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Funny story about those UV eproms in the late 1970s. I rewrote the bios/os on my 6800 kit and took a chip to a hairdressing school and asked if I could sterilise something in their brush steriliser. My mother went through hairdressing school, decades earlier, and I knew they used them for shared hair equipment. Well it wasn't cleaned off completely and with my tail between my legs I had to go back and ask again. Try explaining an erasable memory chip to a bunch of hairdressers back in about 1976. I didn't dare ever say floppy disk for fear of police action. Of course some hobbiests were only beginning to talk about owning those 8" ones. A few years later my father bought me my own UV eraser lamp for Christmas. IIRC those 1024 byte eproms cost me $100 each and the UV lamp was about the same price. Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

I have never received a clear definition of the method used inside ISY for state triggering. I see two different methods and although the table of usages for each element was denied I believe v5 may have changed how it works. 1, each element has a list of usages and when that element changes value, all usages of that element are searched for logic results (if sections) 2, each time any element changes vslue, every program if section is evaluated 3,on a cyclic time clock basis each program logic section is evaluated and executed if necessary. I worked on a real time system using technique 3 for grid protection, but it took many other cpus to digitise all the hundreds of AC waveforms on a 24 samples per 60Hz cycle, for simultaneous harmonic analysis. Using a 8MHz 486 was still plenty fast enough for this big system handling do much processing without hiccoughs. Spreadsheets work on the same technique with multiple pages of calculations Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

I try to limit my usage of State variables because I figure somewhere in the trigger engine they all have to be searched every event. I run about 60. However I use about three hundred Integer variables because I figure they just sit and take up space and no CPU power. I have about two hundred used for constants to define colours for five types of RGBW bulbs and strips, as well as True, False and dozens of other constants Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

And it shouldn't be forgotten that PSU may be quiet when the ISY load is removed. Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

Must be something wrong with their parsing engine. Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

I consider my watering cycles based on light intensity, written in a PLC style language similar to ISY994, (HC2000), running on a 40MHz 80486 cpu back in the 1980s decade to be automation. It was around but not for the faint of heart. OTOH my in wall motion detectors are home automation also. I guess this comes down to definitions. Does smart automation take two or more logic elements? The wall MSes have sensed motion as well as light levels! Most of my ISY programmes only use one element. [emoji16] Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

I would attempt to start over with the NR. In the old days of computers at times you could get an occasional control character in a string of text and could not detect it or see it. The answer was to start over or delete all fields and retype them. Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

I used a 40% on to off ratio timer for this when it happened to me. The appliance repair supply told me they use 50%. You are not the first A second program trigger by several times of the day ANDed with a program last run + X minutes line that runs the main program works as a watchdog. No run at startup needed and corrects a many times per day as time trigger lines of program.

Do you have the curly braces at each end? Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk

Can you turn the bulb off from a cell phone app? Perhaps the zigbee connection from the Hub to the bulb is bad. Another point is you got back a 200 code which means it communicated with ISY OK, indicating a possible problem with your syntax sent.

As per Gary above. When you use "control /switched" it is never true except when the event happens and the program is being evaluated due to that event. The time frame used will be evaluated as True at 1:00 AM and if Status is True (door open), Then will run. With control / switched that line will be False. When the time frame is evaluated as False at 6:00 AM nobody cares because you have nothing in the Else section. It only acts to be true during it's time frame like a filter for the door opening. Make sense?

I have five on each hand! Gary. Your echo was better looking than you. She must have had $5000 worth of photoshopping!

I have $5000 dollars worth of old car because it does matter to me so it's a reliable Toyota.

For ISY you will have to reverse your sunrise and sunset lines to compensate for the time difference.

Benoit is hard at work upgrading this for us. He injects French devices while testing and they bleed into other spots by mistake, sometimes. This happened last upgrade a year or so ago.

All of the above. I think of the Wait as an oportunity for the ISY engine to stop and think about things. That means other programs get to run as well as evaluate any changes to triggers of the programs. IOW: Programs are unstoppable until they encounters a Wait or Repeat instruction line, at which time the control is handed back to the system for that time duration. A second program can help only if the first program (trigger reception) is disabled. Running the second program will cause the second program to restart anyway.

This a fairly new topic for these units. It may be in your interest to go to BestBuy and pick up an Echo Dot for $49 (or the occasional sale at $39) and try one yourself. I have had four Amazon units for a year or so and just saw a GH the other day at my sister-in-law's for a few hours. I was very impressed with it's capabilities, non-HA features. She can't even program a dumb thermostat but had GH running music and radio stations coming up at will. We had music blaring and GH still understood soft voices across the room. My echo and dot in my gathering room becomes totally deaf if my TV is on with big speakers at normal medium volumes. It's going to be mostly your decision and experiencing both before spending lots more money would be better made by experience. There are a few hear with both so they may chime in here.

Looks like the amazon webpage Alexa access has been locked out to Canadian IP addresses again. It will not take a login anymore. The account name and password can be filled in but all buttons and options are dead and do not respond. hmmmmm.... Google Home is looking better all the time, especially with multiple Echoes and Dots responding simultaneously and just not answering at times. This has become much more frequent lately. Yesterday we did a little experiment and found some Dots would add a certain item to our shopping list while the Echo and Dot across the room would not add it, or even respond when that particular phrase was used. When we removed the "Robin Hood" name from the item it worked flawlessly every time. This happened with one Echo and one Dot. The other two Dots had no problem with the same phrase it at all. Just ignoring and not even acknowledging the request is not a good response I have also noticed the alexa appl on my android phone is taking upward to 90-100 seconds to access my shopping list now. It is becoming a PITA to use. UPDATE: i just tried an old link I had on my browser and for a split-second distinctly saw a webpage with "App is offline" before the same dead login page was came up. UPDATE2:Trying to load it again the full application webpage comes up with the menus down the left side but there is a message in the middle of the the page with seomthing about being offline. The flash was too fast to read, before the dead login page replaces it. I hope this isn't a new attempt to trap out Canadian IP adresses again, making the whole amazon system useless in Canada. I will try to delete my google and amazon cookies as this was a problem in the beginning despite launching from NY state. It garbbed my information from google and knew I was a Canadian resident. I had to use a virgin computer I just purchased, with no google account links installed.

Looks like the amazon webpage access has been locked out to Canadian IP addresses again. It will not take a login anymore. The account name and password can be filled in but all buttons and options are dead and do not respond. hmmmmm.... Google Home is looking better all the time, exsecially with multiple Echoes and Dots responding simultaneously and just not answering at times. Yesterday we did a little experiment and found some Dots would add a certain item to our shopping list while the Echo and Dot across the room would not add it, or even respond when that particular phrase was used. When we removed the "Robin Hood" name from the item it worked flawlessly every time. This happened with one Echo and one Dot. The other two Dots had no problem with the same phrase it at all. Just ignoring and not even acknowledging the request is not a good response

Thanks Benoit! Your efforts and responsiveness are appreciated.

I detect my garage door with an IOLinc and flash a bulb in the corner while the door is open, the whole time. I use a corner lamp that is usually white and flash it red in a throbbing pattern look. If The Gathering Room lights are turned off and the bedroom lights turned on I flash the bedroom lap 100%. With normally only going on about 15% at night a 15 Watt LED bedroom bulb is hard to ignore. During the day if the car hasn't left (detected by a CAO Tag signal lost) I wait about 4 hours to send a notification to our cell phones and email. If the car is detected away I send the notification in about 5 minutes so I don't get too far away before turning back. Occasionally my wife will be out shopping with the car and I will have the garage door open to do yard chores and she gets a notification. I explained the logic and she is fine with that. Good descriptions in the text is paramount. So far I have both home and away situations covered fairly well but there is always room for more Jello!

I am not sure what your problem with this program is as the technique has rolled but... You can combine your programs into one with the ISY parenthesis and logic.' If ( Time is 10:30:00PM OR Time is 11:00:00PM OR Time is 11:30:00PM ) AND Status 'Outdoor Garage Door-Opened' is On Then Send Notification to 'DAD' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This is where it can get tricky if you are not a Boolean guy, but you will get there and be crazy like the rest of us. Watch your bracket placement.

My V2 is getting almost to the point of uselessness with delays. Alexa just goes away a lot and most of the correct responses take 20 to 30 seconds. At times devices are done their slow dimming before verbal responses. I previously deleted all my other skills as I can never remember the language syntax to operate any of them. Good for demo time but then mostly useless so they got deleted and that sped things up to like new speeds again. I have not intentionally added any skills to Alexa so I don't know why it is so slow again. The walk across the room to the light switch has become faster and more reliable lately. I saw a Google Home a few days ago and it is starting to look a lot better for smoothness of operation, understanding of vocals, intelligence, and much, much better sound than my muffled Echo and squawky Dots. It could be blasting out music and hear itself addressed by a quiet voice across the room with her back turned.

I agree. This doesn't sound possible. Program logic is only evaluated when a logic element is changed. Control /Swicthed detection is only ever True while that signal is live. No other signal event can ever true at the same time Time triggers use the same logic as above. Time frames from-to are different and true between the two times. In this logic If ....control device1 is switched on AND ...control device2 is switched on can never be logically true since ISY cannot evaluate two "control/switched" signals at one time. Timed event logic lines act the same. Status should be required with an AND and another control/switched signal to ever become True. Perhaps mazzaro can post his successful program? Right click on the program icon/copy to clipboard. Then paste into the <> initiated symbol text box that pops up.

I agree with the delay sentiments except where they are triggered by an MS. From a manual switch, the half second is insignificant. If it is important then walk to the switch sooner.