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I totally agree with the concept put forth by @MrBillabove. I believe ISY has the most power of any device and allow ISY controll all groupings. My ISY is not allowed to control any device directly. By allowing ISY total control over everything it is easy to insert some local lockout, or conditional logic, based on other factors that Alexa will never know about. ISY knows how to combine logic. As a side note: I mostly control programs in my ISY labelled XXX Lamp.select. Now I can use ...Alexa...turn on/off XXX Lamp.select My ISY can now decide if it wants to allow it, delay it, operate multiple devices, operate WiFi devices etc.. etc.. The syntax is the same for all devices...so far. Even A/V volumes with ...Alexa...turn on louder ...Alexa turn on softer My bank of select programs, mostly operates a state variable and another bank of programs does all the dirty work depending on the value injected into that state variable. This makes independence for later modifications very easy. Multiple programs can operate that grouping of 10-30 lights with one variable save. Now that I am partially moved over to polisy and running two logic systems it has been a blessing as it is easy to transmit a single variable to the slave polisy and have it do all the dirty work for dozens of WiFi bulbs. ISY has all the Insteon stuff and inputs yet while the polisy has all the Ethernet stuff, as a half way point.

I would not share devices between two PLMs. Only because it is easy to get confused and make a mess that gets difficult to straighten out. Currently I am running an ISY and a polisy and although I have dumped all my code over I have disabled all my program folders and only enabled certain non-Insteon functions ie: Ethernet based inputs and system things like time clocks from ISY's internal system functions. I have recently written some NRs and syncing programs that write value updates into my polisy variables eg: $sHouse.vacation,and $sHouse.occupied. I will slowly be adding more as I can depend on the polisy firmware for al my functions. Then most of the code is written into the old ISY and can be detached easily. Each step of the way must be thought out very carefully as you can make a mess that can be hard to straighten out. Best of luck. Try to keep it to devices separate from essential functions. Otherwise you will have multiple links to each PLM that need to be cleaned up later and every Restore you do will erase the other PLM's links which will be quite hard to fix.

Likely the links in the wetvac OnOff module have been corrupted. Try a restore of the device a retest. If no success, try a factory reset of the device and the Restore, retest. Have you reset the LD? They are only good for one shot before human reset. Also have you checked the circuits inside? The they may have been exposed to water. Is your heartbeat detection program working properly?

Is the device on the same powerline phase (120V leg) as the PLM is? Do you have any bridging between your powerline phases? Have you factory reset the device before attempting to link it with your PLM? What ISY firmware version are you running and what UI are you running?

I went through this morning and corrected all my endians from my cross load (ISY backup= polisy Restore) If the number is positive subtract 256 x 256 x 256 If the number is negative subtract 256 x 256 x 256 then add 256 to get the proper result. This got my hundreds of $constant (Integer) variable values back and working. I wrote a small ISY program to do that but I had to to change the variable names for each manual run of the conversion program. @Michel KohanimPlease give us "indexed variables"!! . One polisy program run could have fixed all Endian transfer problems in one foul swoop, right inside my polisy. Got my CAO Tags KumoApps double reporting to both ISY and polisy, along with many self triggered slave ISY programs calculating more convenient values like dewpoints from them.

This sounds like your PLM may be shot. You may want to get a new one on order, and if the existing one comes back, you will have a spare. If not you will be up and running with a bad one you can consider repairing. In the meantime, you could factory reset your PLM, and then do a PLM Restore in the admin console.

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Thanks for that. What I was really hoping for was information on direct comms between Zwave devices...mostly MSes and Switches/Dimmers. If there is such a thing. I have only a dozen Zwave devices I have fallen into that I have never hooked up to a spare ISY with a series 300 board in it. 700 dongle is waiting to get plugged into my polisy once I can move over without having to go back. Insteon devices are very clumsy to move around with their absolute enrollment via physical buttons. For now I will continue to use the Insteon items I own for lighting (with MSes) mostly, and slowly start to move over to WiFi and Zwave for other items. Insteon has been acting creepy and...well you know, so I don't want to ride the wave into the predictable abyss coming. I have about 40 WiFi devices already and other than needing a router with lots of NAT space (always hidden from public knowledge), and needing some custom bridge software to "group" lights into "scenes", WiFi works more reliably, and faster, than other protocols. Now that the 802.11ax is becoming popular I would hope some of these WiFi devices would adopt it for better arbitration of devices in APs.

I would also be interested in the how and what for Zwave scenes. I understand Zwave devices have some type off scene connection between devices or common grouping method. As @grossmdwas asking. How have people's experience, especially with the last method mentioned by @asbril, worked out? Is it fast enough etc..?

KPL general backlighting can be set via ISY program lines. Individual KPL button backlighting can only be set On and Off via Insteon Scenes created to set each button's backlighting. Bit of a shortsightedness by Insteon but... Create a scene for each button and then have your programs call the scenes as required.

Thanks. I realised the conflict after I did it. Just pulled in a backup from my ISY into my polisy after starting over and realising this would take me a month. Makes a mess of the variable values but they are all installed by name, NR installed, programs installed = no PLM so lot of patching to do when that happens. Will still take a week or so of patching but not the month I was looking at before. If the full and proper backup and restore happens, all my ISY elements should line up and fall into place later. Went through and installed conditions in almost every folder so I can enable them one at a time later. If $cTrue is not $cTrue System clocks and calendar seem to be working into variables. Now waiting for my USB Zwave to be drivered up by UDI. I bought the SiLab dongle. I guess I could install one of my spare serial PLMs or better yet, my USB PLM. I almost forgot about that one. Things are clicking away now. BTW: Makes you wonder about all these shipping delay excuses. DigiKey.com shipped my SiLab Zwave dongle late Tues from MN/ND. Night about 10:30 PM. It went to Memphis, then to Mississauga (by Toronto) and was delivered to me Thursday about 12:30 noonish (about 20 hours) for $8, cheapest shipping. Unheard of before in my 70 years. Usually those things take about 7 to 15 days. Go pandemic!

Did the trick! Thank you very much!!!! Now to tinker How long before we have USB Zwave sticks in beta to play with? ( iknow...push..push)

Just started setting up my polisy/ISY. Tried to change the port address to 80 to avoid the https flagging constantly and now ISY Launcher cann't find it. When the address is ADDED to the launcher it cannot find it. I figured I created a conflict with my polyglot so I stopped my polyglot service but to no avail. How do I modify some setup file to set my polISY back to the 8080 port or 8443 port?

I doubt they would be exchanging any binary data at the ISY language levels, python3 levels, C, or 99% of all languages today. Even the backups are all using variable values represented by normal text representation of the numerical value. Coders using languages, except for the lowest levels, don't care about how binary data is stored or the internal register structures of CPUs. If they do the language is operating at a very low level machine code style.

Thanks! I do understand all that but don't understand how they can even make these 1/8? wave antennae work, not cook the containers. and yet still get that kind of performance out of them.

The fact you crossed the road is based on the majority of opinions only. Science works this way. When a larger majority of people, say from a different angle agree you didn't cross the road it will now be the new factual information. Science works this way, and science also contains it's own disclaimers to agree with this fact that it is never absolute or static.

I wouldn't have thought the endian thing would not be any problem unless code is being written in assembler. Not sure about some C(++) code. Most higher level languages don't make the coder care about machine specific idiosyncrazies. (pundle intentional)

Thanks for that! If the newer updates makes the SiLab unit non-compatible with polisy drivers, do you know the version can be downgraded later? Is it just a matter of saving the older version and dumping it into the stick?

"Facts" when the majority opinions agree on any statement or a common element of any statement. This term is often used by those wanting their opinions to appear to have backing by others and to be accepted. Just sayin'

Strange! amazon.com still shows the same "not available" for me. (Yes I refreshed the page) Going to their store in amazon.com and clicking on their link it shows the same "not available" and "we don't know if this will ever return". This may possibly be because they have a store on amazon.ca and it is available there also. Much more expensive but usually after the shipping charges from the USA by amazon.com, it costs more to buy there anyway. Then warranties are void, and returns typically cost more than the product is worth. No matter. I can get it locally anyway with actual free shipping. Thanks asbril!

The Zooz is claiming programmable also. My guess would be they are clones except for possibly the antenna design. But what is a 2" antenna worth anyway?

Exactly. Now I see 250' indoors and 1000' outdoors??? Would be nice to have a 2-3' USB cable on it for vertical or higher up mounting though. Sticking between a metal case and a solid (concrete?) wall can't be much good for RF propagation.

Zooz is claiming 1000' range while the Silicon Labs claims 100m = 331' ?

Here is the one Michel linked to. Sold out.

@Michel Kohanimany point in UDI getting a mass buy of Zwave sticks and reselling them to keep uniformity, ease of purchase, and good pricing? Also, are both PLM and Zwave stick going to fit into the top and bottom USB hardware ports without an extender or splitter? UPDATE: amazon.com is sold out of the Zooz Zwave stick+. However Canadian amazon is not yet. Aartech.ca has a Homeseer Smart Stick+ and Zwave Zwave Interface. I don't know if it is compatible or even similar though. Looks similar.