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In theory can Bluetooth be manipulated? No intention of going further.

Just downloaded iOS app. The app can control bed setting but it is via paired Bluetooth not as a back and forth to cloud which is how demo appeared so in essence app is the same as their controller.

It looks like you control Sleep settings from iPad arrive at bed via a SleepIQ cloud service. My question is has anyone listened to Wifi via Wireshark and or decoded the commands coming back so it could be automated with ISY. My friend says best thing to do is set it at 100 each week and then lower it to your setting to calibrate. Sounds kinda ridiculous but interesting at same time.

Resolved Thanks to Steve Lee for reminding me to test in smaller segments. There is nothing wrong with structure or logic of the programs. It is more fundamental to the fact that the program at issue is disabled. For anyone else that attempts, hopefully following describes: A program Runs If a disabled program and the Then branch of disabled program is evaluated true based on a variable (State1) value. You can see the disabled program "Running Then" since it has a wait 10 minute command in the then branch. Now one can change the value of the variable (State1) so that the Then branch is no longer true but ISY does not re-evaluate and hence does not stop the program. I changed variable (State1) via REST and just by simply updating variable in Admin console with same results. This behavior was not what I originally expected given that disabled program was "Running Then" but because program was disabled I understand why it would not be in ISY data structure containing programs being constantly (re-)evaluated. I accomplished required using: 'Garage:Garage Doors Opened So Check for Intruder' If Control 'Garage / Garage:Double Door is Closed' is switched Off Or Control 'Garage / Garage:Single Door is Closed' is switched Off Then Run Program 'Garage:Garage Doors Opened Are We Leaving with Exit Delay' (If) Wait 10 minutes Run Program 'Garage:Garage Doors Opened Have We Arrived Home' (If) Wait 15 seconds Send Notification to 'JPaulText' content 'Garage Possible Intruder' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ---------------------- 'Garage:Garage Doors Opened Are We Leaving with Exit Delay' (Disabled Program) If $SecSys_Exit_Delay is 1 (variable set direct by DSCLink via REST from DSC Alarm Panel) Then Stop program 'Garage:Garage Doors Opened So Check for Intruder' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ------------------------------------ 'Garage:Garage Doors Opened Have We Arrived Home' (Disabled Program) If $SecSys_Armed is 0 ($SecSys_Armed_Away & $SecSys_Armed_Stay from DSCLink via REST were combined into one variable through simple program already in use) Then Stop program 'Garage:Garage Doors Opened So Check for Intruder' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') There may be a simpler and more straight forward method to accomplish but today it works. I'm blind for now will consider refactoring later.

I don't know correct answer or if you can always predict. However, depending on circumstances, you might consider a method so you force the order of events. Example below will provide method of ordering events but will have issues if your four programs have different Else statements. Program Overall If Some Condition Run Program A (Then) Wait X seconds (as desired of not) Run Program B (Then) Wait X seconds Run Program C (Then) Wait X seconds Run Program D (Then) Else As noted if Else clause for A-D required then this is probably not right method. Programs A,B,C, and D would not have an If statement.

Anyone from UD see where I've gone wrong or is this a genuine issue?

DSCLink Screen captures occurred between 6:03 and 6:06. Relevant variable changed at 5:58:53 per listing of variables.

I've got a series of programs that monitor for the garage doors to open. Once they open ISY runs a program to see if you are within 10 minutes of the start of exit delay (aka leaving home). Then it checks to see if the security is system is armed either Away or Stay. The variables that indicate Stay or away or set to 0 indicating not armed within seconds of event (by DSCLink) happening but I am getting text indicating someone may have forced their way into the garage and are awaiting someone to return home. Per screen captures of the actual event in progress what am I missing? This happens frequently so I ran inside after arriving home and captured these images while all was in progress and sure enough after 10 minutes I received text saying "possible intruder". Obviously, I'm doing something very wrong (and am completely blind to it) or ISY is not seeing the State variable (in this case Armed Away) change from 1 to 0. Capture of program that determines if you are exiting are possibly have an intruder Program it runs as part of else to see if system is armed and gives me 10 minutes to get into house (program Disabled so only run as request by other program) Evidence that program is running the Then clause Even though both armed away and armed stay have been set to 0

Techman thanks. Based on advice here I stopped using temp and started using the heat and cool ctl devices. It reacts much faster and allows better control. My issue has become making sure it stays in correct mode and set point. Back to original question, what have people seen when Tstat loses power? Does ISY need to monitor and get it back in last state?

After the factory reset, its working as expected updating for 2 degree changes. I've got it controlling a heater via appliancelinc for my dog. It appears from reading a little testing that if the thermostat loses power, (attached to AC and batteries installed but just in case) it starts up in Mode Off. Have others confirmed this to be the case. I'm guessing I need to create programs to restore mode and setpoints? at startup of if Mode shows as Off. Can anyone confirm what they have done before I experiment to confirm tstat behavior? Thanks

As a final effort of the day, I removed from ISY and did a factory reset on Tstat. (manual says if you get a two digit error code call SH -- I got 00 which would not usually be an error but I'll call?) I added it back to ISY. To test I did a query and it did give ST of 138 but a few minutes later I performed query again and ST was not returned and even further the displayed Current Status value of 69 on ISY device screen was cleared. Log of Query returning Temp/Status follows: It is not updating Temperature but appears to update Humidity. Temp is at 69 but will rise with blow dryer test. Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:06 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 22 0D 10 1F 2E 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 92 96 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:06 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.0D.10 1F 2E 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 92 96 06 (02) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:09 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.0D.10 30.6C.0B 03 6E 8A (8A) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:09 PM : [std-Direct ] 22.0D.10-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:09 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [sT] [138] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:09 PM : [ 22 D 10 1] ST 138 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:18 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 22 0D 10 1F 2E 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 92 96 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:18 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.0D.10 1F 2E 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 92 96 06 (02) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:19 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.0D.10 30.6C.0B 2B 2E 02 (02) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:19 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 22.0D.10-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 22 0D 10 30 6C 0B 11 2E 02 01 01 0C 0C 37 00 50 26 00 D0 A0 3C 32 C9 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [Ext-Direct ] 22.0D.10-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLISPC] [160] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLISPC 160 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLISPH] [120] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLISPH 120 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLIHUM] [38] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLIHUM 38 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 22 0D 10 1F 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D2 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:20 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.0D.10 1F 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D2 06 (00) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:21 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.0D.10 30.6C.0B 2B 2E 00 (00) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:21 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 22.0D.10-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:21 PM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 22 0D 10 30 6C 0B 11 2E 00 00 01 00 D0 26 F8 EB 00 00 0A 05 04 00 00 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:21 PM : [Ext-Direct ] 22.0D.10-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:21 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1F C3 DD 0F 19 01 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:22 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1F.C3.DD 0F 19 01 06 LTSREQ (01) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:22 PM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 22 0D 10 30 6C 0B 12 D1 C0 00 01 00 D0 26 F8 EB 00 00 0A 05 04 00 00 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:22 PM : [Ext-Direct ] 22.0D.10-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=0 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:22 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1F.C3.DD 30.6C.0B 2F 03 00 (00) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:22 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 1F.C3.DD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:22 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 1F C3 DD 0F 19 00 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:22 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 1F.C3.DD 0F 19 00 06 LTSREQ (LIGHT) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1F.C3.DD 30.6C.0B 2B 03 00 (00) Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 1F.C3.DD-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLIMD] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLIMD 0 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLIFS] [8] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLIFS 8 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [uOM] [2] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [ 22 D 10 1] UOM 2 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [1F C3 DD 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [ 1F C3 DD 1] ST 0 Sun 12/14/2014 08:58:23 PM : [D2D-CMP 00B7] STS [1F C3 DD 1] ST op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true

Techman, I'd be happy if it updated when it changed and I blew hot air on it several times yesterday to test. The problem is it does not update itself for changes or when queried. Btw it does return humidity when queried.

Lee, thanks for extra effort. I'm still wondering if section from page 13 of user manual indicates it can do more with a different software link mode. Funny thing is it has reported temp on its own. Just not sure cause. From page 13 including footnote. INSTEON ProgrammingAdd INSTEON Wireless Thermostat as a ControllerINSTEON Wireless Thermostat can be set up to control other INSTEON devices or trigger software events when there is a change. The following INSTEON Wireless Thermostat changes can be configured as a controller (note that when linked to an INSTEON Thermostat, these commands will not function):• Group 1 - Cooling mode change (scene control)• Group 2 - Heating mode change (scene control)• Group 3 - Dehumidification, high humidity setpoint (scene control)• Group 4 - Humidification, low humidity setpoint (scene control)• Group EF - Broadcast on any change (notification group for linked software controllers)1 1 Group EF is a hexadecimal representation of Group 254 and can only be configured using software

I read full user manual and it speaks of link mode type EF on page 13 of manual. Footnote says can only be set by software and I don't see this in ISY interface. Is this what I'm missing?

EcoNet provided firmware update. Now it is on for open, off for closed, or x% for partial. Battery level does not shift so radically at open and close event. Still have variable and have not had it need to re sync. New version adds as a multi-level switch instead of as dimmer. I bought when first offered by Smarthome but just installed so had early FW. It can be FW upgraded by some controllers. It is simple but so far I can recommend.

I'm not getting Current Status / "Temperature". I deleted and re-added (even used old rule from Venstar dys that it be in Off Mode). It has batteries and is hooked to a 5VDC Power Supply - measured at 5.27. Following is a log of Query and there is nothing that looks like temp or double temp but humidity is clearly there. What am I doing wrong or is it a bad unit. Can anyone (or to those that have already responded are you saying you have one and see that it does) confirm it should be sending Temp on query? Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:36 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 22 0D 10 1F 2E 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 92 96 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:36 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.0D.10 1F 2E 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 92 96 06 (02) Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:38 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 22.0D.10 30.6C.0B 2B 2E 02 (02) Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:38 AM : [std-Direct Ack] 22.0D.10-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 22 0D 10 30 6C 0B 11 2E 02 01 01 0C 0A 12 20 50 25 00 D6 A2 4E 84 C9 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [Ext-Direct ] 22.0D.10-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLISPC] [160] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLISPC 160 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLISPH] [156] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLISPH 156 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLIHUM] [37] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLIHUM 37 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 22 0D 10 1F 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D2 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.0D.10 1F 2E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D2 06 (00) Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [iNST-ERX ] 02 51 22 0D 10 30 6C 0B 16 2E 02 01 01 0C 0A 12 20 50 25 00 D6 A2 4E 84 C9 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:39 AM : [Ext-Direct ] 22.0D.10-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=2, Hops Left=1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:40 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLIMD] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:40 AM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLIMD 0 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:40 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [CLIFS] [8] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:40 AM : [ 22 D 10 1] CLIFS 8 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:40 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [22 D 10 1] [uOM] [2] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 12/14/2014 08:54:40 AM : [ 22 D 10 1] UOM 2

Thanks. What do you mean by activated? It shows humidity so Thats why I assumed it would show temperature. I was going to use programs based on temp but a scene based on heat cool activation might work. I've got logic based on temp ranges. Until today was using outside temp for purpose of some control of unfinished basement area.

Thanks Lee. I've got dual band switches a couple feet away but I installed a spare access point in outlet very near and it added. Now the problem is I can see everything from tstat on ISY except current state which I assume would be temp and is what I actually wanted. What do you think? BTW I was able to wire to a 5 V power supply rather than use batteries. Edit: It finally displayed. Does temperature have to change to transmit. I though a query would get it since it is plugged in...

Thanks but it is not working. I've tried start linking and then pressing set button. I tried adding by Insteon ID. Short section of log Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [22 D 10 ] Added to list of devices to link to ISY Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 22 0D 10 0F 0D 00 Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.E3.DF 30.6C.0B 41 13 01 LTOFFRR(01) Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 31.E3.DF-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.0D.10 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.E3.DF 13.01.01 CB 06 00 (00) Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [std-Group ] 31.E3.DF-->13.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 31.E3.DF 13.01.01 CB 06 00 (00) Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [std-Group ] 31.E3.DF-->13.01.01, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:41 PM : [iNST-INFO ] Previous message ignored. Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:50 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 22 0D 10 0F 0D 00 Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:50 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.0D.10 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:59 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 22 0D 10 0F 0D 00 Sat 12/13/2014 03:49:59 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 22.0D.10 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Sat 12/13/2014 03:50:03 PM : [22 D 10 0 ] Failed to add device, reason 3 The error message is it cannot determine Insteon engine.

I want to add 2441ZTH direct to ISY without one of SH's wired versions -- using as remote temperature sensor only. Is this possible?. If so, any special steps because it is a wireless device or no wired version exists? I don't see it in device list or the special area for wireless device adds.

I have EconNet EV100. It linked to ZWave in ISY as a Dimmer which in itself is not a problem to me. My testing indicates the way to operate if for simple open and close is to issue: 100% for Open (On and Fast On do not appear to work) Off for Close Battery Level (with brand new tested batteries) shifts in large range when received just after and open or close. Could go from 98% to 72% and then a few seconds later a query will move it back to 98%. In order to save battery life, I've set a variable that keeps last vent state and does not issue command again if program is calling for last known state. Another program queries the state at startup and each day to confirm vent and variable are in sync. Does this match others setup and behavior? Thanks, Paul

Brian: Thanks for well though out suite of Leak Sensor programs that account for leak sensor quirks. I looked at original post and did not see this update. Did you decide it worked? Thanks, Paul

Got it. I installed backing reinforcement plate and long screws into supporting 2x4sbbut not nearly as good as you have. I've seen the long plates but never considered extra issues this brings with alignment. Good luck.

Assuming you have a deadbolt and an entry lock on the door... You adjust door so the entry lock catches on strike plate aligning the motorized deadbolt in the direct center of it's strike plate. In essence, slight tension is applied by closing the entry lock against the weathers strip.

I'm considering using this wireless thermostat purely as a remote temperature sensor (media equipment room and attic). Does it link to ISY and report temperatures for both the internal and the external wired sensor or does it require acting as salve/master to a wired thermostat to get information to ISY?