Brian H

From the sites page. That link is from Smartenit and only for repairs of their Smartenit and earlier ones with their older name Simplehomenet products. Units using the 2413 base plm board may or may not be fixed by them. As they got burned with poor capacitors like we did in our 2413S PLM and Revision 2 of the Access Points. Though asking them if they would consider fixing other modules could get a more definite answer. Depending on the model of the device. It should have more than one electrolytic capacitor. The 6.4uF 400V is the primary side of the switching power supplies input filter capacitor. Some I have seen more of the electrolytic style and some look like they have surface mounted Tantalum caps. Many times marked with the polarity and ratings. Yellow body is frequently the color of the cap. Tantalum caps are better as long as they are not stressed.

If you have a ZWave board. Pay close attention to where the older board support was ended. Later version if you have a ZWave board only work with the new board. So you would need which board you have before picking a firmware version.

My Revision 1.0-4014. Does not have a 18F25J10. It does have a white programming sticker indicating "18FJ2910 0333 V9D SMH316". That I believe is a PLM PIC chip. Since one is marked as the RF chip and the PIC32MX695F looks like the main controller. I have not removed the sticker to read the actual chip markings. It has a total of three 5 pin PIC programming connectors. J15 PLM ICP, J8 RF ICP and PIC32 ICP.

The power LED is connected directly to the ISY994i's power supply so nothing controls it On or Off. Either the LED itself has failed or the current limiting resistor is opened. I looked at the photo in the how to add a ZWave module to an ISY994i. The LED is a separate LED assembly on a 90 degree frame. Looks like an LED assembly as I have them in other devices. I opened up my spare ISY994i and did not see a screened part number on it. It is a through hole mounted LED. Soldered on the bottom of the board. The others are also individual assemblies that I originally thought where one long assembly. I would suspect the LED itself first as it seems to be very bright on mine.

It looks like I may have found the Nokia HUB data in the FCC Database. As a BC01. There are four sets of data. I believe the difference are the Test Results data. The manual is from the original manufacturer and is not updated to the Insteon name in it. This was in 2020 the files where posted. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm Grantee Code SBP Product Code -BC01

If they use ASCII commands and not the HEX commands. Then converted Nokia HUB would not work with third party devices like the Smartenit EZIO8SA and software from other manufacturers. Without modification.

The information was very informative to me. Photos where very clear and helpful. Thank you for posting it.

The 2412S was used before the 2413S was being produced. Came in two link database sizes. 417 links and 2016 links. Was slower and most found around 800 links the ISY99i (maybe the ISY994i also) would start missing links. Probably the way the database has to be addressed. It also supplied unfiltered 12VDC (around 18VDC) out the serial port cable and could power the ISY controller or Smartenit EZIO8SA. I still have some 417 link units as two 2016 link units.

Thank you for the tips. I will look at the items you mentioned.

I looked at the insides of a 2445-222 and unfortunately there was no easily found points for serial in and out signals. The original poster maybe able to provided added information. Ebay posters are all not totally truthful. The HUB has the same switching supply as our 2413S PLM and capacitor problems. So you may find some that are close to being dead. Some of the chips in the HUB are made for 3.3V supplies. Some where 5V. So I don't know what precautions you have to use when using an external serial board. Some of the 3.3V chips have some 5v tolerant ratings.

Good to see you found the problem. I have seen some posts where a 4.xxx to 5.xxx sometimes needed manual intervention.

I have seen some reports and photos of the older 2242-222 HUB being made a PLM. That has two board in it. By removing the Network board and connecting a serial board to the main board. Not clear if the firmware running it need to be updated. The newer 2245-222 HUB has all the electronics on one board. Not as easy to find connection needed or what has to be changed if anything. I have seen one thread here where someone did get the newer style HUB to act as a PLM. I have also seen posts on fixing them as they also suffer from the same poor choice of capacitors we see in the 2413S PLM.

There are two different HUBs in the mix. In the FCC Database Insteon HUB Pro and the Nokia Hub. The Insteon HUB Pro should be compatible. As it should use all the PLM communication protocol. The Nokia HUB many talk about is reported to not be support. UDI has stated probably not supported.

Either the EZIO8SA programmed the EZICOMM wrong, the EZICOMM has issues, you accidentally got the reply read incorrectly. The reply after the reset looks correct. Wait for your package and see if their is any differences. Factory Reset is different and explained in the Quick Guide in the box.

I would second the power supply check. They can cause all kinds of strange things when they start to get flaky.

Both the X10 and X10Pro lines are still being made and on their own web site.

I am not too sure on the Factory Reset as my old EZIO8SA factory reset was for a 2412S and the one I found on the Smartenit site also looks like for a 2412S base. I know they went back to a 2412 base from a 2413 base. When they had power supply issues like we did on our 2413S PLM. It didn't get programmed correctly or not at all. You may want to try a factory reset on the EZICOMM and then read it again. Hopefully the 02 73 will then return the 02 73 00 00 00 06 Your 02 73 is completely wrong. The last two bytes before the 06. Should never be anything but 00 00. Unless Smartenit has done something not allowed by the Developers Guides information. If you have not tried a different cable between the EZIO8SA and the EZICOMM. You may try that

Although the Insteon forums on their site not the Smarthome section. Is back online. I can log on but any message I try and send is marked as unauthorized. This happened once before but their contact us tab goes unanswered and the mail box is full and can't hold more messages. To the management team. I do know one of the Moderators contacted directly by Email. I don't believe he can fix it and sounds like the present owners have not contacted him either. Maybe they have more pressing issues but I guess for now their forums for me are gone. I am glad my spares bins still have extra modules in them.

This is from the guide on their site and sounds like the older 2412S. As it didn't have a beeper or two color Set LED 1) Unplug PLM for at least 10 seconds. 2) Press the SET button while plugging the PLM back in and continue holding SET button for 3~5 seconds. 3) Release Set button when buzzer stops. 4) LED will go out for one second and come back on when reset is complete Your method sounds like the proper newer ones with a 2413S based EZICOMM. That sounds correct about the sequence. After the reset the EZIO8SA should program the EZICOMM. From what I have read. Resetting the PLM when the EZIO8SA is connected also resets it. Though just the EZICOMM maybe all that is needed. After it programs the EZICOMM remove it from the EZIO8SA and see what the PC programs shows for the Get Configuration 02 73 shows. It should be 02 73 80 00 00 06 if it got programmed.

After you are able to see if the EZIO8SA has programmed the EZICOMM. We may have a better handle on what the problem is. I looked at one of your previous posts. The back photo shows the EZICOMM is a base 2413 Dual Band Module. So one more thing to consider is it has power supply capacitors just like we see in our 2413S PLM.

OK lets try this. Factory reset the EZICOMM and EZIO8SA. Power them back up and let the EZIO8SA reprogram the EZICOMM to look like a EZIO8SA. The LED on the EZICOMM should also pulse during the reprogramming. Take the EZICOMM and connect it to the PC with out resetting it. In the DockLight program PLM.ptp The Get IM Configuration 02 73. Should get a reply back of 02 73 80 00 00 06. If it was reprogrammed by an EZIO8SA or a 02 73 00 00 00 06 if it was not reprogrammed. I found the Get Version 02 60 always reports it is a PLM even if reprogrammed but the Get Configuration 02 73. Would be 02 73 80 00 00 06 if it was programmed and not the default 02 73 00 00 00 06.

Sounds like a good choice. If the adapters can be set to what polarity is on the Tip. It is + positive voltage on the Tip and negative on the outer barrel.

Maybe a recap would help. In your log file posted in the early messages. It showed the EZIO8SA with EZICOMM. Reporting it was a category 03 subcategory 2A. That is a PLM from Smartenit as the 2A is not one used by Smarthome and probably given to Smartenit as a third party device. I would have expected the 03 2A would have been caught earlier before the Administrative Console tried to add it and not program all the relay and input links in the module before giving the unsupported device message. It should have been 07 04 if reprogrammed. The flashing of the EZICOMM Set LED may give a clue to the programming data being sent and properly received by the EZICOMM from the EZIO8SA. Our tests where trying to see if the EZICOMM was being set to 07 04 and not the default 03 2A. Though not 100% conclusive. As you have found out.

When you had the older 2412S connected to it. The power was sent through the serial cable and was closer to 20VDC. No wall wart needed. I believe it has a switching supply with a wide range for the DC input.

I agree. A dimmer controlling an outlet is a bad idea and against the electrical code. One wrong load connected and you may have sparks or failure of the device or connected device.