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I had been setting thermostat mode based on outside temp so once outside temp was less than or greater than specified values each subsequent WeatherBug poll triggered program which set mode same to its current value. I knew it occurred but since only once per hour was not concerned. However, looked like it might be triggering phantom values so I've optimized my tstat programs using variables to only set mode when it actually changes. I'm still getting phantom set point values (255 last night) so I now believe bogus values can occur following any mode change .... to same or different mode.

Michel: I know it has been a while but, I wanted to clean up several things before I took you up on offer to look at error log. I've implemented DSCLink (working great since Firewall rules updated) and revised all external ports out of range of normal ports. Log has been sent via email and contains a couple days. ? Thanks, Paul

I went to ISY console and set DON. Can same be done so regular log has more details without having event viewer open?

Michel: Nothing different in HW, links, and programs. Just to be clear the first instance I listed was a cool set point and second instance (which occcured last month) was showing temp status of 107 but not a set point. Also, do you have any thetoy on 16 degree phantom entries like one above. Obviously 16 is significant as 10 hex... Are these just standard replies. Don't recall you describing.. As always thanks for support. Paul

Thanks. Now if I can figure out how to determine if WB station has stopped reporting good values. I do receive txt in morning that tells me ISY is connected to network.

I have three thermostats (two are the one day programable and one is sevenday programable with optional humidity sensor installed -- per previous posting links table is same for all) and so far I've only seen phantom entries where isy would show 16 degrees but thermostat was correct and the number of these has gone down to one or less per day since I created variable to track thermostat mode and not update again until it changes (was sending mode on almost every weatherbug poll as temp would change). 36 times last month 16 degres showed up after a Cool set point but only start looking recently via eyes and programs so not sure when it was actally showing up at ISY. Example follows: Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Sun 2012/07/01 10:58:36 AM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 16? Sun 2012/07/01 10:58:36 AM System Log There was an entry last month where status was 107 degrees -- probably not real since we were home and it would've been hot as hell (it was that hot outside on a few days). Small section of log follows: Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status Off Sat 2012/07/07 01:34:30 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Sat 2012/07/07 01:34:30 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 76? Sat 2012/07/07 01:34:51 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 49% Sat 2012/07/07 01:36:23 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:37:08 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 76? Sat 2012/07/07 01:38:15 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 50% Sat 2012/07/07 01:39:39 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 49% Sat 2012/07/07 01:40:45 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 48% Sat 2012/07/07 01:41:51 PM System Log Office / Office:Overhead Status 0% Sat 2012/07/07 01:42:48 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 107? Sat 2012/07/07 01:44:32 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:45:55 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 47% Sat 2012/07/07 01:48:18 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status On Sat 2012/07/07 01:50:23 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Sat 2012/07/07 01:50:23 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 78? Sat 2012/07/07 01:51:01 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 76? Sat 2012/07/07 01:51:23 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 45% Sat 2012/07/07 01:51:33 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status On Sat 2012/07/07 01:52:01 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Sat 2012/07/07 01:52:01 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:52:31 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 78? Sat 2012/07/07 01:52:42 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:53:12 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 76? Sat 2012/07/07 01:53:42 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:53:48 PM System Log

Not to make big of issue out of this since I have text alerts, program to sync all back up, and it happens very rarely ... but would like to understand. I can create programs to determine but thought you probably would know... Does WB always run shortly after startup. So if polling interval is 1 hour and poll occurs then 30 minutes later a power failure and reboot occurs. Will WB poll occur as part of startup or 30 minutes later in keeping with last time polled?

I just pulled Venstar manual and I remembered disabling Program Modes so one wouldn't accidently cycle through them by pressing mode button at thermostat. In addition, I did a quick look at programming that does exist and there are no 107 degree settings.

Thermostat is one of the 1 day programmable Venstars and it was in Cool mode at the time. I've never used any of the thermostat's program modes since I control from ISY but I'll look at programming manual and run through to make sure of any odd entries that came from factory. Suppose it could have a bug in it's control function and momentarily switched to Program Cool etc.

I was out late tonight (and didn't have chance to log in via console and set DON -- done now) and received text that thermostat had been set to cool point 107. Got home and it (Cool Set point area on screen -- no area where it says mode is off) actually was set that high but displayed displayed as 0F. However, Useing arrow key (V) I lowered and watched it go through 99 on way down to normal level. Log from point it occured 9:43 pm till I went to thermostat and physically updated follows. After that is error log which is after we got home and had already changed temp. They look like REST attempts from DSCLink(IP 192.168.1.102) but DSCLink log does not show any errors timeouts or anything out off ordinary -- these may be unrelated but though would provide. Really weird is IP 192.168.1.174 is a Panasonic TV? Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 73â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:38:50 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 48% Fri 2012/08/03 09:39:57 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 59% Fri 2012/08/03 09:42:07 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat - C Status Off Fri 2012/08/03 09:42:41 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Fri 2012/08/03 09:42:41 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:43:09 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 107â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:43:13 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 61% Fri 2012/08/03 09:43:16 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 57% Fri 2012/08/03 09:44:22 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 75â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:45:21 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:45:29 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status On Fri 2012/08/03 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Thanks for assisting me think through this... After looking at data, it appears last WB polling time and data are saved during reboot/power failure so as you said ... all programs will run at startup based on last temperature value and therfore all settings wil be in sync. This means no signifcant issues will exist with HVAC enviroment settings. Temperatures change rapidly here but a switch between heat and cool mode will not occur within 30 WB minute polling interval. If power off for long time so is HVAC unit and ISY would run WB polling at next restart, programs would run and we're in sync! (albeit a little warm or cold). I've got APC UPS that sends text at power loss and power restore so will know even if I'm away. Helped to type it out.... Do you see anything I missed in ramblings?

None of my thermostats are included in scenes. I prefer to update them using programs -- IMHO much easier to adjust standard setpoints and seems always been isues with Tstats in scenes. Great Room:ThermostatORS scene only contains a button on a Keypadlinc so I can turn if on and off via programs. In fact, it is the button that is turned on to set variable to prevent automatic updates to Great Room thermostats and hence put it in manual override mode. ORS == OverRide Scene. Link table for all three thermostats are identical:

Yesterday, I got at least 15 text messages telling me that set point values were out of range. I compared text time to log and could tell it was occuring when weatherbug polling occured. Didn't think it was harmful but based on outside temp range warnings reviewed a program that was setting the mode of thermostat to cool every 30 minutes (based on outside temp). Just to see what would happen, I added a variable that tracked mode of thermostat and would not update its mode if had not changed based on temp from last WB poll. I did not get a single out of range message all day. Came home tonight and incorporated this new variable in other programs and accounted for fact someone can set it at thermostat. Doing a bit of testing and issue occured as follows: I have a kepadlinc that my wife can go press a button that will prevent any auotmatic updates to a thermostat. For example if she is cooking or we have lots of people over she will go turn keypadlinc button on which sets a variable and then she goes to thermostat and sets as she wants like down by 3 degrees. From then on all programs that would auto adjust that thermostat have the varible included which prevents them from running. When you turn the button off, its sets variable which triggers programs that will set thermostat to "automated" values it would have if button had not been on. I was testing updates described by adding new variable in other programs so I turned kepadlinc button on (variable was correct), changed thermostat to heat at 69 degrees (confirmed values on ISY), and then turned button off. I got text message telling me Set Point value was out of range. I capured screen in ISY, looked at thermostat which was showing correct value of Cool set point of 73, queried the thermostat which updated to correct value, captured screen again, and pulled section of log. Log follows and portion of screens are attached. Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Off Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:31 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status Off Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:35 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:35 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Heat Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:37 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Heat Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:38 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat Setpoint 69â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:39 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Keypad - G Status 0% Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:25 PM System Log Scene:Great Room / Great Room:ThermostatORS Off 0 Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:26 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:26 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:27 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat Setpoint 71â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:27 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat Setpoint 71â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:28 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 73â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:28 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:29 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 16â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:31 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 40% Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:44 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 41% Thu 2012/08/02 06:47:50 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 46% Thu 2012/08/02 06:50:00 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 44% Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:07 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status Queryâ–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:24 PM Web Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:24 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:25 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:25 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Unit 2 Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:26 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 73â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:26 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 44% Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:27 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Fan State Auto Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:27 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status On Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:28 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:28 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 75â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:52:17 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status On Thu 2012/08/02 06:53:18 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Thu 2012/08/02 06:53:18 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 43% Thu 2012/08/02 06:53:25 PM System Log

Thanks Michel. I understand ISY is event driven and you have confirmed I've got some thinking to do. Difficult to describe without posting programs but I've got thermostat value and mode that are set based on time of day, temp, security system state(home or away), day of week, manual override variable, plus any physical changes made at thermostat. Too make sure all is in sync, in a reboot/power failure situation, I've got a little work to do...Simple thing may be to reduce weatherbug polling interval and be out of sync for small time.... First off, I need to see if last WB polling time is saved through reboot and if it is can I force it to do an immediate poll...

Thanks. The first part of question is to undertand if weatherbug data is updated before programs run at ISY reboot/startup. The reason for asking is I have a programs that run based on ouside temperature and need to know if they will typicllay have good data during ISY reboot sequence . If not I need to include a program that will run at end of startup plus some wait time to make sure things are in correct state.

Is Weatherbug run and information updated before programs are executed? In addition, is there a way to know weatherbug did not run/failed. I vaguely remember temp = 0 being a tell since it would seldom be 0.0.

io_guy and Michel: You were 100% right. I should have turned NIS off as the first step... I just turned off Firewall protection of NIS and ran 15 full syncs in row as fast as I could press button and each finished in 2 - 3 seconds. Honestly, I thought putting the ISY in PC's NIS Full trust zone turned off firewall for that device but damn was I wrong. I went back to NIS and there is an option at bottom of trust level screen labeled "Exclude from IPS scanning" (option is kinda full trust with steriod kicker). I turned this option on for ISY IP address and turned NIS firewall back on. Did 10 more full sync updates without a timeout and finish times of 2-3 seconds. So sorry to waste your time with this but for what its worth, I learned several things about networking. Lotta good that does you Again thanks for your advice and patience, Paul

Please show me in the doc where it says that. I can't locate it in the the IT-100 developers manual but I read a warning about an issue in a DSC document about 5/6 years ago when I set up HomeSeer and their DSC plugin. In thinking about it, it may have been a warning not to set baud rate too high becasue if IT-100 orginated commands were very rapid you could loose/overwrite them. In addition, not that HomeSeer documents or programs are a reliable source (cause they are not!), it is still in the DSC plugin setup and documented as follows: Polling Timer HomeSeer will automatically interpret messages from the panel and update the status of your devices, but the Panel does not always send messages back to HomeSeer when its status changes. Setting this value tells HomeSeer to get the latest information from the panel at the interval you set. Setting this value to 0 disables polling. Would you suggest removing this resync for now and observing results. (probably add it back at least every 4 hours for insurance latter) This would allow us to see how many timeouts occurs with only small number of varaibles being updated at one time. However, the situation that put me on this track was when the alarm variable REST timed out during an alarm. Also, please know, I appreciate this utility and am not looking to find fault. As I stated in another post, my thought was that something in my configuation was causing the issue and I was trying to binary my way through possible causes. I am grateful for all advice and suggestions.

1. 7/30/2012 8:00am - Put ISY in trusted zone of DSCLink PC NIS Results 7/30/2012 9:39pm No ISY error log entries since but still getting timeouts on DSCLink REST updates 7/31/2012 7:30am No ISY error log entries and 7 DSCLink Rest timeouts ... about one per each full DSC hourly update and different variable each time 7/31/2012 7:15pm No ISY error log entries and 66 DSCLink Rest timeouts ... occured all during day while alarm employee and I were moving around house and breaking zones until about 11:00 am and several in afternoon that were from hourly DSC resync 2. Disable programs that run based on DSCLink variables -- Very few program runs immediatly as a result of variable updates. The value of DSC variables are used at other times as part of an and condition to determine if programs run as needed. The alarm variable = 1 is notable exception. 3. Remove NIS

Michel: I don't use admin console to control devices so dont think all on off is issue. I'll create program to send me text when out of range set points occur. Also I've got month long activity log showing these updates if of value can email etc. Thanks, Paul Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2

Gentlemen: I'm not concerned about a timeout during the routine hourly update. FWIW, DSC it-100 doc indicates that not all updates are broadcast by panel and recommends a periodic update to confirm in sync ... Not clear the potential missing updates are worth effort but I was just following DSC recommendation. My real concern is that an alarm REST variable update timed out within a couple tests. I'm good with any solution that minimizes this possibility or retries ASAP. My personal efforts have been to see if the timeouts were created by my environment. The DSCLlink PC and ISY are on same network switch and the PC is only running DSCLink. This ties in with reason I was concerned with thermostat activity since I'm not sure how their activity could impact REST updates. Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2

1. 7/30/2012 8:00am - Put ISY in trusted zone of DSCLink PC NIS Results 7/30/2012 9:39pm No ISY error log entries since but still getting timeouts on DSCLink REST updates 7/31/2012 7:30 No ISY error log entries and 7 DSCLink Rest timeouts ... about one per each full DSC hourly update and different variable each time 2. Disable programs that run based on DSCLink variables -- Very few program runs immediatly as a result of variable updates. The value of DSC variables are used at other times as part of an and condition to determine if programs run as needed. The alarm variable = 1 is notable exception. 3. Remove NIS

Michel: Will create programs for thermostat set point values greater than 80 or less than 60 for each tstat. While, I have not noticied it, I'm guessing you're thinking (or we're trying to determine if) the thermostat actually has these wierd numbers as set points? What else should program include to aid diagnosis? Thanks, Paul

Gentlemen: Thanks. Based on your input, I will perform following actions one at a time and note results every few days. 1. 7/30/2012 8:00am - Put ISY in trusted zone of DSCLink PC NIS Results 7/20/2012 9:39pm No ISY error log entries since but still getting timeouts on DSCLink REST updates 2. Disable programs that run based on DSCLink variables -- Very few program runs immediatly as a result of variable updates. The value of DSC variables are used at other times as part of an and condition to determine if programs run as needed. The alarm variable = 1 is notable exception. 3. Remove NIS To provide additional details, I perform a DSC panel update request from ISY to DSCLink every hour since DSC documentation states you cannot depend on all actions to be broadcast and many (but not all) timeouts during this update (I have 30 zones variables and all other standard like away stay alarm ready etc). The reason I'm evaluating my environment is a time out occured during alarm system test and the alarm variable REST update timed out. Paul

Thanks for feedback. There are not programs that trigger based on thermostat updates/values so for now I'll consider this not part of DSCLink Issue.