Brian H

Did you ever try a replacement power supply? We have seen reports of strange things happening. I had failures on an ISY99i and my present ISY994i. If you are using a 2413S PLM they also have a reputation of failing and strange things happening

Thank you for the update on Steve Lee. He had assisted me a few times and I valued his information. I will miss his assistance and knowledge.

Status 'Fireplace-Sensor' is On . Would only be On as long as you held the button in. Then go Status 'Fireplace-Sensor' is Off. When you released the button.

I would also say. Test the power supply first. It may even have a voltage output on a meter and may quickly die under a normal load. I have had an ISY994i and router with similar symptoms. That a replacement supply corrected.

This is a real long thread on the 2413S PLM and its failures. https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/13866-repair-of-2413s-plm-when-the-power-supply-fails/ If you look at the label on the back. It should have a Hardware Revision number and a Date Code. I know hardware revisions higher than 2.5 have improved capacitors and a updated serial port. With more protection on the serial signals. I suspect they should be more releasable.

That does sound like a typical Smarthome thing. Sounds like things have not changed much, from when I was a member of the original Developers Group. Had to buy the privilege of membership. Along with an NDA for the documentation and a small set of modules to develop with. This was in the PLC not PLM days. Where you could assemble some code, with SALadIDE and DSM308. Download it into the PLC and it could run disconnected from the computer. Only plus was Insteon was in its infancy and we actually got to interact with Insteon Engineers. That one day just disappeared and all the documentation [though flawed] went public domain for awhile before just disappearing again.

The 2450 I/OLinc can have its Sensor and Ground terminals wired to your switch. It is an earlier design so it is power line only communications. The 2843-222 has a terminal block in it. Where you can wire your switch. It is in parallel with the internal magnetic switch. So when used with the external input. The magnet is not used. It is Insteon RF only and powered by a battery.

Part shortages are becoming an issue for many companies. My Nephew works for a company that makes all kinds of emergency vehicle devices. Like light bars and sirens. He said they are having a big problem with part shortages. I too have seen the automotive industries. Running out of electronic parts and even furloughing some workers.

Does the lamp have an incandescent or dimmable LED bulb? The lamp you used should not have a built in dimmer switch, high-low switch built in or low voltage bulb with a built in power supply.

Since Smarthome backed out of the promised firmware files or programmed controllers. The UDI PLM never saw the light of day. Knowing how UDI designs electronics. I am sure it would be many times more reliable over the 2413 PLM with power supply issues. There is a new Insteon Module in the FCC database that looks like a better replacement for the PLM. Though who knows if it will ever see the production line.

If memory serves me. The 2867-222 Alert and 2868-222 Siren modules. You where not given good information on how they work either. I also understand if new Insteon modules are released and you get no good documentation. They will not be supported. My blame will be on Smartlabs and Richardson Capital Partners. Not UDI!!

I found the message in my SPAM folder tonight.

I have read that Z-Wave has such a security feature. Adding and excluding requires a very close distance between the controller and module itself.

That does not sound good at all. Almost like the old private companies over protective ways. Are still being followed by Richmond Capital Partners. Don't help anyone. Even companies responsible for a portion of their sales and popularity of Insteon. That now seems to be dwindling. Push their HUB with all its limitations and the new APP that from all accounts is half baked and doesn't support half of the modules the they presently sell. I saw it all the way back to the release of Insteon. In the now defunct Developers Group. There was list of potential major manufactures wanting to license the Insteon technology. It quietly disappeared and I understand many are now doing Z-Wave. ?

I would suspect the power supply as a possible thing to look at. A ticket would also get you some answer's. What is the rating of the power supply as seen on its label. Some of my UDI devices came with a 500mA rated supply. The Z-Wave board will pull more current and could be getting close 500mA. I know they are selling 12VDC 1Amp supplies in their online sales page now. Like some other reports here. I too have a power supply get flaky.

What firmware and UI are you using and do they match each other? Is it the Sensor LED that does not go On or the Set LED on the side? The Sensor LED should light when the magnetic switch is closed.

Good to see you found the problem. Too bad it was a Smarthome Insteon Module's QC failure.

The 2456S3 is an older Insteon module. Power line only communications. Depending on its revision I1 only communications. So lots of power line commands maybe passing between the 2456S3 and the ISY's PLM. Is the LED on the module on? Factory Reset is in the full manual but if you don't have it and can't find it. The factory-reset procedure can be used to clear the ApplianceLinc module’s memory and restore its factory default settings. This procedure will clear the unit of all INSTEON Links, and any programmed X10 Primary Address, or X10 Scene Addresses. 1. Before resetting an ApplianceLinc that has been linked to an INSTEON Controller, be sure to unlink it from the Controller first. See Unlinking ApplianceLinc from an INSTEON Controller, above. 2. Unplug ApplianceLinc for about 10 seconds. 3. While holding down the black SET Button on ApplianceLinc, plug it back in. 4. After plugging ApplianceLinc back in, continue to hold down the black SET Button for 3 seconds. 5. Release the black SET Button. 6. After several seconds, the ApplianceLinc module’s Status LED will turn on and the device you plugged in will come on, indicating that the factory reset is complete. ApplianceLinc is now reset to all the default settings and ready for fresh programming and use. Enabling or Disabling Local Control (Load Sensing) Local Control allows you to manually turn on the device you plugged into ApplianceLinc by using the switch on the device itself, without sending a command from an INSTEON or X10 Controller. When ApplianceLinc module’s controlled (bottom) outlet is turned off (with Local Control enabled), ApplianceLinc can “sense” that you are trying to turn on your device with the device’s built-in switch. When ApplianceLinc “senses” this, it will turn on its controlled (bottom) outlet automatically. Caution: With Local Control enabled, some devices have been known to turn on your ApplianceLinc after you have turned it off. Please use this feature with caution. • For product versions 4.0 or higher Local Control is disabled by default (reference version number on label on back of unit, for example V4.0). To enable Local Control: 1. Press and hold the black SET Button on ApplianceLinc for 3 seconds. The white Status LED will begin flashing to confirm that you are in setup mode. 2. “Triple tap” the black SET Button by quickly tapping it three times. 3. The status LED on ApplianceLinc will stop flashing and Local Control will be enabled. To disable Local Control, repeat steps 1-3, substituting a “double tap” instead of a “triple tap” in step

If you have not found it yet. I would also say looking at the great wiki information along with help here. Will be a great help. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Maybe a wise move to not do a How-To. I suspect since the 2245 has the same LNK354GN switching power supply chip. It probably has the same issues with the capacitors as the 2413S/U PLM and Revision 2 Access Points. Not being specified as OK in switching supplies.

Is the HUB the older 2242-222 or the later 2245-222? From the photo it looks more like the 2245-222 HUB. I have seen the 2242-222 mentioned here. Where someone had the network assembly removed and wired into a Serial Port PLM daughter board. If it is the newer 2245-222 can you give more details on where the serial interface was connected?

Thank you for this information. I have seen similar reports from others also. Universal Devices is on the top of my provides outstanding support list.

Even the old model 2412S power line only should work with an ISY994i. It also can supply power through the serial port connector to power it. Though it has a slower memory so things maybe slightly slower. We have seen the power supplies with an ISY controller. So trying one in some situations can correct things. Has a wide DC voltage range of 5Volts to 30Volts. Last time I looked UDI was selling a 12V 1 Amp replacement.

Glad to see you have had good results. Took me awhile to discover this myself. Mine are real early hardware revisions 4.5 and 4.6 Sirens . Long before ISY V5 firmware was released to support them. So I was not too sure if things changed if the presently sold Sirens have a later firmware.

I do remember for a short time. Smarthome did indicate a +2000 link database. The old 2412S PLM went from 417 Links to 2016 Links but with slower memory speed. Anything over around 800 Links and problems showed up. It has been 1000 Links for a long time. Well before 2.1 I do know for awhile the sales site said +2000 links. Around V2.1 and then quietly changed back to +1000. All I can say is my V2.1 has exact same 24LC64 memory chip on the daughter board. As my original V1.0 all the way to V2.5 2413S PLMs. If it was not a mistake. The +2000 link database was short lived.