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I'm still trying grasp this zwave thing. I do not use zwave. I have no interest in zwave. If the offerings from Bali and Lowes and Home Depot are not RTS, then they are not a viable option to me. I guess my question is: Are Zwave and RTS mutually exclusive? Stu said above that they are indeed mutually exclusive.

Thanks Stu. So, if I'm understanding correctly... Bali is not a viable source for RTS? This is so confusing to me.

I want to install some motorized shades in our bedroom. Roman Shades, if it matters. Right now I just want to get them ordered and installed and figure out the integration with ISY/Insteon later. But of course, I want to pick motors now that will be compatible when I get to that part of the project. I do know that I do not want to deal with batteries. I’ve skimmed most of the applicable threads here and it seems that "Somfy RTS" motors are preferred. I’ve looked at the Somfy website and I see that they have about a dozen different motors and some are RTS motors, some evidently aren't. There is also something called SDN, whatever that is. But I don’t see that they actually sell any blinds or shades. Just motors and controllers. Somfy has a “where to buy” page that points you to Home Depot, Lowes, JCPenney, and Menards. All of these go to Bali blinds and shades and their Autoview remotes. I seem to remember reading somewhere that Bali Autoview is Z-wave. Does that mean that the Somfy 16 Channel Universal RTS Interface II (1810872), that I’ve seen mentioned here many times, is also Z-wave? I’m not sure if that is significant or not. Having said all this I finally get to my questions (maybe the first of many). Where are you getting your motorized shades and blinds? How do you know you are getting Somfy RTS?

I have used the ones without the levers. The biggest problem with them is they do not work well at all with stranded wire. It is very difficult to get the stranded wire to push in. And if you do get the stranded wire in and you ever want to get it out again, you are pretty much out of luck. They won't come out by twisting and pulling like a solid wire will. If you only use solid wire, they work pretty well.

Take a look here http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/21104-program-to-adjust-local-on-level-of-devices-depending-on-time-of-day/?p=204828

http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/20484-adjust-local-on-level/page-2?do=findComment&comment=197386 http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/20831-using-isy-to-set-on-level/?do=findComment&comment=201592 Read those 2 posts. You don't need to read the whole threads. What you are doing wrong is you are referring to a scene in your "In Scene" dropdown instead of a device. I know that sounds confusing because it says "In Scene". But you want to select the device you want to adjust in both the "In Scene" and the "Set" dropdowns.

Yes, it seams doing any kind of integration is EXTREAMLY difficult. The reading I've done on the ST forum suggests that a REST call on the LAN is possible using "HubAction". It sounds like the call would actually originate from the ST hub. I'm not arguing what you said... I don't have the skills or knowledge about ST to suggest anything one way or another. Just expressing my current understand, which isn't much.

I want to make a REST call (is that the right term?) to my ISY when a virtual switch is "turned on". (http://userid:password@192.168.xx.xx/rest/nodes/scene_id/cmd/DON) I made an attempt to get help on the SmartThings forum, but while the responses have intended to be helpful, most of what they said assumed I knew WAY more than I do about programming a SmartThings Hub. If I knew as much as they assumed I do, I wouldn't need help with this (probably) very simple project. My plea for step by step help has gone unanswered. So far I have Virtual Switch (SmartThings calls it a "Simulated" Switch). set up and working. I just need to know how to make a REST call now.

Perhaps I can help a bit and hopefully not cause any more confussion. Everything you (OP) need to know about how to do this is in zerop's post #26 in the referenced thread. Don't just skim over it. Read every bit of the instructions. The second paragraph is critical to read and follow every word. The scene that zerop has you create is ONLY for the purpose of defining the device as a controller. Why? Because devices that are controllers will show up in the "In Scene" dropdown in the program. The scene that zerop has you create IS NOT used in the program. Only the device is referenced in the program.

In the Options window for the IOLinc there is a check box for "Relay Follows Input". Mine started to work when I checked this box.

I'm in the exact same dilemma and have been running a few ideas through my head too. I like your solution... a lot! How will you turn the I/O Link off? Does it have a toggle mode? I haven't played with mine in awhile and don't remember all the functionallity.

Thank you for that. I had looked at CQC awhile back, but didn't get too far with it at the time. I spent a good part of the day yesterday with it and made some good progress. Very cool product. Way easier to use than OpenHAB. The wall I came up against is that there is nothing that can be read from the Harmony Hub except the current Activity. So, I can trigger a scene on the ISY if an Activity or PowerOff is selected, but there is nothing that can be done (that I can see) for a button press on the remote. This is of course no fault of CQC or the ISY. So back to my first post... I'm wondering if there is some other "hub" that the Harmony Hub nativly communicates with that could in turn issue an IFTTT trigger? I may pick up a Smartthings Hub at Home Depot this week and see if this is a possiblility. Unless someone can already tell me my idea won't work. Jimbo, I have not ruled out ISYHelper, but if I can get something "off the shelf" that will meet my needs, it will be much easier for me than learning RPi and everything else that goes with it.

C'mon. Most of you guys and gals are way smarter than I am. And I just know that some of you have knowledge of some of these other hubs that I mentioned. Certainly more knowledge than I do. Is there any hub that is currently supported by the Harmony hub (SmartThings, LIFX, PEQ, Qivicon, & Insteon hub) that could send out IFTTT or REST commands to the ISY? If the answer is no, please just let me. If I have no idea what I'm talking about, let me know that too! The ISYhelper sounds like a possibility, but it also sounds WAY more difficult and involved than I want to get into.

I'm going to have 4 Harmony Elites and hubs that will be in different parts of the house, and my ISY will be in the equipment closet. So, of course, the question becomes, how to get the Harmony hubs and the ISY to communicate when they are not in close proximity. I bought the IR module for my ISY in anticipation of this project, but now that I'm starting to think it through, I don't know exactly how I'm going to get the IR signal from the Harmony hubs to the ISY. Everything seems like such a kludge... There are "IR over IP" products and "IR over coax" solutions. There are various IR extenders that convert to RF and then back again. All these "solutions" require more little boxes, more wires, and more wall warts. The very very big frustration with this scenario is that both the Harmony hub and the ISY are already on the LAN. So why is this so complicated and messy! Why am I having to use IR at all? I know the Harmony does not directly support the ISY other than through IR. I've read the threads here and how Michael has tried to work with Logitech, but has not had any luck. But still, there has got to be cleaner way to do this. I know both ISY and Harmony hub are IFTTT capable, but the Harmony hub has no triggers (yet), so that won't work, at least not directly. But what about some of these other hubs that I see that the Harmony does work with? I see SmartThings, LIFX, PEQ, Qivicon, & Insteon hub in the Harmony Home Control Device list. Are any of them IFTTT capable and can send a trigger? I'd be willing to buy one of these other hubs if this would work. I don't know what most of these are, or how any of them work, but maybe some of them can send an IFTTT trigger? If so, then an ISY scene could be run without using IR. Thoughts?

Lol. Me? Stubburn? I do believe my wife would agree with you on that.

Well, I'm sorry, but I don't know what to tell you. It sure looks to me like you selected a scene in your test program as evidenced by the ".scene" in the "In Scene" section of the action. I have a device there. The same device as in the "Set" portion of the action as I do in the "In Scene" portion of the action. And it works. You either have a scene selected or a different device that curiously has a name ending in ".scene". I'm at v4.5.4. I have no idea what v5 looks like.

In the "In Scene" dropdown there is a list with both devices (that are controllers) and scenes. Despite the label "In Scene", you need to select the device in order for this to work

Thank you everybody. Especially zerop for walking me throught it step by step (post #26). I got it working and it works perfectly. I never dreamed this would stir up so much discussion! I really had a hard time wrapping my head around zerop's solution, but it does work. My apologies to those who offered the same solution, but then I didn't grasp it.

I'm at v4.5.4. The pulldown that larryllix is trying to show me definitely is not there.

As I said in post #7: "Your first program looks like what I want to do, but I don't have "On Level" or "Ramp Rate" in my list. Is this a version 5 thing?"

Just a follow up as to where I am with this. I set the On Level [Locally Applied] to 25%. I have a Scene with the On Level at 100%. And I have this program: Master Bath Day - [iD 0009][Parent 0001] If From Sunrise To 11:00:00PM (same day) And Control 'Indoor Lights / Devices / Master Bathroom' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Indoor Lights / Master Bathroom' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') It works okay, but I don't like the lag due to the program kicking in when turning on the light during the day.

I tried that, but it turns the light on. I want to turn the light on with the paddle tap.

I don't understand how adjusting a scene is applicable, as this is the actual switch paddle that is being tapped. There is no scene involved. It's the local control that would need to be adjusted.