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Under Tools / Diagnostics / Show PLM Link table.... then hit start. I am not as knowledgable as others on this forum about this, but I am pretty sure if you have programs running or adjustments happening to your system at the same time, it will throw the count off. So you need to stop your programs and let it run. Just ran mine.. 886.... big shortcoming of the PLM

After playing with it for 20 minutes, changing various settings, I was finally able to get them both to stick. Cant say what I did but essentially changing the port to other numbers, restarting, changing it back, restarting, sometimes just chaining the port and saving, sometimes hitting the top save button, sometimes the bottom. So bottomline, I cant tell you what worked, but it too 20 minutes of trying to get them both to stick. thanks.

Had to restart my EISY. Both of my WebControl Plug ins are searching fro port 80, even though in the config, I have 82 and 84. See screen shots below. thanks.

Agree, but you can restart individual plugs in from the screen above.

@larryllix great test program. Clearly verifies that the ISY rules work that way, as we all expected it should. Means something is corrupt. @CoolToys Sorry, but I cant remember, did you ever delete the program and rewrite it from scratch? Maybe in a different folder even. just to test if it's the program or the system?

One of the questions above is whether or not the program is completing. This should be easy to tell adn possibly eliminate by watching the program execute in the AC.. it should show solid green for five minutes and then change to a background green for idle / true. This should also show in the summary tab as to last run time and last finish time.. My guess is a load interference. Can you remove the load and see if the switch goes on and off as expected?

@Argelius If all you need to do is have a momentary close of a relay, there are plenty of zwave and if yo have the zigbee matter board, zigbee relays on amazon https://www.amazon.com/s?k=z+wave+relay+12v&crid=2L8WYHA87Z1ZK&sprefix=z+wave+relay%2Caps%2C148&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_2_12 This would integrate directly into the eisy if its within range of the gate. You would also need wifi within range out there for the RATDGO device.

@whywork Its a bit easier to go to UD Mobile, under settings / plugins and you should see there if there is an update needed and if you open the plug in, there will be an option to Update. But it still requires you to go look,

Check the "children" under the main lock and users should be present. This access control is also used in programing. if you dont have it, then you may need to do a "interview" to get it to show up properly. See screen shots below.

@JP It's in UDMobile....starting on any screen, click on the bottom right gear icon for settings. scroll down to Controller, select it, and then select your EISY.. On the next page, scroll down and you will see PROGRAMS AND VARIABLE SETTINGS, Click on that and you can adjust.

very similar. I also use most of those strategies, but still got way up and had to revert all of my basement scenes (low importance) to programs as there are over 20 switches for each scene. I use programs to notice if a switch for example over the pool table is on and then is switched on, the whole basement goes into "playing pool" scene. Same for other focal points in a large game room. Was in the high 900's and seeing issues when I had all these in scenes, even with the program being the trigger ie, no controllers. Now I am in the high 700s so that is good so that I can occasionally add a new scene or two. Cheers.

@CoolToys To larry's point, I label all my Integer variables with the letter I in front so that if am using that variable, I know it is NOT going to effect the program's IF statement. If it doesn't have an I, I know its a state variable (which are my majority). On a separate thread, I recently covered some of the Programing logic in the ISY. check this thread.

@gregkinney I understand the frustration. My son, who has a computer science degree from Univ of Michigan, just refuses to get his head around it. lol. It does call for often "isolating" certain activity you may want in a separate program w/o an IF which gets called to run the THEN, so that if you have waits, there is no IF to reevaluate and therefore no chance the program will stop before completion. Often a tripping spot for everyone.

@gregkinney this page is an excellent reference page to better understand how programs "execute" in ISY. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Scope,_Precedence_and_Execution_Order#Statement_Execution_Order --> Statement Execution Order Within the Then or Else clause of a program, statements are executed from top to bottom in the order in which they occur. When a statement calls another program, the called program begins executing, and the calling program immediately continues execution with the next statement in sequence--it does not wait for the called program to complete before continuing. A series of statements within a Then clause (or within an Else clause), up to the next Wait or Repeat statement, are atomic. In other words, all such statements are executed before the conditions of the program are retested. The program's conditions are reevaluated each time a Wait or Repeat statement is encountered, and at the end of each iteration of a Repeat loop. What this means is that if a program's Then clause changes a condition which causes the program's overall condition to become false (or if the program's Else clause changes a condition which causes the program's overall condition to become true), the current atomic statement group will complete, and at that point execution will transfer from the Then clause (or the Else clause) to the Else clause (or the Then clause). Therefore, if a Then clause (or an Else clause) contains no Wait or Repeat statements, the entire clause is atomic, and will complete before the program's conditions are reevaluated.

this may be a bit of a wish.. there is a limit of 1000 "devices in scenes". So for example in my basement I have ~20 switches.. if I put tougher 10 scenes with those 20 switches, I have used up ~ 200 of the 1000. I had to replace all my basement scenes with programs (much slower) to avoid overloading this limitation And to be clear, this limitation is with the PLM, nothing else. (disclaimer, I may not have all the correct "technical aspects" of the above, but the concept is relatively close to correct)

Ok.. I tried once more by changing it to 90, then back to 84 and VOILA! it worked.. Strange.

Have tried to delete the 84, put in 80, saved it, stopped and restarted PI.. then did it again, but deleted the 80 and put in the 84, saved, stopped restarted. Still not working. Thanks.

upon further investigation, it doesn't seem to be going to the right port. From the log: wc:fetch_data: Fetching data from URL: http://192.168.68.44:80/getall.cgi 2024-10-28 13:30:27.713 Thread-76 (poll) udi_interface ERROR wc:fetch_data: Error fetching data: HTTPConnectionPool(host='192.168.68.44', port=80

I have two Web8 controllers. I have installed 2 plug-ins with different IP addresses etc. At first they both worked. Had a lock up on my eisy. Upon restart I could not get web8 RIGHT, to work at all. I am remote, so I went directly into the web8 to ensure it was connected. It is and I could access all the screens w/o problem. Went back into PGX, erased some of the config values, put them back in, and it still shows as Disconnected, but it did retrieve my temperatures. I have stopped and started it a few times, no changes. attached is the log fyi. The other plug in shows a 1 in the ST driver vs zero in this one. Thanks. WebControl8_10-28-2024_13416_PM.zip

@gschoffstall I keep both the admin.jnlp and the start.jnlp on my desktop. When I am local, I only use the admin shortcut as it is so fast to open up the login page. I use start when I am traveling and need to use the portal route instead.

@gschoffstall try this and seeif you get anything.

I have found that sometimes the AC Finder can be really really slow in "finding" my eisy, even if I put in the address manually.. One thing you may try is to put this into a browser: http://192.168.xx.xx:8080/admin.jnlp where the 192.... is the INTERNAL address of your eisy. This will download a file called admin.jnlp. Clicking on this downloaded file should open you up immediately to the login for your Esiy.

@CoolToys Not sure about the bedroom yet, but a couple of points about your programing that yo may need to watch out for: Occupied_Guest_Edit and Occupied Guest Check - looks like they should work together. Auto Late Arrival Auto Off - [ID 0010][Parent 0001] If $sLate_Arrival is 1 Then Wait 10 minutes $sLate_Arrival = 0 Set 'Garage Drive Spots' Off Wait 20 minutes Set 'Kitchen Under Cabinet' Off Wait 10 minutes Set 'Downstairs Office Lamp' Off --I would move this line $sLate_Arrival = 0 to the last line. Each time a WAIT completes, it rechecks the IF statement, so this program will never complete. After the second wait, it will evaluate as false. The last program looks solid.

Are your bedroom lights the only ones that are acting up? is it one Insteon switch? or several? If it's one, it may just need to be factory reset and restored from the AC? (you have probably done that, but just checking the simple things) I have one light that is through a micro module.. it has its own spirit.. comes on / off whenever and however it wants.. nothing will be running.. I have factory reset it to no avail.. luckily is a light I can live with being random. Need to buy a new micro switch for it sometime. Another trouble shooting thing you could try is: set up a new program that if the bedroom light comes on (during the night or when your bedtime variable is set), then send a notification, email, or turn some other obscure light on. Or it could just be a blank THEN and just see if the program turns true. This will test if the ISY is actually recognizing that the light is on, or if it's something "local" in the switch itself?

@CoolToys From a problem solving perspective are you familiar with the Find/Replace command in the AC? It's a great way to find a variable hidden in a program, or a program being called from another program etc. You just pick what you want to find and then hit the find button repetitively until all instances are found. It wont replace anything unless you press the replace button. This has saved me many many times. Also you said above "Last night both "sEarly_Morning" and "sNight" were "1" which should not happen. That program is here too. I manually changed them both to zero and hit bedtime. This morning they are both still zero." If I understand your programs, at 4am, sNight goes to zero, and at sunrise +4mins, sEarly_Morning also goes to zero. So unless you checked these variables BEFORE sunrise+4min, then they would both be zero as you noted. If you checked it before that then they should be 0 and 1. So I am not sure what the question is anymore.... After some more trouble shooting, if you could try again to explain what you are running into adn when posting programs, right click on the program and select the bottom option of "copy to clipboard", then when you paste it into this forum, the complete program gets inserted. Good luck!