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Yeah I should have written out my thoughts a little better above as it wasn't so clear. Using the HEM device he could simply attach the two clip on CT's to the dryer breakers and be done with it. My comments about installing the CT to the two primary feeds of the main panel was to let him understand more programming logic would be needed (IF) he decided to go the other route. Depending upon his environment and lifestyle the program logic could take a few revisions to get it right. Even though I monitor every circuit in my home there was a little trial and error on my part too. As my needs were much more demanding in that I wanted to know every facet of the energy readings so related HA or tasks could be invoked or done. Back in the day having a GDO was for many a novelty in their lives. I thought being able to know the status of all of electronics and appliances was going to be the very same. Fast forward many years later I can't even think about not having this core feature in my home. As most folks know the week ends are normally super busy with errands and chores. Having the ability to notify, monitor, and track every facet of the home has made my family so efficient its just scary. When you have ten loads of laundry to do and limited time knowing when its time to go down stairs to put in the next load is a huge multi tasking time saver!

May I ask what part of her saying OK bothers you two? Is it just annoying to hear her say that word all the time?

I had this huge aszz reply and the forum wiped it out !!! I give up . . .

The CT's simply *Clamp* on to the two primary feeds no worries about being electrocuted. Assuming the device people are referring to is the HEM device. You're going to have to figure out how to filter the dryer wattage value from the rest of the homes electrical usage if you place them on the primary feeds. If not and you place it on the dryer you're golden and simply need to craft a program to monitor the on-off wattage value(s).

I don't believe it Amazon has restored the *OK* back to Alexa!

Several other methods are to monitor the LED, Beeper, or Temperature. Depending upon model of dryer one of the three methods would operate just fine. The use of a photo diode is cheap and effective (IF) you have the electronics back ground to wire in the PCB. The beeper is a hit or miss affair with some dryers so only trial and error will let you know. Measuring the output temperature is none invasive and works reasonably well so long as your program is measuring the temperature threshold. I measure the current & voltage to let me know with 100% accuracy of the breaker turned on, door open, turned on, running, and when the cycle is complete. I measure the outlet temperature for lint build up and fire control.

Thank you for the update to the 2413S PLM hardware & production date. I am quite taken aback in reading your PLM has died so quickly. If it proves to be the case this will have been the 3rd hardware revision 2.2 produced in 46th week of 2015 that has failed on this forum. Please do follow up with the forum members once you receive your replacement unit and indicate what the white sticker / ISY indicates when it comes in.

On the back of the new 2413S PLM there should be something to the effect of Rev 2.1 / 2.2 with a production date indicated in the following way: 1546 / 4615. Can you provide the information for both units you have on hand. The 46 is the production week and the 15 is the year: Produced 46th week of 2015. Also please delete the image that has the UUID for your controller as this is sensitive information no one needs to know.

Given you have limited time at the moment before you leave for vacation. It really comes down to risk vs reward in knowing its done right the first time. Since you only have 12 devices the best approach is to restore from a good known back up. Once that is loaded you can initiate the PLM Restore, then a Device Restore. Can you please indicate what the white sticker says for the 2413S PLM for us?

I would probably upgrade to 4.4.5 RC firmware and see if it adds fine after that. Please follow all of the required steps as outlined in the 4.4.5 RC thread.

On Topic: Are you asking for all of the spoken phrases the skill will accept?

One is probably a retail sku number . . .

If its lost how do you know what the words are?!?! LOL

That's correct just purchase the correct reed switch from eBay and move forward. ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.

True, but this assumes a simple and repetitive *defined* time interval is required. I know we are a long way off from complete voice control but that would be really nice to see one day. Jon is also correct if Amazon some how allowed Alexa to use the timer function built in to interact with the 994 Series Controller this would be a huge step in accomplishing the OP's request in the (Big Picture). I envision at least two variables where 0 represents off - 1 indicates on etc. So when a person tells Alexa to set a XX timer for what ever device Alexa herself would be the one doing the counting. Once that time had arrived she would then set the variable to what ever condition of either on / off. This simple method would offer huge possibilities to HA . . . But like I said (IF) and when she can actually be pro active and call out conditions with out being prompted to do so this would be very close to the holy grail. Now, perhaps one day someone will be able to tie into the CPU power of the X Box / PS4 as many others have to complete extremely process intensive tasks. This in my mind would be another method to offset high CPU computational tasks from a low powered device like the 994 Series Controller. I am surprised this hasn't been considered before since many educational, military, and Enterprise industries have done the very same.

I can't speak to what Mario Lanning means with 100% confidence but as I understand it. In the big picture the whole automation system should be able to take commands and invoke those requests. What all of us are doing is defining elements and different variables that suite those needs. One is predefined in the system and that's fine in the small picture. In the big picture a person shouldn't have to do any of these things and it should just do as requested. This is along the same lines of the *system* being able to proactively tell you something with out being prompted to do so. Its safe to say these features we have all enjoyed in Iron Man (Jarvis) is a long way from becoming reality for the Average Joe. I can only imagine IBM's Big Blue or any of the super computers out there (IF) the Average Joe could have such processing power where the Home Automation industry would be. Considering how long HA has been going on from the X-10 days . . . It really doesn't seem that there are huge leaps and bounds in the industry besides higher reliability, access, and methods sense random things. Personally, voice control is very much in the X-10 infancy stage . . . Hope to see it become AMI, HAL, Jarvis, one day.

Hello Kck, First thank you so very much for taking the time and effort in making it even more streamlined and easy to set up and load. Second, this is going to be a fantastic little project for me in the near future. Yes, you are making me spend money I don't have! Ha . . . I will need to read over your instructions in the next few weeks and decide when the touch screen should be purchased. Any additional information about the two screens along with caveats would be nice to know. I am really looking forward to getting this off the ground once other competing Alpha / Beta projects are hammered out and underway. Once again I thank you so very much for taking the time to share this with me and the group. Rock On . . .

Seriously having a flash back and might decide to dig out that copy of that movie on DVD.

I know you indicated a need for local command and control but wanted to offer this other alternative in case it peaked your interest: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/17271-hub-ii-isy-echo-integration/

Answers in line . . . This thread will offer more insight and details about how others did the very same: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/17271-hub-ii-isy-echo-integration/

I agree but this only high lights the fact some devices in the home should not be placed on voice control. There are people who truly believe its still OK to place the smart lock on voice control. Trust me I get the novelty in all of this but people really need to dial back and take pause. I've been talking about Terminators SkyNet for what seems like forever and most people blow it off as paranoid and unrealistic. What is unrealistic, foolish, and 50 kinds of stupid is to think automating every aspect of your life won't have a negative consequence to the end user(s). 20 years ago there was something in the order of less than 1% of the hackers in the world that even spent anytime to bother to hack a Mac OS. Why? Because it was irrelevant in the global market place and had zero impact to obtaining data, control, or otherwise. Fast forward to 2016 the Mac OS is right up there with Windows who has been the poster child of being hacked by the masses. Not a soul would have thought a cell phone would ever be a means to access and obtain critical data, location, voice, photo, ever. Again, in the current period we all live in a cell phone is no longer a dumb analog device. It is a full on computer system that includes so many sensor arrays that it can be turned into any dreamed up tool. With respect to the so called *Wake* word you can mark my words at some point someone will figure out how to hack the Amazon Echo where the hacker can turn on the microphone and listen in to your home / surrounding. Anyone who doesn't believe this can be done hasn't been around systems long enough to understand. The only sure way to disable a such an issue is that the Echo has a physical switch that disconnects the microphone which it doesn't. Anything electronic can be turned on/off and since software is so tightly integrated with the electronics at this point they are literally one in the same. I can't speak to how others have protected themselves from such a obvious attack. But speaking for myself only I have my system physically disconnected during secure lock down or away modes. Meaning nothing can restore power to the Amazon Echo until I physically enable the power. Anyone who believes the little electronic button on the top does the same thing is simply dreaming.

I believe it comes down to having choices built into the smart application. Anyone who prefers the tones vs the voice should be able to select which ever suites their needs. Everybody's voice counts pro or con so please do vote . . .

It was in Washington D.C. so inside sources can't be offered to protect the innocent . . . Don't want another Edward Snowden debacle! Ha . . .

This is one of the originator threads with most of the details: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/14525-amazon-echo-and-isy/?st=0 I believe at post #19 other important elements are provided - also please look up a great contributor Barry Gordon in the forums.

Can't wait to read the news article: