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I've got 2 of them. They see Insteon commands for on/off by seeing LED go on and off but relay does not activate. They see that sensor has been closed by LED but do not send Insteon. Anyone fix these? For postage I'll give away.

On occasion I go back and look at forum (thanks all) and see if there are better ways to accomplish tasks that I may have used brute force to accomplish (as a programmer from a few years ago, the ISY mixture of trigger and If structure took me forever to appreciate subtle usage -- love it now). Following is one of my first ISY programs sets (actually recall more Michel than me). It uses a motion sensor to turn on a light outside a garage door but prevents program from turning it if off if it was already on due to fact that I had turned it on at switch. Continued motion resets timer so that light will remain on for 10 minutes after last motion detected. It was before variables as you can see they use a program as a variable -- thought I had found and updated all these. Garage:Fence Motion If Control 'Garage / Garage:Fence Motion Sensor' is switched On And Program 'Garage:Entry Door Status' is False Then Set 'Garage / Garage:Outside Entry Door' 100% Wait 10 minutes Set 'Garage / Garage:Outside Entry Door' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ------ Garage:Entry Door Off If Control 'Garage / Garage:Outside Entry Door' is switched Off Then Run Program 'Garage:Entry Door Status' (Else Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ---- Garage:Entry Door On If Control 'Garage / Garage:Outside Entry Door' is switched On Then Run Program 'Garage:Entry Door Status' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----- Garage:Entry Door Status - Variable only If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') The only issue and I mean small issue is the delay between motion detected and light on. Could I use an Insteon scene to turn light on (assuming motion sensor does not send an off) and adapt programs as follows? Changes (not correct syntax yet) are in red. In essence, is there a difference for the two programs tracking the on and off state of the light based on if it is turned on by the ISY program or the light is turned on by scene membership? Garage:Fence Motion If Control 'Garage / Garage:Fence Motion Sensor' is switched On And Variable Garage_Entry_Door_Status = 0 Then ----light would be turned on by scene membership---- Wait 10 minutes Set 'Garage / Garage:Outside Entry Door' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ------ Garage:Entry Door Off If Control 'Garage / Garage:Outside Entry Door' is switched Off Then Set Variable Garage_Entry_Door_Status to 0 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ---- Garage:Entry Door On If Control 'Garage / Garage:Outside Entry Door' is switched On Then Set variable Garage_Entry_Door_Status to 1 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') --- Variable Garage_Entry_Door_Status defined as state variable

My point exactly. Best technical and support from UDI and ISY makes SH tech tolerable.

I've had it in place about 1 year since they were introduced. Failed 4 times in last 6 weeks. ISY PLM restore gets it back so just got RMA for replacement. UDI version still on radar? This makes me want to pull all this high tech out of walls throw it away. If it were not for ISY, I'd be done with SH.

Very willing to test and report. Just putting out feeler to see if any bad results already known. HomeDepot will always take back so no real risk.

Also considering following for non dimmable locations (basement, attic) http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-100W-Equivalent-Soft-White-A19-LED-Light-Bulb-4-Pack-455675/205887197

I stocked up on incandescent bulbs so I could switch after LED technology was FULLY proven to be dimmable and work with Insteon (no flicker or noise injection) and not cost more than house [emoji3] I've got several 60w Cree bulbs in 3 versions and couple 100w and they are good for over 6 months. I want more 100w bulbs but Cree 100w still overly expensive for my logic compared to recent 60w versions. Does anyone have experience with following: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-100W-Equivalent-Soft-White-Household-A19-Dimmable-LED-with-Warm-Glow-Light-Effect-Light-Bulb-4-Pack-459107/206517168 Thanks

I have a PC away from PLM and near an access point. I run console while adding remotelinc with level 3 event viewer. By changing position and angle of remotelinc, I can see sweet spot as events start scrolling...

You are missing the fact that you will need to install micro modules and/or fanlinc in the electrical box above the ceiling fan. The KPL will control them via insteon scenes created between KPL and devices instead of via a load wire You'll be able to control other insteon devices with other 4 buttons using similar method of scene or programs.

If combined with variable condition as original program, will it be reevaluated ie no longer be true?

Just a guess. ... (Change program for a time few minutes in your future). ..... is program reevaluated and no longer true interrupting 5 minute wait before anything actually happens? Watch as time passes new time set above to see if it stays in running then state for one minute. Running then simply does so without condition and would not be subject to revaluation from guess above. If so, you could break into two program where one serves as if trigger than runs then other program that has all actions but no actual if statement

Thanks Lee. it does work the issue is with all the activity and devices, there is significant time lag between the button press and the Wi-Fi controlled device responding. I need to be more patient.

Stu, I am missing something. I'm running 4.2.30 and I only have options for "Status" and "Control" in drop down list for conditions "Sense" is not listed. Does that mean I don't have any sense? Thanks

Stu, What does "Create a program using Sense" mean -- Scenes maybe?

I've tried both ISY Scenes Yes

I created a scene that includes KeypadLinc D button and Remotelinc D button as Controller. My desire is pressing All On button of the Remotelinc to have a program triggered because the KeypadLinc D button is switched on. Pressing "All On" the Remotelinc does cause the KeypadLinc D button to come on it but the program (sends a network resource that turns on an ip controlled light) watching KeypadLinc D does not execute. I'm guessing this is some sort of limitation but hoping someone knows how to make it work.

If standard Tstat then venstar T5800 is great. It is controlled via Wifi. Today They work with standard ISY but require VenLink software listed in forum under 3rd party section running on RPi or a PC. I have 3 and can only say great things.

They are very finicky. I worked several hours to find that holding remotelinc in my hand at specific angle to access point made it add and update 100%. The process involved putting it into link mode., adding device with event viewer turned on at level 3, holding and rotating RL very slowly about 5 feet from AP and watching event viewer for messages to start flowing. Not very high tech but it works. I have couple very early generation RL and they work fine with latest ISY FW.

Syncrolinc work great. I have one on washer, dryer, and dishwasher.

At least in short term, I'm going to repurpose original T1800 thermostats. I'll probably move to a 1-wire system when time permits again. Thanks to all for the advice. Paul

Teken: I may try 1-wire out but was just thinking I still have Venstar T1800 thermostats (thought I'd find them a good home with need for full HVAC control) with later version adapters. Am I missing something or could they be used with a 24VAC? power supply and all other leads unconnected? Paul Edit. Already have video recording PC (Run io_guys great xxxLink programs there) so going to focus on adding 1-wire since he already has program in place.

No, Just new version of PLM attached to ISY. I've switched back to using local scenes but in future knowing the cool set point has been reached is not enough. I need to be able to track critical temperature which are higher. I will install SH power supplies so it's not first issue of discussion.. For background, ... I've got a small av closet. When cool set point is reached a scene turns on extra airflow. If temperature continues to rise and gets toward critical., I will turn entire rack off with on/0ff module. I've been off for holidays and putting in HA investment time since I Don't have time to work on this at other times of year. Thanks for you help. At this point I'm concerned this is not right solution. It looked like when plugged in 2441zth reported temp at some rate of change or worst case I could have started querying every 15 minutes once it got to cool set point. At this point current temp is almost never there.

I can't get consistent results so I'm going to contact SH. After installing their specified power supply. Their Doc states that in wired mode it should not be providing these results.

As suspected (but can't confirm why), the current temp was blank this morning with only known activity being 3am query all. In addition, couple more tests show after power cycle of thermostat revealed that ISY was somethimes not seeing Mode of OFF so I added a Wait and Query as seen above in green.

Cant believe I'm working on this tonight. Thank god wife is binge watching a new program on DVR Finally got something that appears to work with one big caveat (maybe specific to my case) -- RF range of Thermostat to Access Point must be in inches once the batteries are removed and running on AC power supply. I've measure voltage at 5.11 vdc on power supply so should be good. Also, only tested a few times so looking for insights. One more note -- I'll be curious what happens at 3am query all. Does anyone think ISY is aware the device is swapping from battery to powered device which could have implications with the way it is handled? Program enabled to run at startup If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Run Program 'HVAC:Basement Sync Thermostat With ISY' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') 'HVAC:Basement Sync Thermostat With ISY' If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Set 'Basement / Basement:TStat Power Supply' Off Wait 20 seconds Set 'Basement / Basement:TStat Power Supply' On Wait 10 Seconds Set 'Basement / Basement:Thermostat' Query Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Program that runs to force thermostat into Heat Mode If $Thermostat_Basement_Mode_Manual_Set is 1 And Status 'Basement / Basement:Thermostat' is not Mode Heat Then Wait 30 seconds Set 'Basement / Basement:Thermostat' Mode Heat Wait 5 Seconds Set 'Basement / Basement:Thermostat' Query --- Query command required to get mode change above to reflect on ISY and trigger next program and stop this program Wait 10 seconds Send Notification to 'JPaulText' content 'HVAC Wireless Issue' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Program to set Heat Mode Set Point If Status 'Basement / Basement:Thermostat' is Mode Heat Then Wait 10 seconds Set 'Basement / Basement:Thermostat' 68° (Heat Setpoint) Wait 5 seconds Set 'Basement / Basement:Thermostat' Query Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Program to attempt to correct not responding and report it if still bad If Status 'Basement / Basement:Thermostat' is not Responding Then Wait 15 seconds Run Program 'HVAC:Basement Sync Thermostat With ISY' (Then Path) Wait 1 minute Send Notification to 'JPaulText' content 'HVAC Wireless Issue' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')