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Apparently there are two BIOS chip sockets with a selector switch beside them. Original sounds welded in and the other replacement coming has a socket for it. When the update software script runs it attempts t run some erasing software for a 4KB space, then tries 8K, 16K, 32K and 64KB? When they all fail, the software script gives up. Mine reports there is no more space left in the chip...it's bricked, so a new chip is being sent. I am not sure if the chip size was just too small to hold the replacement BIOS firmware until burned into the eprom or how that works. I think once you get v5.4.1 installed and your BIOS isn't upgraded the interlocking UDI tried to install locks you out. With a good BIOS one should be able to stop all the IoP stuff and reflash the bios from there, or downgrade the IoP firmware. Mine had way too many serious bugs to be kept though.

Make sure you do not have the version 100 of the BIOS chip. I have one polisy bricked here, waiting for a new BIOS chip, and a used polisy that UDI got working, but it slowly degraded, losing it's UUID, then Port won't connect and PG2/PG3 will not connect, and later it stopped accessing my PLM properly. I bought it used so who knows, even though the BIOS chip shows updated. Currently going back to ISY994 but cannot get install script to show the polyglot port number to set it up on a RPi again. 3000 doesn't works despite all indications it is running and should. 48-60 hours of hair pulling has me out of the polisy game for a long time now. I've had enough.

Anybody seeing their polisy uuid reseting to 00 00:00:00:00 01 ? When this happens ISY portal disconnects because it connects by uuid. Michel fixed that with a udx update or correction but it has since gone back to the 01 again.... on both polisys too. Too weird. My bad chip spare polisy has just been sitting untouched. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

Thanks! Sounds exactly what I was seeing. Michel remote sessioned in, and found a bricked BIOS chip (old version 100). However I have a spare polisy and have flipped over to it (Michel did). Works fairly well but am currently trying to get PG3 working, and have given up with it refusing to add or find any ISY, and refusing to accept and new settings due to "no backend connection. Settings unchanged". I tried Edge browser and things seemed a little different, so I disabled firewall things for Firefox (GD MS!). Didn;t make any difference, so far. I am currently deleting PG3 and attempting to return to PG2, where it worked well for a few years now. I wonder if IoP v5.4.1 will allow that at all.

Thanks! "Version 100 is old and needs to be updated"

I upgraded via the SSH sudo..... method. Total crash. Currently I have no access to IoP. I can access polisy admin console page but it always just shows it cannot access ISY and creds should be updated from polisy. After attempting that a few times, it rejects connections completely. Polisy has been power cycled a few times, polyglot has been rebooted about 7-8 times. ISY finder finds ISY at :8080 only but will not display falldown connection options. I am stuck. After power cycling, polisy left green LED comes on immediately and then after about 60 seconds, polisy makes some grinding noises and then the two rightmost LEDs begin fast blinking. Single poke of reset doesn't change anything. @Michel KohanimHelp!

I am about to dive into the same scenario, possibly. After reading so many disasters in forums for the last 40 years, I am really trying to avoid this problem. I have excluded my Home Automation system from the sale, despite the barking of the Realestate Agent. My excuse is, it is too complex for the average person but if they want to make a fuss, wanting it, I will restrict the amount of hours of help they get. It is still attractive,as a bargaining chip but only to certain techie people, and then they usually don't want somebody else's mess.

I also find the search here almost useless. Any posts, more than a few months old, are basically never found in searches. There are some posts that I remember vivid details of, and still cannot find them. Let the ridicule begin because I have problems with it to. ?

When I really need to access wild buttons in my admin console, I minimize my admin console and right click on my desktop to set my Windows 10 screen magnification back down to 100%. When I am done squinting, I reverse the adjustment back to 150% so I can read other screen things. This has only been a problem since about 2006 and should be fixed any time. Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk

No! What we need is a separate forum for users that have other real lives, needing some answers, and let the know-it-all bullies ridicule the remaining users suckers pissants that don't think exactly the same way they do. Geeshhh.. How to wreck a good forum, and destroy the future potential of a decent product? Just keep disrespecting the users away with ridicule, instead of guidance, and maybe we can all have to switch to the more costly protocols being promoted here, when ISY / polisy loses one of it's best features, the friendly support people here, formerly talked about elsewhere. @Michel Kohanim

I haven't done any testing since the _03 upgrade. I was busy trying to find proof it installed at all. My routines still appear to be functioning despite several ISY and polisy SSH reboots, trying to make the update version display somewhere.

I have never had to redo anything inside the alexa app after many reboots and power cycling polisy yet. But hey! as you pointed out, things change. I will watch for that, and thanks for the warning, and the fix, temporary or not. Fixing these routines takes me about 30 to 45 minutes, each glitch, so I try to avoid disabling my skill as much as possible.

It seems (by logic) in the end this was all caused by Amazon "blacklisting" some device packets from ISY Portal, so that no routines using them would function again until refreshed. That is a whole 'nuther kettle of fish. It doesn't sound like ISY was even involved since it doesn't talk to Amazon directly, but through the ISY Portal bridge system. Sounds like we still need fixes at the ISY Portal and Amazon end. "You send me bad packets and I will destroy ignore you"

Maybe you missed my previous posts. That is what I already reported before updating my IoP version. However, I have been using "Messaging" for years and it is listed under the IFTTT title with the other action techniques. Now, I think we have been reading this incorrectly! IFTTT was formerly in a solid grey band, as a title, above all the action methods listed below it. Now IFTTT appears as just another entry with a distinctly different font! grrrrrr.... I believe I have been trying to tell @oberkcthis (falsely) based on the old screen layout that has fooled many people. OK I take back all the IFTTT crap I have been spouting. Most of us are not likely using IFTTT at all. Just a bad app screen layout. Sorry for that confusion.

Thanks! I used pkg version | grep isy Yes, I am running v5.4.0_3

OK Thanks. They definitely have changed the app a fair bit and I have trouble finding these items again. I set most of my routines up a few years ago. I have some that use "Say" and IFTTT for multi-speakers but looking at them again didn't reveal where IFTTT was used. I did find the small IFTTT title at the top of the bottom grouping of outputs though. BTW: I did try your disable / enable skill with the shortest time period I could manage and it didn't disconnect my pseudo devices for the routines. Nice find! I wonder if the timing is related to the success of this. I am still running IoP v5.4.0. This has been a PITA for a long time with routines and I have placed several support complaints with amazon over the last few years only to achieve no response, yet....but things do seem to clear up after each complaint...so far. hmmmm...maybe that is not completely true. IIRC they responded a few months later once. Also. I have now tried the sudo service....etc to update my IoP but I cannot find any trace of any firmware updated version. Is there some place to find a clue what actual version is installed? My Help | About pulldown and ISY Finder always show "5.4.0" Thanks again!

Only one speaker can be involved with "Say". To announce on your selection of multiple speakers Alexa uses IFTTT. Check the title of the sections above your selections where it is revealed. Some of the menus have changed recently. I don;t even see "make an announcement" anymore???

I haven;t found any other way to make an announcement on more than one Alexa speaker without using their IFTTT connection. For just one speaker, it is a different data pathway, and doesn't require IFTTT. Note that IFTTT isn't something the user sets up. It is built in to the Alexa app software and the user may not even be aware of using it.

You don't seem to understand how many Routines function, and also haven't read the responses to this where people have told you they have tested all the ISY components as functioning right into the Alexa software.

Read the posts in this thread. ISY and ISY Portal are not involved.

Amazon Routine announcements require IFTTT. None of my 40 routines function right now, despite all just being rebuilt (replaced the skill devices that were removed by disabling the skill) again. All pathways have been tested and function perfectly from ISY to voice output. The Routines are not being trigger by tested and proven alexa devices.

MY guess it is the IFTTT connection is broken between amazon and IFTTT. Routines using devices that have been deleted cannot repair themselves to the correct device without human intervention. There seems to be some confusion between devices and routines here. Sure devices will reappear when you enable the skill to connect with them all again, but the routines will have had no trigger device and remain that way until human intervention. I have used three different browsers and the amazon webpages have never supported or even displayed Routines. They must be setup via the mobile app.

All my routines use IFTTT. That may be the difference keeping a routine's trigger with it's missing trigger device. When you remove devices (as in disabling the skill) routine triggers based on those devices become blank and the routine gets disabled. I may try this again later today but I just finished rebuilding all my routines yesterday from this same technique. It takes about 30 minutes of intense finger poking. Routines were never available on a Windows browser, only the mobile apps. I have Alexa vocals that send out test vocal responses as I have had to rebuild these routines dozens of times now, each time devices are deleted by disabling the skill.

Each time you disable the skill, all the devices are removed. When you re-enable the skill, an automatic discover is performed and they re-appear. However my routines are always destroyed and they must be rebuilt and re-enabled. I have done this many times and routines must always be rebuilt.

If you disable the ISY skill in the Alexa app, all your devices will disappear and all your routines will then need to be rebuilt, selecting the triggers again, and then re-enabled. I have done this many times in the past. Despite the trigger points in Alexa fully functioning they will still not trigger the routines. This happened a few years ago and Amazon support did something that fixed it back then.