vbPhil

Just getting started with HA and Universal Devices ISY/IoX Integration. I'm at HA core-2023.2.1. Would like to understand why this Appliance Link and other Insteon devices have all these entities. Are these entities based on an actual attribute coming from IoX or is the Integration creating them based on some other reasoning? Trying to figure out if I could be building something that uses them or just ignore (disable) the unused? Basically, in IoX I'm used to using the status of a device and turning them on/off or dimmed/brightened. For this older 2456S3 Appliance Link controlling an air purifier in the house I've got these entities, switch.air_purifier number.air_purifier_backlight button.air_purifier_beep sensor.air_purifier_device_communication_errors switch.air_purifier_enabled button.air_purifier_query

@Chris Jahn 5.5.5 didn't bring with it the fix for temperature readings in Celsius instead of Fahrenheit. Is that still on your bug list to fix? My affected devices are; ZSE40 ZooZ 4-in-1 Sensor and Aeotec ZW078 Heavy Duty Switch.

Upgraded Polisy IoX from 5.5.4 to 5.5.5 Upgrade went smoothly but, I get 5 beeps plus 1 when it finishes. These reported issues still remain. ZSE40 ZooZ 4-in-1 Sensor Will not complete interview. tried Update with Interview many times and exclude/include. ZooZ states to press z-wave button every 15 seconds for 2 minutes during include, this still didn't help. Temperature will not display in Fahrenheit only Celsius regardless of configuration parameter. Aeotec ZW078 Heavy Duty Switch Temperature is shown in Celsius. I contacted Aeotec and they say that Temperature is not a configurable parameter. For the US it defaults to Fahrenheit. These reported issues are working now. ZSE42 ZooZ Water Leak Sensor Can Query or Set Configuration Parameters. I believe the ZSE42 is now a done deal.

I must answer my own statement here. That is a good use for a scene because it links the responder and controller in the devices so that the link works even without the IoX controller.

I couldn't get that to work with this configuration. The first exclude worked but not the hidden by.

Okay, I had that understanding. I thought maybe you were referring to another way to link a responder and controller without creating a scene. It's the IoX scene node that HA is picking up and not behaving as it does in IoX. Thanks for the other info. Seems like allot of overhead to add in IoX. One thing I found with hiding an HA entity is that it may still shows up in the custom:auto-entities card but a disable worked to keep it off the card.

I'm not understanding how to store a link natively in a device. I must have missed that in my upbringing. For IoX scenes that I don't need in HA I'm disabling the entity for that. In doing so I've realized I have many scenes set up to control one responder (a lamp dimmer module) and a couple mini key panel switches as controllers. Perhaps that's not a really good use of a scene, having only one responder, and I could use a program instead maybe making HA more compatible. In your opinion does that sound reasonable or am I approaching this incorrectly?

@shbatm Here's some more if you still need them. I'm on Polisy with ZMatter internal module core.zip node_def_zwave.xml

@Geddy All true. You can't un-switch something once it switched, but you can change status true to false.

We can beat a dead horse, but I found another example to bear in mind. You're all familiar with the "The ISY-994i Home Automation Cookbook", link is below. They have an example on Stopping a Program with a Wait statement. Page 159. It goes like this: (I substituted a device instead of using a scene.) The way they explain it, This is not the behavior I see with IoX on Polisy. Even though I turn the keypanel to off the during the Wait the program still runs and the light shuts off. However if you change the if to : Then it works as explained and the light never shuts off. So, there is a difference between a device being "switched" and its "status". Something that either changed or the Cookbook is in error as they used the "switched" condition and not the "status". https://www.universal-devices.com/docs/production/The+ISY994+Home+Automation+Cookbook.pdf

So, I believe it’s only when you have a Wait statement in the Then that the If can be reevaluated. Without a Wait the entire Then is executed regardless what is happening in the IF.

Oracle JAVA Ergonomics After reading up on this it's probably best, for me, to just leave it alone. I don't suspect I have an issue with Java garbage only that I'd rather have a dedicated Windows program instead of a Java app. 🙂 Task Manager shows 407.7 MB memory consumed for the Universal Devices Administrative Console. I have 16 GB of ram, so the Oracle Java Ergonomics probably knows best on what to do.

Here's my notes on the subject. Can't remember where they came from. JAVA runtime parameter, increased memory block -Xmx512m Xmx sets the maximum memory heap size. Xms sets the minimum memory heap size. So doing -Xmx1024m -Xms128m should work. -Xmsn Specify the initial size, in bytes, of the memory allocation pool. This value must be a multiple of 1024 greater than 1MB. Append the letter k or K to indicate kilobytes, or m or M to indicate megabytes. The default value is chosen at runtime based on system configuration. For more information, see HotSpot Ergonomics Examples: -Xms6291456 -Xms6144k -Xms6m -Xmxn Specify the maximum size, in bytes, of the memory allocation pool. This value must a multiple of 1024 greater than 2MB. Append the letter k or K to indicate kilobytes, or m or M to indicate megabytes. The default value is chosen at runtime based on system configuration. For more information, see HotSpot Ergonomics Examples: -Xmx83886080 -Xmx81920k -Xmx80m

The way I handle this is with 2 programs. The trigger program fires the 2nd action program. The action program immediately disables the trigger program. When the action program finishes all the actions, it enables the trigger program. Been running for years on a 994i and now on Polisy. Variations exists for damping and false trigger scenarios but that’s the basic. Beware of wait statements!

Can HA set Insteon device parameters like the On and Ramp values? I was looking at the Insteon Integration and didn't come away really knowing how it works. Does it need the Insteon Hub or can it communicate directly with a PLM or is it Cloud based?

If you had the number, what would you do with it?

About the same for me. Another action that takes a while is opening the Programs tab for the first time after launching the AC, about 30 seconds. IoX backups take forever as well. The 994i was way quicker. I'm on Polisy 5.5.4 with ZMatter board.

It’s mostly working now on Polisy 5.5.4. See below from another post Upgraded Polisy IoX from 5.5.3 to 5.5.4 Upgrade went smoothly but, I get 5 beeps plus 1 when it finishes. These reported issues still remain. ZSE40 ZooZ 4-in-1 Sensor Will not complete interview. tried Update with Interview many times and exclude/include. ZooZ states to press z-wave button every 15 seconds for 2 minutes during include, this still didn't help. Not sure if this is new but: Temperature will not display in Fahrenheit only Celsius regardless of configuration parameter. ZSE42 ZooZ Water Leak Sensor Cannot Query or Set Configuration Parameters These reported issues have been fixed: ZSE40 ZooZ 4-in-1 Sensor Motion Sensor node Status now changes with motion detection. Configuration Parameters will Query and Set ZSE42 ZooZ Water Leak Sensor Leak Detected Alarm node now triggers ON and OFF with water detection.

I found that gem in the ZooZ docs that came with the device. Strange because most of what I've read says that Wake Up last for 1 minute unless you change a parameter. But, If Wake Up is initiated manually who knows how long it stays, maybe 15 seconds?

Yes that was fixed in 5.5.4 but I still couldn’t get the configuration parameters to query or set in zse42. UDI tells me they just acquired a zse42 and would look into it. Also said they will be releasing many smaller incremental updates to fix issues as they ferret them out. Be sure to follow forum topics for the individual releases as users are reporting when stuff starts working.

Upgraded Polisy IoX from 5.5.3 to 5.5.4 Upgrade went smoothly but, I get 5 beeps plus 1 when it finishes. These reported issues still remain. ZSE40 ZooZ 4-in-1 Sensor Will not complete interview. tried Update with Interview many times and exclude/include. ZooZ states to press z-wave button every 15 seconds for 2 minutes during include, this still didn't help. Not sure if this is new but: Temperature will not display in Fahrenheit only Celsius regardless of configuration parameter. ZSE42 ZooZ Water Leak Sensor Cannot Query or Set Configuration Parameters These reported issues have been fixed: ZSE40 ZooZ 4-in-1 Sensor Motion Sensor node Status now changes with motion detection. Configuration Parameters will Query and Set ZSE42 ZooZ Water Leak Sensor Leak Detected Alarm node now triggers ON and OFF with water detection.

I had put in a Support ticket for this. Chris just answered and said: The ticket was for: Web Server Module - Dynamic/Custom Page Creation

The ZooZ, ZSE40 4 in 1 Sensor is also only showing in C instead of F. The default is F which is what I had before when not using ZMatter module.

Not sure I'm asking this correctly but here's what I got. This z-wave switch, Aeotec Heavy Duty Smart Switch Gen5 US, is in my IoX and it has 6 nodes. As seen in the Admin Console one node is the actual switch with a Status attribute and On, Off buttons. The other nodes may or may not have any attributes shown. One node labeled, Energy Meter, has 4 attributes: Total Energy, Current Power, Current Voltage, Current Current. In HA I'm getting the switch node showing as a switch entity and behaves as a typical on/off switch. The Energy Meter node, however, is labeled as a sensor entity but is "unknown" and isn't showing any of the associated attribute values. Image from HA Settings/Devices I see that I'm able to access these attributes, i.e. the Energy Meter,Total Energy, like in an automation as: state_attr('sensor.zy_023_energy_meter','total_energy_used') What is the best way to approach z-wave devices like this and have HA show these attributes, like on a dashboard, where's it's keeping history on the value of the attribute? Would it be best to add a Sensor template to configuration.yaml for each of these attributes. Like quoted below? Or is there a preferred way that provides for other usages of the entity that I'm not familiar with yet?

I've seen this with my other ZooZ sensor devices. After excluding they start to include back again. I have various issues with the ZSE42, ZSE40. Support tickets in, UDI is aware and offers a fix in upcoming software releases.