smokegrub

There are two wires that enter the junction box--the same two at the switch. One is white and the other black. Both have power just like they did at the switch.

Here are the requested files.

Here are attached files for the wall switch and for the wiring under the fan cowling.

Thanks, Stu.

I will open the fan housing tomorrow and send photos of the wiring. Thanks to all for your patience and help.

I have experience with the FanLinc and have had one installed and in operation for two years. I have one awaiting installation in the fan I have been talking about. The plan is an 8-button KPL replacing the stndard wall switch and a FanLinc installed inside the fan housing.

I apologize for having difficulty with this, but I do not yet understand what is suggested. I have two hot wires coming into the switch. From there two hot wires go to the ceiling fan. From that point I get lost. The illustration offered earlier confuses me because it shows power on the side of the fan away from the switch and there is no power there. Then there is mention of a neutral returning to the switch/KPL! A schematic would be very helpful. I showed this thread to a man who does basic wiring (switches, etc.) and he couldn't understand it. Thanks for your help.

That's what I was hp\oping to hear! Thanks!

"You will not be able to control a physical load with the KPL but you can still control the light and the fan speeds through the FanLinc." Pardon my lack of knowledge on the subject but the KPL has 8 buttons , one will be used for the fan light and 3 for fan speed control. That leaves 4 buttons. I plan to use one to enable/disable hidden door sensors, one to enable/disable a SynchroLinc that provides information about when a well pump turns On/Off (only used when we are away from the locxation) and one that will reserved for some other purpose. Will I be able to do that with the suggested wiring modification? The statement, in quotes, is the reason I ask the question.

I am not a knowledgeable electrician but I think I understand what you are saying, Teken. But, without real time status reporting from the KPL I lose much of what I want. This switch is 325 miles from my primary residence and is not visited during the winter.

In an old home (where I was raised) the wiring is very old. The wiring in the kitchen is the newest, but it is more than 60 years old. Currently, a switch there controls the on/hh status of a ceiling fan/light. Pulling the switch reveals a single wire entering the top of the box with one each black and white wires meaning both apparently have to be hot. Is it possible to wire a KPL into this setup? How? Rewiring is not a very realistic option but it could be done. I want to use the KPL to control the llght/fan using a FanLinc.

The 2441ZTH thermostat (powered by a dongle) at our vacation home is controlled by a LampLinc Dimmer (Dualband). Occasionally, the thermostat's current condition is blank in the ISY and on MobiLinc. By turning the LampLinc off and then back on using the LampLinc the thermostat reboots but loses its mode (heat/cool) and its setpoint (degrees). An ISY program (see below) runs automatically when it detects that the mode has been lost and resets it and the set point. The current temperature will then appear correctly in the ISY and on MobiLinc. Since this program automatically reboots the thermostat it inserts the temperture setpoint specified in the program. It the mode and/or setpoint needs to be changed, it must be first changed in the program. Thermostat Setpoint Reset (Power Outage) - [iD 0011][Parent 0001][Not Enabled] If Status 'Thermostat / Thermostat (Main)' is Mode Off Then Wait 15 seconds Set 'Thermostat / Thermostat (Main)' Mode Heat Set 'Thermostat / Thermostat (Main)' 50° (Heat Setpoint) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') The thermostat has worked flawlessly since implemented this method. I realize that more robust programming can address different modes/settings, I just don't need them. And, by the way, I have a notification sent to me each morning with the current temperature. I have another sent only when the temperature drops below setting indicating the heating system has failed. I can then call for assistance in addressing the problem.

Now, that's a Man Cave!

There is nothing funny about my Man Cave!

Do you think that would better satisfy my objective?

If you do not send an off, what stops the doorbell from continuing to sound?

Thanks, Lee and Larry.

I created the following two programs. The first is intended to enable the second. I must be doing something wrong since the second does not run. BuzzLinc - [iD 0020][Parent 0001] If From 8:00:00AM To Sunset (same day) Then Enable Program 'BuzzLinc (Disabled)' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') BuzzLinc (Disabled) - [iD 001F][Parent 0001][Not Enabled] If Control 'Door Sensors / Deck Door Sensor' is switched On Or Control 'Door Sensors / Kitchen Door Sensor' is switched On Or Control 'Door Sensors / Man Cave Door Sensor' is switched On Then Set 'BuzzLinc-Relay' On Set 'BuzzLinc-Relay' Off Set 'BuzzLinc-Relay' On Set 'BuzzLinc-Relay' Off Set 'BuzzLinc-Relay' On Set 'BuzzLinc-Relay' Off Set 'BuzzLinc-Relay' On Set 'BuzzLinc-Relay' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') The second program has the Enabled checkbox unchecked. What am I doing wrong?

The 31.6F.1C is an I/O Linc (AKA BuzzLinc). The 2C.71.97 is the Hidden Door Sensor that was turned on when opening the door and which activated the program. I added an Off Command to the Else before I did the Level 3 Trace above.

I am sometimes slow on the uptake, but Placing "If Control" in quotes finally caught my attention and I modified the program. I now get all the beeps but their spacing is very erratic. I ran the program on level 3 and here is what I got: Mon 08/10/2015 06:35:32 PM : [ IR] 01AA Press Mon 08/10/2015 06:35:34 PM : [ IR] 02D2 Press Mon 08/10/2015 06:35:51 PM : [ IR] 015A Press Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:20 PM : [ IR] 02AA Press Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 00.00.01 C7 11 01 LTONRR (01) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.97-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2C 71 97 1] [DON] [1] uom=0 prec=-1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [ 2C 71 97 1] DON 1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [D2D-CMP 001F] CTL [2C 71 97 1] DON op=1 Event(val=1 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 00.00.01 CB 11 01 LTONRR (01) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.97-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 28.CC.6C 41 11 01 LTONRR (01) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 2C.71.97-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 11.01.01 CB 06 00 (00) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.97-->11.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:36 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:37 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 11.01.01 CB 06 00 (00) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:37 PM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.97-->11.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:37 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 31 6F 1C 0F 11 02 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2C 71 97 1] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [ 2C 71 97 1] ST 255 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [D2D-CMP 0012] STS [2C 71 97 1] ST op=1 Event(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 31.6F.1C 0F 11 02 06 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 31 6F 1C 0F 11 02 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.6F.1C 28.CC.6C 2B 11 02 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 31.6F.1C-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 31.6F.1C 0F 11 02 06 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.6F.1C 28.CC.6C 2B 11 02 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:38 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 31.6F.1C-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:39 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 31 6F 1C 0F 11 02 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:39 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 31.6F.1C 0F 11 02 06 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:39 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.6F.1C 28.CC.6C 2B 11 02 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:39 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 31.6F.1C-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 31 6F 1C 0F 11 02 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 00.00.01 C7 13 01 LTOFFRR(01) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.97-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 31.6F.1C 0F 11 02 06 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2C 71 97 1] [DOF] [1] uom=0 prec=-1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [ 2C 71 97 1] DOF 1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2C 71 97 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [ 2C 71 97 1] ST 0 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [D2D-CMP 0012] STS [2C 71 97 1] ST op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.6F.1C 28.CC.6C 2B 11 02 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 31.6F.1C-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 28.CC.6C 41 13 01 LTOFFRR(01) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 2C.71.97-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2C 71 97 1] [DOF] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:40 PM : [ 2C 71 97 1] DOF 0 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:41 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 28.CC.6C 42 13 01 LTOFFRR(01) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:41 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 2C.71.97-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:41 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:41 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 13.01.01 C7 06 00 (00) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:41 PM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.97-->13.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:41 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.97 13.01.01 C7 06 00 (00) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:42 PM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.97-->13.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:42 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:42 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 31 6F 1C 0F 11 02 Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:42 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 31.6F.1C 0F 11 02 06 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.6F.1C 28.CC.6C 2B 11 02 LTONRR (02) Mon 08/10/2015 06:37:42 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 31.6F.1C-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Can you interpret this for me?

With these suggestions I am hopeful I can address these issues. Thanks.

BuzzLinc - [iD 001F][Parent 0001] If From 10:00:00PM To Sunrise (next day) And ( Status 'Door Sensors / Deck Door Sensor' is 100% Or Status 'Door Sensors / Kitchen Door Sensor' is 100% Or Status 'Door Sensors / Man Cave Door Sensor' is 100% ) Then Repeat 4 times Set 'BuzzLinc' On Set 'BuzzLinc' Off Else Set 'BuzzLinc' Off The above program is designed to beep 4 times if one of the hidden door sensors is on between 10:00 PM and Sunrise the next day. The program partially works. If the door is opened and held open for a few seconds the beeps occur. However, if a door is opened and quickly closed I get 2 beeps at most. Is there any way to get all the beeps even if the door is quickly closed. Obviously, the door closing negates the full repeat sequence. Also, the beeps are rarely the same duration. Some beeps are long and some short and the interval between them is inconsistent. Any help will be appreciated.

Love it!

Teken: I enjoyed it also. The dongle on the outdoor module makes the plug-in from the SynchroLinc too fragile. Right now I am using rubber bands to ensure things stay together. I plan to get some cable ties for a more permanent solution.

Actually that is electrical tape that was not cut and smoothly trimmed. I went back and checked just to be certain. You have good eyes. After two cornea transplants and cataract surgery I do not have the vision of my youth!