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Count me as +1 on ability to get rainfall from local device.

I purchased and installed one of the Hydreon RG-11 electronic only rain sensors that other have mentioned in posts (thankl to all) rain sensors a few weeks ago. Got it beside a simple rain gauge and so far it is perfect -- will see how it does during one of the downpour thunderstorms but I digress... I want to use the Irrigation module next year but must replace climate module rainfall with RG-11 reading for reliable results. During summer months, we get small pop-up storms and a weather station a quarter of a mile away (or across the street) can be worthless. Is this possible? Thanks.

It may not happen often but if you have more than 8 zones (hence two controllers) then turning one on will not always turn the other off if they are on different controllers.

Lee. Thanks for response I'm going to fix my simple program so it waits and does secondary query to update stAtus.

Understand what is happening based on reading your excellent research. Issue is that we are still getting wrong results so a fix is needed. Not sure where which is why i mention SL. Without fully understanding, Would updating ISY query so iolinc queries are run last and with delay have potential impact results since firestorm of activity appears from reading your posts to facilitate issue. Just spitballing but is there no solution possible ?

Lee and/or Michel: Didn't locate this thread and posted another viewtopic.php?f=27&t=15163 this morning and was directed here by helpful person. What is current state of this issue? Suggestions of installing NO contacts and doing additional query of device as required are what I got from the postings. Aside from bandaids on our part, is this on SmartLabs radar? Thanks, Paul

I've just this weekend hardwired contacts and hooked them to iolincs (v.36) that I've been using to control garage door. With a few peoples assistance, I have it working so that on to relay scene opens it and off to relay scene closes it. Last night at just after 3:00, a program trigerred indicating that my garage door was open and alarm was in armed mode. The sensor value was changed by query all and when I got up looked to find door was closed and then queried at isy console it went back to state of Off (closed). The program would have run just as I went to bed if garage door was open then and I don't have the reverse option set. I can post image to show but it is the larger contacts sold by smarthome placed at top middle of the doors and there is only a very small gap in closed state (door pulls in and away so maybe 1/4 inch) Any thoughts? NOTE ---- Added underlined lines below to help until root cause found If ( Status 'Garage / Garage:Double Door is Closed' is Off Or Status 'Garage / Garage:Single Door is Closed' is Off ) And $SecSys_Armed_Stay is 1 Then Wait 2 minutes Set 'Garage / Garage:Double Door is Closed' Query Set 'Garage / Garage:Single Door is Closed' Query Wait 20 seconds Send Notification to 'JPaulText' content 'Garage Door Open and Armed Stay' Set Scene 'Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Paul Lamp Scen' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Thanks. Understood this in general but with many device "felt" link with PLM was a default scene. Clearly wrong way to think.

Lee. Thanks. Does SH documentation simply hint but never outright say this? There was lots of mentions about scenes so in OP I considered it might be the case. Just would expect clear... CAN ONLY BE CONTROLLED FROM SCENE in their docs. But hell I could have just missed it. Next time I'll have two cups of coffee before a morning "simple" project. Just for kicks are there other devices that have same requirement ?

I didn't miss it and it works -- Thank you for confirming. It is clear that Iolinc relay must be a responder to scene tht is controlled and that one can't directly set ioLinc relay state in combination with Momentary C and get desired results. Again Thanks. Now, will someone please explain why for future reference?

I've already factory reset iolinc and restored via ISY. Did it again and still same results.

Thanks for the shot but iolinc is not linked to anything other PLM. Always controlled via simple programs mentioned. At this point I'm turning iolinc on and off from ISY console to test.

I've had an open garage door and close door program that used status of a triggerlinc and ioLinc in momentary A mode for 3-4 years that worked well but had to pick program so not simpliest mode for others to use and with a power failure true Triggerlinc status was lost until it was activated again. I just wired a hardwired set of NC contacts to the ioLinc sensor inputs. My goal is to simply open and close garage door by issuing an on (open) or off(close - although on vs off action not really important) command to the ioLinc. Thought it was simple: Wire contacts -- done Set ioLinc to Momentary C mode -- done Problem is when turning iolinc on and off, only On command is processed and it either opens or closes door as If ioLinc is still in Momentary A mode and sensor did not exist? Read so many threads but I'm either dense today or missing something? Please help me see the obvious? Am I misreading http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index ... n_I/O_Linc The iolinc is not in a scene -- is that missing link -- no pun intented!

Thanks.

My water bill has been too high last couple years and I want to take advantage of the irrigation module this year. The problem is that Middle Tennessee weather is dominated by pop-up storms during the summer months so you can have 3 inches of rain in one spot and none in an area 1/4 mile away. The closet WeatherBug stations to my house are over 5 miles away -- meaning for rainfall they would be worthless ion many occasions. What are all the variables the irrigation module needs to be accurate and could rainfall be entered/obtained from another very local source? ....even if I had a gauge that required me to read and enter the data by hand or if very lucky found some electronic rain sensor that could measure, transmit, and dump daily. If this is not possible are there other suggestions to get benefit of such well thought out irrigation logic?

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Fully understand and not a problem. You guys are best. I was just amazed that smart home had no idea and it is their device.

First time someone as user or DDI hasn't posted a response before I could get offlline .... What makes it really funny is I called Smarthome "Gold Line" and asked for advice. They said it was not common device and they were going to create lab so they could research and post how these variables interact. BTW, I've got programs to take care of both devices and they works great with pseudo random 10 5 5 settings so I'm more curious than anything else.

Thanks Lee. Going to have to reveal my ignorance --- What do Holdoff Time and Hysteresis mean in this context? What is the affect on system when each is changed up or down. I'd just be guessing at this point. I looked at Smarthome page and they list values by different names as described in their software.

Okay, I left most synchrolinc defaults but raised holdoff time thinking that would be the delay between events (knew it was not case when max it allowed was 17.085 seconds) and account for time washing machine was switching between phases in cycle. My Settings are in image. Log file of full washing cycle run follows and there were I believe 7 on and off cycles. Base off state Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 0% Tue 2014/04/22 05:44:24 PM System Log Started cycle Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 100% Tue 2014/04/22 05:50:59 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 0% Tue 2014/04/22 05:56:08 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 100% Tue 2014/04/22 05:56:26 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 0% Tue 2014/04/22 06:12:00 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 100% Tue 2014/04/22 06:12:18 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 0% Tue 2014/04/22 06:14:00 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 100% Tue 2014/04/22 06:14:17 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 0% Tue 2014/04/22 06:16:00 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 100% Tue 2014/04/22 06:22:18 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 0% Tue 2014/04/22 06:26:07 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 100% Tue 2014/04/22 06:26:25 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 0% Tue 2014/04/22 06:28:07 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 100% Tue 2014/04/22 06:28:25 PM System Log Laundry Room / Laundry:Washer SynchroLinc Status 0% Tue 2014/04/22 06:34:08 PM System Log end of cycle Can I tune the synchrolinc setting to have a single on and off? ... or do I account for on/off state via a variable by accounting time required for change between phases using program(s)?

Thanks. All I could find. Will just test.

Lee: Looks straight forward but so that I don't waste time is there any level of write-up that describes how these field interact? I've searched 10 times but can't get magic keywords. Paul

I hope this is not inappropriate and I'll delete if it is.... I'm working with io_guy to get a VenLink or modified DevLink to support all of us that want to use this excellent thermostat. If Venstar does not provide a test unit for his use, I plan to donate half the price for his efforts and wanted to see if others would like to chip in. DSCLink and GCLink are a big part of my ISY environment and I appreciate his efforts to support these third party devices. As a Cross link, other details are at: viewtopic.php?f=82&t=14272 FWIW following is edited email chain about supporting new API and Skyport Cloud at same time: From: Hart2HArt To: thermostatsupp. I'm very interested in using the T5900/T6900 thermostat in my home automation system (would replace T1800? with Insteon adapter). My question is can the new firmware provided API and the Skyport Cloud services exist at same time. I'd use the REST interface from an UDI ISY to control setting and obtain current variables based on living events. However, I want access to the great graphical interface from iOS and PC devices that your Skyport Cloud system provides. Regards, hart2Hart ----------------------------------------------------------------------- to Hart2Hart Hi Paul, Yes, as of the latest firmware version you can use both the local API and the skyport service at the same time. I am not familiar with the UDI ISY system but I’m assuming there needs to be some work done on their end to make it mesh with our calls. The HTTP calls are pretty straightforward and the local API will have support for calls documented at http://developer.venstar.com/. Let me know if you have any further questions.

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Thanks Teken. I had forgotten all about seeing the SynchroLinc announced -- had no use for it at the time. Does anyone have time to post a screen shot or listing of the settings that can be controlled via ISY. I"m going to need to have someone pull dishwasher for access and want to make sure I can fine tune through ISY control. Otherwise, I'll have them install power plug place under sink next to it for easy access -- which I should probably do anyway.