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How To: Automate a bathroom exhaust fan based on room humidity
larryllix replied to Tim Wilson's topic in ISY994
I use two CAO Tags for humidity control in my cold cellar. One inside and one outside. Last year, I discovered the need for Dew Point meterng, instead of Relative Humidity. Turns out, I was bringing in lower RH air from outside, but when it cooled to the cold cellar temperature, it would raise the humidity in the cold cellar, giving an unwanted result. Calculating dew point is too complex for ISY programs (using exponiatial functions) , but I have fudged a way to create it accurately, inside usuable ranges. Too bad the Tags support dew point metering, but won't send it. . Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk- 37 replies
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How To: Automate a bathroom exhaust fan based on room humidity
larryllix replied to Tim Wilson's topic in ISY994
Yeah. For in the house the lower may be better but for bathroom or other humidity control? Get the lower one and then use clear salt to check the other end. CAO Tags only take one adjustment anyway. It would be interestingvto see how linear they are with third party testing. My house never gets dowm to 32% Sent from my SGH-I257M using Tapatalk- 37 replies
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How To: Automate a bathroom exhaust fan based on room humidity
larryllix replied to Tim Wilson's topic in ISY994
Nice! Did you know you can get a fairly exact 70% R.H. for calibrating these sensors? There are some available at HomeDepot at 33.3% ? and 70% RH but you can do it much cheaper with table salt if you avoid the type with any sugar or other impurities in it. Do a web search for the technique. It's very easy and cheap involving a smaller container and larger one (or ziploc bag)- 37 replies
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See post #6.
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Only enough to setup the SSID and security, IIRC, then it goes away. I think I have run into it some time back but I could not get past the security. I don't like devices that require hubs and use proprietary protocols and have been going away from MiLight and Philips to Ledenet.
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OK, one more go at it. This is a pretty standard procedure people use. "Turn on backyard floodlights when there is motion" If Status Control 'Back porch motion-Sensor' is Switched On And Status 'Backyard flood lights' is Off And From Sunset To Sunrise (next day) Then Set 'Backyard flood lights' On $backyard_motion = 1 Wait X minutes Set 'Backyard flood lights' Off Else Set 'Backyard flood lights' Off "Turn off backyard floodlights when motion stops" If Status 'Back porch motion-Sensor' is Off And $backyard_motion is 1 And From Sunset To Sunrise (next day) Then Set 'Backyard flood lights' Off $backyard_motion = 0 Using Control Switched, and getting rid of the Off command inside the MS is the usual method. The program, seeing the switched on will retrigger the Then section and also the Wait X hours. The Else section was added to catch the "Until sunrise", just in case the Wait X hours timer ever failed to turn the lights off. It's a backup control, saving potential energy waste. Now for your manual override, there are established methods to do this but with this - You can turn on the light from the switch - You can turn off the light from the switch. However, if you turn on the light from the switch during the night time frame the MS can still activate the program and turn the light off again. For the manual override (just a clue for you) think this way ... - Capture the On in a program and use Disable program "Turn on backyard floodlights when there is motion" - Capture the Off in a program and use Enable program "Turn on backyard floodlights when there is motion"
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Very nice! Good sleuthing! IIRC Port 8899 is the same the MiLight controller hubs use. In the end I think we will find most of these gadgets are made by the same company, or at least the firmware is.
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First program. Change first line to Switched On Get rid of second status line. It is causing the problem and doesn't serve any purpose. When you turn the light On/Off it causes the first program logic to run again and execute Then or Else. Most of us disable the MS off command and let ISY decide when to turn the lights off. It reduces Insteon traffic and stops erroneous and unexpected things from happenning. Many disable the MS night time only and let ISY decide when the lights are needed.
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I don't think this resolves anything for the OP.How does this DMX controller get converted to http/ REST protocol or DMX to RGBW and back. For the rest of the HA stuff, it comes back to... why would one want to convert everything to DMX from any most Etherenet protocols that ISY can put out, and then convert DMX to some other controller protocol driving RGBW LED's? The LEdenet controllers I have (23 units), cost about $11-$12 Plus PS and cables (~ $25 total) and ISY can drive them directly without conversion back and forth to/from DMX.
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In view of the hardware wanted, I guess my path might be bilding a bi-directional bridge with python3 and a RPi. Your time would be great, depending on your skills. I have code written to receive NR sends from ISY in python3 if that would help. Not sure what DMX would look like over Ethernet. http stuff is not real time. I have had trouble with packets passing each other in drivers and routers. SCADA systems have trouble with this as well so event are time stamped so they have a recording of the actual event time but that doesn't help real-time events. DMX must have this worked out somehow or not be Ethernet channel protocol sharable.
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I prefer the control of having ISY as a central control.The Insteon SwitchLinc Dimmer is plug and play with ISY, and can create 6 different commands, natively. With some thought another 4 or 6 commands can be extracted from combinations..eg. Off command while already Off etc.. Just need to get control of each lighting device from ISY using Network resources, preferably without a bridge computer such as RPi. ISY is your friend to put it all together.
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I don't use skills to operate lights directly, only via ISY I have never seen an Alexa skill that will do colour, yet, and I need to operate three different brands of lights with matching hues. Even Philips bulbs use different hues parameters between their Bloom and Hue bulbs. I use ISY variable charts to match them up. So for one uniform colour around the room, I use Alexa. For varios white only levels I use the SwitchLinc on the wall. For different holiday colour themes, I use the SwitchLinc on the wall and ISY sets the festive theme automatically or I can force the colour them with Alexa. "....Alexa! Turn On Halloween lights!" as well as double tap off, on the Switchlink dimmer, during the week before Halloweeen.... gets me orange and dark purple lights around the room.
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...."Alexa!...Turn on mauve lights!" Five Hues, five MiLight bulbs, and four LEDenet controlled RGBWW strips all turn to the deepest beautiful mauve colour, all around the room, You won't need to dim the colours (what for?) but you will want to use at least three levels of white. I use a SwitchLinc dimmer to controll all my settings. No wall control will natively control three different protocols. I have remotes and apps for the different brands but never use them, once the novelty wore off. First thought, would be an old Android phone with an app running, mounted in a holder, on the wall. Second, would be an Insteon 4 rockt keys, mini-remote (16 commands) or KPL, for any combination you can think of. Dedicate a few functions to levels, and a few functions to select colours.
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For sure, but then when editing programs, I sometimes forget to start the program again. I've been caught a few times now. Right now I rely on multiple times as I cannot depend on the "Run at startup" option. The usual fix is to add another program that kickstarts all these programs (Then). Another easy to forget item though. Hopefully UDI will add this option Run at startup, "If", "Then", "Else", to alleviate this problem.
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That would be every 7 minutes due to a syntax error in the ISY syntax. This is just to call attention to users attempting to make time critical programs. Should have been somethig like Repeat and Wait 6 Minutes. Also the OP wanted 24/7 so he can remove the "to 12:00 PM" line. I like to use several OR times durig the day to restart any Repeat loop stalling, sooner, ie...when you edit the program, or the power cycles to ISY.
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I have many of the LEDenet controllers you purchased. All you need is a 3A+ 12V power supply, a pigtailed power supply female inline connector, RGBWW LEDs strips, a pigtailed flat ribbon cable with 5 pin connector to match, and a few Network resources in ISY. For mobile device control, download the free app for MagicHouse UFO and select the 5 channel option. The Wall panel doesn't seem to be compatible with any of the cheap controllers and certainly is not required for that LED controller. I don't see what the the 2.4GHz protocol will support documented on a quick look, unless it is some form of DMX controller.
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Sorry, I have no idea what that chart is supposed to represent. I do not know what FFT stands for. Digital scopes can sample every X waveforms and unless you are watching it would be gone, as with an analogue scope but with missing information but... Yes, it would seem to have to be repetitive, I agree. When you have third harmonics mixed with the fundamental it not only off centre peaks your sinewave peak but it shifts your zero crossing of the voltage. IIRC Insteon works on this zero crossing, for timing, just before the following zero crossing. You didn't say whether you have HID lighting. These make third harmonics and could be a problem. To see that on a voltage waveform that distinct means high impedance, to the source, (no absorption) or very strong third harmonic currents. Just pulling at straws here. For firmware suspicions, I would factory reset your ISY and restore your location, password, time zone, and backed up image. It's quite easy and painless. After mixing your UI and firmware version who knows? With your current problem you are going to revert back to your last good backup...yuk. I mixed v5 with v4 UI once and only a factory reset got me out of the weird stuff that followed. You obviously have the background and equipment to make this work. Keep on truckin'!
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Unfortunately scope traces only show repetitive waveforms well. Glitches and spikes hardly ever show up unless they are repetitive. Scopes do not do a good job for this and it can take more specialise harmonic analysis or noise analysers. The newer digital scopes may only show a waveform every few, and never display random disturbances, with their sampling techniques. Your first trace shows the 60Hz full of harmonics with its lumpy and bumpy sine wave. The lopsided wave peaks indicate third harmonics. Do you have HID lighting? It's been a while since I have been here. The clipped technique was cool for zero crossing.
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Maybe I have told you this before but, you have classic bad neutral symptoms. We have found customer services with neutrals poorly, or not even connected by electricians, to the grid supply transformer and the earth / ground was carrying the neutral current. This causes all kinds of noise in the home, usually indicated by lights that are too bright, flickering, or too dim, and sometimes affected when another load is turned on. In some areas it's possible to have the utilty come in, and place recording instruments at your service panel. These may not be advanced enough to find noise though, but could trigger service personnel to check all neutral connections between your panel and the transformer neutral bushing.
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FanLinc / KPL6 integration with Amazon Echo / Alexa
larryllix replied to kzboray's topic in Amazon Echo
I find any time I have multiple devices with the same first word the re-ask is a problem. It seems that when the following words are not completely clear, or even clear, Alexa will ask again and when given the exact same phrase, is OK with that. But I have found the more successful syntax is ...Alexa...turn on/off xxxxxx. The syntax ...Alexa... Turn xxxxxx on/off malfunctioned about 50% of the time, for me. The end of the device name is harder to parse and parsing would have to be done back to front then. -
Don't upgrade your ISY, change your admin console to the matching version. Go to your java console and clear the cache including applets. Also delete your admin.jnlp file. Now go to the announcement of the version you have installed in ISY and click on the appropriate link that will install your matching admin console. Then when they match, you can backup and upgrade, repeating the above.
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Your UI and firmware versions do not match.
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FanLinc / KPL6 integration with Amazon Echo / Alexa
larryllix replied to kzboray's topic in Amazon Echo
This sounds like the high medium and low words are confusing the parser next to On.. Try ....Alexa. Turn On Fan Low -
Maybe they have provided a method of support for their fine res screens but I see apps (ISY) having to build in custom sizes of fonts and that shouldn't have to be built into every app. It would seem with this generation of unlimited hardware nanotechnology Font size, in pixels, needs to be abandoned. Imagine an app knowing font sizes for every resolution of device based on the old dot matrix printer heads? We are doing that now. Seems like an absolute size of character should be in order and the OS converts it to whatever is needed to display it that big. OTOH the next step would be angular size at your eyeballs and now the OS also needs to know how far your chair is away.
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ISY and Phillips Hue Integration Step-By-Step (For dummies...like me)
larryllix replied to DualBandAid's topic in ISY994
Yeah. That string of confused numbers must be the account or username inside the Hue Hub. I followed somebody's instructions here and the example, to get it going, was to use ISY994user, so I did that. Since it worked I had no reason to ever go back and edit it. I have a hard enough time remembering stuff when I can't cut'n paste text.