smokegrub

Couldn't wait. The device linked on the first try. I can't believe I didn't catch that problem. My sincere thanks to you guys. It is a quirky little device. Red exclamation points that must be resolved. Followed by gray icons that likewise must be resolved. Definitely could benefit from improved ease of istallation/use. I am almost 70 years old now and this experience has definitely aged me more! : )

Both are now 4.2.16. I have no idea how 4.0.5 showed up because I had previosly linked a door sensor on my other ISY!!! Weird! I will test linking tomorrow morning and report.

Firmware: 4.0.5 UI: 4.2.10

Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:33 PM : [2C 71 9A ] Added to list of devices to link to ISY Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:33 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 2C 71 9A 0F 0D 00 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:33 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 2C.71.9A 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:33 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 2B.97.DA 2B 0D 02 (02) Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:33 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 2C.71.9A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:33 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 2C 71 9A 0F 10 00 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:33 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 2C.71.9A 0F 10 00 06 ID-REQ (00) Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:33 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 2B.97.DA 2B 10 00 ID-REQ (00) Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 2C.71.9A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 10.11.43 87 02 11 (11) Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [std-Broadcast] 2C.71.9A-->10.11.43, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [2C 71 9A 0 ] Calibrating engine version Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 2C 71 9A 1F 2F 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 2C.71.9A 1F 2F 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D0 06 (00) Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 2B.97.DA 2B 2F 00 (00) Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 2C.71.9A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 2C 71 9A 2B 97 DA 11 2F 00 00 01 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C1 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [Ext-Direct ] 2C.71.9A-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:34 PM : [2C 71 9A 0 ] Using Database Link Table offset 0x0FF8 (reported 0x0FF8) Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:35 PM : [2C 71 9A 0 ] Failed to add device, reason 1 Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:35 PM : [All ] Writing 0 bytes to devices Tue 10/21/2014 02:39:59 PM : [ Time] 14:39:59 0(0)

I am now at the location of my second ISY. I tried linking a door sensor at this location using the following procedure: 1. Placed the Door Sensor within a foot of the PLM (2413S). 2. Link Management>Sensors>Hidden Door Sensors>Remove Existing Links 3. Pressed and held the Set Botton on the Door Sensor until it beeped and the Status LED flashed green 4. Typed in the Door Sensor ID (2C.71.9A) and its Name; clicked OK 5. Get the message "Cannot add Insteon device". I have never struggled with any device the way I have with the door sensor! I am near giving up. Mac OS 10.9.5 Browser: Firefox 32.0.3 ISY 994i Firmware: 4.2.10

Thanks for the informative feedback. I will be leaving the area for the next couple of weeks. I will get back to this as soon as I return.

stusviews: I am not certain what you mean. I have done the 4-tap on each of the in-house access points and one of those does nothing for the one in the garage. The other makes the one the garage start flashing red. If I reverse the process and 4-tap the one in the garage I get flashing red on one of the access points in the house. If I simply plug in the access point in the garage its LED does not light.

I plugged it in and the LED does not light.

A friend loaned me a 2443 to test in my situation. Recall, if you will, that I have two access points installed in the house. Both the house and my garage are fed through the same elecrical meter. I want to add an access point in the garage to strengthen the signal there. Step-wise, how do I add this third access point?

stusviews: Thanks. I will send an order tomorrow.

Just to confirm, that is the 2992-222, correct?

Xathros: Which do you recommend? 2992-222 2443R

Xathros: I will purchase and install an access point/range extender. Also, thanks for informing me that the ToggleLins are powerline only. I wish there were a table somewhere for the Insteon devices that summarized their basic features such as RF only, Power Line Only, Dual Band, etc. Thank you.

Here is the summary of the situation I am dealing with. I have a two panel electrical system which use the same meter. Service from one panel is to the main house where there is a mixture of dual band and ToggleLincs. The second panel serves a detached garage where there are two ToggleLincs. The ToggleLincs in the garage are approximately 50 feet from the nearest dual band KPL and ToggleLinc in the house. I want to add a Hidden Door Sensor in the garage, but I have apparent signal stength issues and can only locate the sensor in a small space on the side of the door jamb nearest the house despite the fact that the proposed location of the sensor is less than 3 feet from the two ToggleLincs in the garage. I don't want to commit on the door sensor until I find out what I may be able to do to strenghen the signal it is receiving. I believe the ToggleLincs and Hidden Door Sensor in the garage are likely receiving their signal by RF from the house and not main line. If I am correct in my assumption, how can I get main line communication between the house and garage. I currently have 2 Access Points (2443) in the house. Would an access point in the garage bridge the two panels? Would I also need a dual band device in that location?

I will have to check out that confirmation process and will report back.

I missed the fact that ToggleLincs are not dual band when I was making my initial selections of devices. I have, however, 6 KPLS (dual band) throughout the house. Should I install a dual band device in the garage, replacing one of the ToggleLincs currently there? That would place a dual band device less than 3 feet from the door sensor's desired installation location. It is all too easy for relative newbies such as myself to miss the fact that ToggleLincs are not dual band. I was under the misimpression that if it were an Insteon device, it was dual band. Live and learn. Fortunately the system in the house works beautifully with the mix of devices there now. I have a small place located about 325 miles from my primary residence, and it has only ToggleLincs and X-10s on an ISY994i . I want to place a door sensor in a detached building similarly situated. Thus, whatever solution evolves here will have to be applied there. I am going to buy the book "INSTEON: Smarthomes for Everyone". Hopefully, that will keep me from making so many mistakes in the future. I hope I can also continue to access the knowledge resident at this forum. I look forward to an answer to my question in the first paragraph above.

Both of the devices in the garage are ToggleLincs (2466SW). I have these in numerous locations throughout the hous thinking they were dual band. Are they?

Michel: Neither can I get any other configuration other then the default to work.

Are there remedial measures to improve this performance?

Here you go, PurdueGuy. I ran this for one of the two devices. Tue 10/14/2014 09:06:11 AM : [ IR] 02AA Press Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 00.00.01 C3 11 01 LTONRR (01) Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.9A-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2C 71 9A 1] [DON] [1] uom=0 prec=-1 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [ 2C 71 9A 1] DON 1 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 00.00.01 C3 11 01 LTONRR (01) Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.9A-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [ IR] 02AA Press Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 00.00.01 C7 11 01 LTONRR (01) Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.9A-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2C 71 9A 1] [DON] [1] uom=0 prec=-1 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [ 2C 71 9A 1] DON 1 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 28.CC.6C 41 11 01 LTONRR (01) Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [std-Cleanup ] 2C.71.9A-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:11 AM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:12 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 28.CC.6C 42 11 01 LTONRR (01) Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:12 AM : [std-Cleanup ] 2C.71.9A-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:12 AM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:16 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 28.CC.6C 47 11 01 LTONRR (01) Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:16 AM : [std-Cleanup ] 2C.71.9A-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:16 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2C 71 9A 1] [DON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:16 AM : [ 2C 71 9A 1] DON 0 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:18 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2C.71.9A 11.01.01 C7 06 01 (01) Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:18 AM : [std-Group ] 2C.71.9A-->11.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:18 AM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Tue 10/14/2014 09:07:23 AM : [ IR] 012A Press

Final assessment for today. The sensor seems to work fine in the upper left portion of the jamb with the metal door open or closed and the fluorescent lights on or off. What I still do not understand is why the device will not communicate with the two dual band devices located less than 3 feet away but seems to communicate with a dual band device about 30 feet away and on the other side of 2 brick walls. I will contnue to test and report before drilling a 3/4-inch hole in the jamb.

While I was testing, the door was open except for a full length glass storm door. I will close the metal door and see what happens. I don't think that much matters given that the signal should be sent when the door opens. Will see.

It gets stranger all the time. I decided to test the device by holding in various locations along the jamb. At a point near the top of the jamb performance seems fine. If I position the device lower than about 18-inches fromj the top it does not work. I will do more testing before I drill a 3/4-inch hole in the jamb at any location. The only thing that I am aware of on the jamb side of the door is a sensor for the garage door opener.

Here is what happened. Whether the fluorescent lights are on or off, if I hold the sensor near the center of the door, placing it line of sight to the point where it was linked inside the house it functions properly. If I hold it against the door jamb where it will be located and not in line of sight, it does not work. At the latter location it is less than 3 feet from the 2 dual-band devices in the garage. In other words, if it is in a position where it apparently can communicate with the devices inside the house it is good to go. Thoughts?