Javi

Yes, I use one without the load connected for the bathroom fan. The switch on-level leds act as a countdown timer via ISY program. I also added a switch without load in the living room so we would have switches at all entryways.

Ok, I think I found the problem. I replaced what I think is a malfunctioning ApplianceLink with a LampLink and changed its location in the kitchen, it may have been getting too hot in the previous location. This scene now works fine. I am wondering if I have another bad device in the lawn lights scene, the keypad (not directly wired to devices) used to manually turn the scene on/off has a faint buzzing sound. I'll change the scene so it is controlled by another keypad to see if the problem persists. Also I was at Wal-Mart this week and they had a clearance on the Insteon Starter Kit ( http://www.smarthome.com/insteon-2244-234-starter-kit.html) for $60. It included the Insteon Hub, and 2 LampLinks, its a great deal for 2 LampLinks...Anyone know what I could do with the Hub?

So at least one device in the scene has to be on the opposite leg? I'm not exactly sure what this means but I am assuming it means that one item has to be on a circuit on the right side of my beaker box an one from the left side of the box. Should the scene be PLM reachable if all the devices can be triggered from the ISY? Thanks

Thanks LeeG, I guess I'll have to look into the communication issue again, It just seems odd that this only happens when turning scenes on or off and I do not have the same communication issue when I do the device only. Anyway now that I have figured out that it is the scenes I can write a program to trigger devices when a keypad is pressed or add devices to the program containing the scenes, I have already changed my voice commands (http get) to send to each device instead of the scene because it was annoying when it would only turn off/on some of the devices and then I would have to reverse the desired command to reissue the desired command.

Hi Lee, This also happens when I press a button on the keypad link which is in a scene. The ISY admin console reports Items as off even though they are still on. Below is the log from me pressing the keypad On then Off (which worked fine) then On then Off (at which point one of the devices in the scene stays On). The Device which is On is reported as off in the admin console. I could not get the same behavior today (that I isolated yesterday) though an http get action. However this also happens when I trigger my lawn lights scene by a program, at times some of the devices turn on others do not but are reported as on in the admin console. If I try to turn on the scene with an http get action (voice control from phone) it will not turn on, unless I turn the scene off first. This was happening until I added the devices (contained in the scene) into the program along with the scene. I have this week off of work so I will remove the devices from the program above, maybe sometime this week the scene will not trigger and I can capture the log when I send the http get request Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.8F.C2 00.00.04 CF 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [std-Group ] 22.8F.C2-->Group=4, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 8F C2 4] [DON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [ 22 8F C2 4] DON 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [21 3F 90 1] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [ 21 3F 90 1] ST 255 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [D2D-CMP 0034] STS [21 3F 90 1] ST op=1 Event(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [D2D-CMP 0035] STS [21 3F 90 1] ST op=1 Event(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 8F C2 4] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [ 22 8F C2 4] ST 255 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2D 1D 7F 1] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [ 2D 1D 7F 1] ST 255 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.8F.C2 11.00.04 CF 06 00 (00) Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [std-Group ] 22.8F.C2-->11.00.04, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:05 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.8F.C2 00.00.04 CF 13 00 LTOFFRR(00) Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [std-Group ] 22.8F.C2-->Group=4, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 8F C2 4] [DOF] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [ 22 8F C2 4] DOF 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [21 3F 90 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [ 21 3F 90 1] ST 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [D2D-CMP 0034] STS [21 3F 90 1] ST op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [D2D-CMP 0035] STS [21 3F 90 1] ST op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 8F C2 4] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [ 22 8F C2 4] ST 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2D 1D 7F 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [ 2D 1D 7F 1] ST 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.8F.C2 13.00.04 CF 06 00 (00) Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [std-Group ] 22.8F.C2-->13.00.04, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:06 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.8F.C2 00.00.04 CF 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [std-Group ] 22.8F.C2-->Group=4, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 8F C2 4] [DON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [ 22 8F C2 4] DON 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [21 3F 90 1] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [ 21 3F 90 1] ST 255 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [D2D-CMP 0034] STS [21 3F 90 1] ST op=1 Event(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [D2D-CMP 0035] STS [21 3F 90 1] ST op=1 Event(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 8F C2 4] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [ 22 8F C2 4] ST 255 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2D 1D 7F 1] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [ 2D 1D 7F 1] ST 255 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.8F.C2 11.00.04 CF 06 00 (00) Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [std-Group ] 22.8F.C2-->11.00.04, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:09 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.8F.C2 00.00.04 CF 13 00 LTOFFRR(00) Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [std-Group ] 22.8F.C2-->Group=4, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 8F C2 4] [DOF] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [ 22 8F C2 4] DOF 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [21 3F 90 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [ 21 3F 90 1] ST 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [D2D-CMP 0034] STS [21 3F 90 1] ST op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [D2D-CMP 0035] STS [21 3F 90 1] ST op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 8F C2 4] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [ 22 8F C2 4] ST 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2D 1D 7F 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [ 2D 1D 7F 1] ST 0 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.8F.C2 13.00.04 CF 06 00 (00) Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [std-Group ] 22.8F.C2-->13.00.04, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Sun 08/30/2015 12:49:10 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. It does seem that the ISY is capturing all the button presses so maybe there is a problem with Insteon Scenes and the PLM reporting the scenes. My PLM failed last December and was about a year and a half old so Smarthome sent me a replacement after I returned the defective item. This happened on Christmas Eve so I had to order a new One Next day Air or be without for at least a week because of the shipping schedule after christmas. The new PLM is the one I have installed and I still have the replacement as a backup....This problem has been consistent with both the old and new PLM which was why I thought it was a communication issue, but I recently realized that this problem only happens to devices triggered by a scene. I have a filterlink and have tried placing it on different equipment and moving the ISY and PLM to another location but the problem continued. Any help would be appreciated, Javier

I have been having same issue for months now, at first I thought is was a communication issue because I have an older home with metal conduit and boxes. I finally had time to test this and it is the same. I can make a rest request to turn on a scene and it may not turn on, it will report in the Admin console as on (scene and devices) even though it is off, If I resend the "ON" command the scene will NEVER turn on until the Off command is sent and the ON command is resent, however if I send the ON command to the device (not the scene) the device will turn on even if it is shows On in the Admin Console.

My home was built in the 1948 so this may or may not work. My entire house has metal conduit. A new electrical box was installed and the conduit was grounded. Then a screw would work to ground new fixtures..... You will have to check if code in your area allows for this to be done.

Good to know, In my experience they have been getting better about security over the last year and are much harder to update without an account than they were a year ago. Also I am not connecting to the beacons when using them for location so the URL issue is not a problem for the indoor location use. Even with these issues someone would have to be in my yard to even attempt to overwrite information on the beacons...... So I would not use them to broadcast a URL, but I still feel completely safe reading power levels without connecting to the beacon. I'm sure many of us have Internet connected devices that are much more vulnerable to to attack.

Hi glacket, I have been working on the same thing for about a year on Android with Estimote BLE beacons (ibeacons) and producing unfavorably results with tasker. Then a couple of weeks ago google announced Eddystone. João Dias (creator of AutoApps tasker plugins) is now working on adding eddystone beacons to a new tasker plugin. The Estimote Android App has detection of beacons and looks promising. Their website says "Indoor Location requires 2 dev kits" so it is my assumption Estimote has indoor location working. The following is a link to joao's community discussing Eddystone. You must be a member of the AutoApps Alpha Community on Google plus to see this post! https://plus.google.com/+StefanSarzio/posts/jJdM7cjbiqj Link to Estimote website showing "Indoor Location requires 2 dev kits." http://estimote.com/#jump-to-products Googles Eddystone Announcement http://googledevelopers.blogspot.de/2015/07/lighting-way-with-ble-beacons.html?linkId=15518166 I will be testing this as soon as it comes out...if it works better then anything I have now I will add it into my "Home Automation - Chaining Voice Commands" Project http://forum.joaoapps.com/index.php?resources/home-automation-chaining-voice-commands.75/