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hmmmmm. Not sure how else to put it. This may be too complicated for a newbie ISY programmer, but in principle.... "I want the lights to be switched on only when people first enter the area. From then on, the lights shouldn't be triggered by motion from people watching a movie inside." This would not stop the MS from switching the lights completely, only stop the lights from switching to the entry/exit levels. 1) A direct link from the MS to the lights (Insteon scene) to be controlled would be created. 2) When the MS sees motion the lights go On 100%. (being seated) 3) A program in ISY is triggered by the MS 'switched On' signal and times out sending a lights Off signal. 4) Another program senses a different mechanism to trigger it and changes the Scene 1) to low lighting settings, and sets the lighting to a very low movie watching level. 5) Any motion detected turns the lights on at the same level they already are at and the humans don't see any change. 6) The movie session is over and the same mechanism as 4) changes the Scene 1) back to 100% lighting settings and ramps the lighting back up to 100% 7) The same program as 3) times out and switches off the lights after all motion has stopped. (people have left the theatre room) Many different mechanisms could be used to control the program 4) which controls the Scene 1). The MS always controls the lighting On cycle. ISY controls how brightly and when the lights turn off. Two ISY programs plus any other programs needed to detect the control mechanism signal. Is that making any more sense?

The lights would always be triggered by the motion detector that is Insteon scene connected to the lights. ISY can control the outcome of any MS to lighting scene, as shown in the original link I supplied. Off, or maybe 1%, should be an option but I have never tested it, only about 10% levels and 100% levels in the same scene, from the same bulbs. Read the thread I linked to.

ISY controls the response of the lights by controlling the scene response from the MS, as desired. MSes have no logic or intelligence. When the movie isn't playing the MS-->Lights are set to full brilliance level for human entrance/exit lighting. When the movie starts playing ISY dims the lights to 0 to 15%, dark red, blue, white, whatever and sets the scene response to the same levels. (unfortunately colours would not be a scene enabled response from Insteon equipment yet). When motion is detected, during the movie, lights would respond with exactly the same levels, already set, and no change would be seen by humans. When the movie is stopped the scene would be set back to entrance/exit the room levels, probably with a long ramp up not to dazzle the humans eyes suddenly. These statuses are available in ISY via drop-ins in Kodi players since about 2015, and many A/V receivers via Nodeservers in Polyglot now. If not available could be done with a a battery powered Insteon MiniRemote, or even a double tap on a Insteon SwitchLinc, a second well placed MS and a hand gesture, an Alexa Echo ("Alexa...turn On movie mode"), or too many other methods to mention. Even a well placed single MS can detect people standing up but not sitting down. I use them in my bedrooms and they only trigger with feet up in thr air or when we stand up. White vinyl tape and lots of trial and error help.

Have to detect the current action of the a/v equipment and adjust the MS scene accordingly. Modern A/V equipment makes that fairly easy in many cases. The MS doesn't differentiate the level of lighting, your ISY does and modifies the Insteon scene.

Is this only to install udx, as it already shows it as runnng?

I think this technique could do your job. Read down where the levels are modified for different times.

I have done the O/S upgrade and udx install/start, but can't figure out how to run line 2 and 3 from @Michel Kohanim 's instructions as shown below. My credentials did not change with this. I cannot see my Polyglot config. The command just hangs on "loading config.....", so I figured I have to complete the instructions from Michel. Here is where my sticks now.

Security motion sensors are very seldom appropriately placed properly to operate normal motion detection for lighting. One is typically covering windows and exterior entrances, while the other is to cover interior entrances and normal travel pathways. I have four that cover the spaces over the beds, in case somebody gets up in the middle of the night, or just going to bed. Lamps vary in brightness, based on time of day, while still being Insteon scene direct connected to the their lamps for speed.

How do I run the download line in FreeBSD? I cannot see any of those setup menus buy polyglot seems to service ISY OK.

Select the program in the Summary tab of the Admin Console. Right click on it and select "Enable Run at Startup". It will then the "If" section. Makes sure your "If" condition, if any, will be true.

bump! anybody?

Is the 90 degree microUSB connector required? Looking at the manual it only seems needed if the back cover is installed. 1) Can the back cover be modified to accept a straight in microUSB connector? 2) On the right angle microUSB connector, does the flat side of the connector face the cable or away from the cable?

You use a scene for the fastest response but you don't send an Off from the MS. Use an ISY program to detect the MS on and after the desired timeout send an off to the scene or better yet, to the device. There are ways to modify the MS--->Lamp scene, using ISY programs, to change brightness (tome of day) and ramp speed or even block it.

IIRC that was only the first purchase. I don't like subscriptions either but it was worth every penny. It is not only for the Alexa voice. It gives remote access without DDNS services (that will charge you) or forwarding ports in your router, and your ISP IP address changes hiding your access and creating security holes.

Nobody cares if it sends off. You only watch the "On"s to trigger programs and scenes. Programs do the Off timing. If the MS sends OFFs also you cannot use Insteon scenes for faster response without the MS interfering with ISY smarts. You could set it to the longest time delay though as a work-around. Your screen shot shows the option.

Oooops reado...My bad. see previous post.

These MSes are very unreliable and you will get false alarms when you are on the other side of the world and it will ruin your vacation. Headlight flashes can do it. Low batteries can do it. I allow one false MS and then reset the timer after about 10 minutes. I get a notification only the first time and then repeat in 24 hours. However, if a second MS sees motion within a timeframe, I then trigger alarms including flashing every light in the house and outside, ringing the doorbell repeatedly, beeping three sonalerts on IOLinks, and having Alexa units speak warnings about Officials being notified.

@bob9119 ISY is a bridge of protocols, device styles, and translates triggers into device operations. ISY is also a home automation system. Alex is a remote control system and doesn't do conditional things, but that is slowly changing also. Eg. Can Alexa do this? If no motion is detected for 120 minutes in the gathering room, or 20 minutes in the mudroom, or 180 minutes in any bedroom, only between 9:00 AM and 11:00 PM, and the gathering room stat is set on vacation mode, notify me of how many minutes the HRV ran, The HVAC ran, humidifier ran, all found indoor and outdoor temperatures, wind speed outside, wine cellar ventilator run times along with humidity in the wine cellar, if any motion has been detected in any room, water has been detected at five different places, any battery devices have reported low batteries, at 8:00 AM each morning via text message and email. EDIT: I misread his posts as "If i were to go the isy route, what good is the isy controller to start with? " instead of his actual words "If i were to go the isy route, what is a good isy controller to start with? " Apologies for jumping too high!

That is exactly what most ISYs do. Java wakes up and stops the process part way through the backup. You may have a bad SD card. I would open a ticket with UDI. They will find it fast. Sent using Tapatalk

Turn off antivirus and firewalls Sent using Tapatalk

Just a note about tracking. With my package, the USPS tracking was mostly on target but somewhat behind and confused about the customs detention. The Canadian postal tracking still showed my polisy in Vancouver, with a week later expected delivery time, while it was sitting on my porch. Sent using Tapatalk

This sounds like an IP address conflict. Is any IP address set to static inside it's ISY settings? IP addresses should be managed by only the central router. Sent using Tapatalk

If this is on a garage door opener, you may need filters and/or new bulbs. Sent using Tapatalk

UDI is using the wrong scaling factor for the window. This is an easy correction in HTML speak but may not ever be fixed in java since they are trying to dump java at the user crowd's request. With Windows 10 this is even worse when window magnifications are enabled.

@arf1410 ...and ISY controlled Scenes (direct linking) allows you to modify the settings easily, any time, without visiting the switch(es). The Insteon network is completely independent of your Ethernet LAN network. ISY can mange it a lot easier than manual linking.