of the time all linking and scene creations should be done with the 994 Series Controller. But there are use cases and times where a person may want to have something happen outside of the controllers knowledge. This can be due to needing different logic which the controller may not support or is very hard to craft to meet the same. This is also used where there is some kind of hardware / controller issue. Ex. When a new Insteon device is not fully supported by the controller or where firmware has disabled previous behaviors of operations.

No sooner when you replied I went and checked again. And the changes you indicated are there now! The application did however shut down and restart and have to gather this is why I never saw the updates you guys indicated last night. Its probably also why the system refused to turn on anything even after a hard reboot of the 994 Series Controller and the Echo. I really wish Amazon would publish a service maintenance calendar so people could be made aware these back end changes were being deployed. It would save them huge resources in trouble tickets and responding to the same questions over and over again. I'm going to suggest this idea unless they already have it somewhere I haven't noticed before. Thanks for the clarification . . .

Jon, There are quite a few energy monitors out in the market today. There are very few energy management integrated systems though. There are even less energy management devices that integrate tightly with home automation like the 994 Series Controller. Even worse, the industry has been plagued with lots of toy like energy monitors that simply use mythical unicorn software to detect energy signature readings! Whether it be Smappee, Neurio, Sense, etc. All of these devices are toys which offer a really slick front end but offer very limited long term data aggregation, charting, graphing, and God forbid a open API to the public. Never mind the incessant need to be completely cloud dependent on its operations. Brultech has lead the charge in this area for more than 20 years and continues to do so now. I haven't met or worked with another company besides UDI that has been so open to ideas and implementing the very same. The sad reality is energy monitoring / energy management is not sexy. Its not something the average person really thinks about nor is it something a person sees much value in. The bulk of us are just plain consumers and never pay much thought about how to conserve or to at least reduce our impact on the Earth or the resources at hand. As much as I despise fad products like the above: Smappee, Neurio, Sense. The other side of the coin is even worse and that is from vendors like Aeotec HEM, TED, HOBO, Savant, Schneider Electric, Eaton, etc. As some of the products even though they offer much more in terms of real connectivity are still toy like. While others like Eaton, HOBO, Schneider, have zero interest in integrating with HA or working with the general public to develop their wares. Trust me I know because I spent the last 20 years working with some of these companies in huge multi million dollar projects. None of them were willing to use the massive resources they have at hand to even come close to what Brultech offers, none. I always find it sadly funny and ironic that huge companies with more resources than God. Never see the gold mine and potential for their wares that could be easily be in every home in the free world. But, decide its best to cater to the random industries instead?!?!? Energy Management in the Enterprise area has never really taken off either. Nor has it really been developed to the point where its easy to view the data in meaningful ways. My personal view is Energy Management / Energy Monitoring is still another 10 years out. UDI has spent very little time or resources to update the Energy Module where it has value or practical uses for the average person. When I see the countless Z-Wave people all scrambling to buy, install, and use the same energy data. Does it not say there is a consumer need?? I've pretty much given up trying to push UDI in the development of the energy module as they indicate zero demand for said product. My energy and resources have been focused in helping Brultech shore up and fill in the massive holes in the former. Its safe to say in the next 18 months people will see some incredible updates from the Brultech team. Working with such a fantastic company during the last five years has been quite the honor and pleasure. At last count they had incorporated no less than 200 feature requests from me and other like minded folks. I find many people tend to follow - I prefer to lead!

I suppose for me if she made the tone from the onset things would probably be just fine for me too. But what bothers me is the tone is not very distinct or very loud to confirm said task was done or ack'd. Like many I believe this issue is so simple - All they have to do is add the option to toggle the two choices for those wanting one or the other. Also, I am unsure what others are talking about with the smart application having changed? I don't see anything different and none of the names or positions have changed? As Scott asked before is there a pending iOS update I haven't seen or received?

Yeah I should have written out my thoughts a little better above as it wasn't so clear. Using the HEM device he could simply attach the two clip on CT's to the dryer breakers and be done with it. My comments about installing the CT to the two primary feeds of the main panel was to let him understand more programming logic would be needed (IF) he decided to go the other route. Depending upon his environment and lifestyle the program logic could take a few revisions to get it right. Even though I monitor every circuit in my home there was a little trial and error on my part too. As my needs were much more demanding in that I wanted to know every facet of the energy readings so related HA or tasks could be invoked or done. Back in the day having a GDO was for many a novelty in their lives. I thought being able to know the status of all of electronics and appliances was going to be the very same. Fast forward many years later I can't even think about not having this core feature in my home. As most folks know the week ends are normally super busy with errands and chores. Having the ability to notify, monitor, and track every facet of the home has made my family so efficient its just scary. When you have ten loads of laundry to do and limited time knowing when its time to go down stairs to put in the next load is a huge multi tasking time saver!

May I ask what part of her saying OK bothers you two? Is it just annoying to hear her say that word all the time?

I had this huge aszz reply and the forum wiped it out !!! I give up . . .

The CT's simply *Clamp* on to the two primary feeds no worries about being electrocuted. Assuming the device people are referring to is the HEM device. You're going to have to figure out how to filter the dryer wattage value from the rest of the homes electrical usage if you place them on the primary feeds. If not and you place it on the dryer you're golden and simply need to craft a program to monitor the on-off wattage value(s).

I don't believe it Amazon has restored the *OK* back to Alexa!

Several other methods are to monitor the LED, Beeper, or Temperature. Depending upon model of dryer one of the three methods would operate just fine. The use of a photo diode is cheap and effective (IF) you have the electronics back ground to wire in the PCB. The beeper is a hit or miss affair with some dryers so only trial and error will let you know. Measuring the output temperature is none invasive and works reasonably well so long as your program is measuring the temperature threshold. I measure the current & voltage to let me know with 100% accuracy of the breaker turned on, door open, turned on, running, and when the cycle is complete. I measure the outlet temperature for lint build up and fire control.

Thank you for the update to the 2413S PLM hardware & production date. I am quite taken aback in reading your PLM has died so quickly. If it proves to be the case this will have been the 3rd hardware revision 2.2 produced in 46th week of 2015 that has failed on this forum. Please do follow up with the forum members once you receive your replacement unit and indicate what the white sticker / ISY indicates when it comes in.

On the back of the new 2413S PLM there should be something to the effect of Rev 2.1 / 2.2 with a production date indicated in the following way: 1546 / 4615. Can you provide the information for both units you have on hand. The 46 is the production week and the 15 is the year: Produced 46th week of 2015. Also please delete the image that has the UUID for your controller as this is sensitive information no one needs to know.

Given you have limited time at the moment before you leave for vacation. It really comes down to risk vs reward in knowing its done right the first time. Since you only have 12 devices the best approach is to restore from a good known back up. Once that is loaded you can initiate the PLM Restore, then a Device Restore. Can you please indicate what the white sticker says for the 2413S PLM for us?

I would probably upgrade to 4.4.5 RC firmware and see if it adds fine after that. Please follow all of the required steps as outlined in the 4.4.5 RC thread.

On Topic: Are you asking for all of the spoken phrases the skill will accept?

One is probably a retail sku number . . .

If its lost how do you know what the words are?!?! LOL