Brian H

The power LED is connected directly to the ISY994i's power supply so nothing controls it On or Off. Either the LED itself has failed or the current limiting resistor is opened. I looked at the photo in the how to add a ZWave module to an ISY994i. The LED is a separate LED assembly on a 90 degree frame. Looks like an LED assembly as I have them in other devices. I opened up my spare ISY994i and did not see a screened part number on it. It is a through hole mounted LED. Soldered on the bottom of the board. The others are also individual assemblies that I originally thought where one long assembly. I would suspect the LED itself first as it seems to be very bright on mine.

It looks like I may have found the Nokia HUB data in the FCC Database. As a BC01. There are four sets of data. I believe the difference are the Test Results data. The manual is from the original manufacturer and is not updated to the Insteon name in it. This was in 2020 the files where posted. https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm Grantee Code SBP Product Code -BC01

If they use ASCII commands and not the HEX commands. Then converted Nokia HUB would not work with third party devices like the Smartenit EZIO8SA and software from other manufacturers. Without modification.

The information was very informative to me. Photos where very clear and helpful. Thank you for posting it.

The 2412S was used before the 2413S was being produced. Came in two link database sizes. 417 links and 2016 links. Was slower and most found around 800 links the ISY99i (maybe the ISY994i also) would start missing links. Probably the way the database has to be addressed. It also supplied unfiltered 12VDC (around 18VDC) out the serial port cable and could power the ISY controller or Smartenit EZIO8SA. I still have some 417 link units as two 2016 link units.

Thank you for the tips. I will look at the items you mentioned.

I looked at the insides of a 2445-222 and unfortunately there was no easily found points for serial in and out signals. The original poster maybe able to provided added information. Ebay posters are all not totally truthful. The HUB has the same switching supply as our 2413S PLM and capacitor problems. So you may find some that are close to being dead. Some of the chips in the HUB are made for 3.3V supplies. Some where 5V. So I don't know what precautions you have to use when using an external serial board. Some of the 3.3V chips have some 5v tolerant ratings.

Good to see you found the problem. I have seen some posts where a 4.xxx to 5.xxx sometimes needed manual intervention.

I have seen some reports and photos of the older 2242-222 HUB being made a PLM. That has two board in it. By removing the Network board and connecting a serial board to the main board. Not clear if the firmware running it need to be updated. The newer 2245-222 HUB has all the electronics on one board. Not as easy to find connection needed or what has to be changed if anything. I have seen one thread here where someone did get the newer style HUB to act as a PLM. I have also seen posts on fixing them as they also suffer from the same poor choice of capacitors we see in the 2413S PLM.

There are two different HUBs in the mix. In the FCC Database Insteon HUB Pro and the Nokia Hub. The Insteon HUB Pro should be compatible. As it should use all the PLM communication protocol. The Nokia HUB many talk about is reported to not be support. UDI has stated probably not supported.

Either the EZIO8SA programmed the EZICOMM wrong, the EZICOMM has issues, you accidentally got the reply read incorrectly. The reply after the reset looks correct. Wait for your package and see if their is any differences. Factory Reset is different and explained in the Quick Guide in the box.

I would second the power supply check. They can cause all kinds of strange things when they start to get flaky.

Both the X10 and X10Pro lines are still being made and on their own web site.

I am not too sure on the Factory Reset as my old EZIO8SA factory reset was for a 2412S and the one I found on the Smartenit site also looks like for a 2412S base. I know they went back to a 2412 base from a 2413 base. When they had power supply issues like we did on our 2413S PLM. It didn't get programmed correctly or not at all. You may want to try a factory reset on the EZICOMM and then read it again. Hopefully the 02 73 will then return the 02 73 00 00 00 06 Your 02 73 is completely wrong. The last two bytes before the 06. Should never be anything but 00 00. Unless Smartenit has done something not allowed by the Developers Guides information. If you have not tried a different cable between the EZIO8SA and the EZICOMM. You may try that

Although the Insteon forums on their site not the Smarthome section. Is back online. I can log on but any message I try and send is marked as unauthorized. This happened once before but their contact us tab goes unanswered and the mail box is full and can't hold more messages. To the management team. I do know one of the Moderators contacted directly by Email. I don't believe he can fix it and sounds like the present owners have not contacted him either. Maybe they have more pressing issues but I guess for now their forums for me are gone. I am glad my spares bins still have extra modules in them.

This is from the guide on their site and sounds like the older 2412S. As it didn't have a beeper or two color Set LED 1) Unplug PLM for at least 10 seconds. 2) Press the SET button while plugging the PLM back in and continue holding SET button for 3~5 seconds. 3) Release Set button when buzzer stops. 4) LED will go out for one second and come back on when reset is complete Your method sounds like the proper newer ones with a 2413S based EZICOMM. That sounds correct about the sequence. After the reset the EZIO8SA should program the EZICOMM. From what I have read. Resetting the PLM when the EZIO8SA is connected also resets it. Though just the EZICOMM maybe all that is needed. After it programs the EZICOMM remove it from the EZIO8SA and see what the PC programs shows for the Get Configuration 02 73 shows. It should be 02 73 80 00 00 06 if it got programmed.

After you are able to see if the EZIO8SA has programmed the EZICOMM. We may have a better handle on what the problem is. I looked at one of your previous posts. The back photo shows the EZICOMM is a base 2413 Dual Band Module. So one more thing to consider is it has power supply capacitors just like we see in our 2413S PLM.

OK lets try this. Factory reset the EZICOMM and EZIO8SA. Power them back up and let the EZIO8SA reprogram the EZICOMM to look like a EZIO8SA. The LED on the EZICOMM should also pulse during the reprogramming. Take the EZICOMM and connect it to the PC with out resetting it. In the DockLight program PLM.ptp The Get IM Configuration 02 73. Should get a reply back of 02 73 80 00 00 06. If it was reprogrammed by an EZIO8SA or a 02 73 00 00 00 06 if it was not reprogrammed. I found the Get Version 02 60 always reports it is a PLM even if reprogrammed but the Get Configuration 02 73. Would be 02 73 80 00 00 06 if it was programmed and not the default 02 73 00 00 00 06.

Sounds like a good choice. If the adapters can be set to what polarity is on the Tip. It is + positive voltage on the Tip and negative on the outer barrel.

Maybe a recap would help. In your log file posted in the early messages. It showed the EZIO8SA with EZICOMM. Reporting it was a category 03 subcategory 2A. That is a PLM from Smartenit as the 2A is not one used by Smarthome and probably given to Smartenit as a third party device. I would have expected the 03 2A would have been caught earlier before the Administrative Console tried to add it and not program all the relay and input links in the module before giving the unsupported device message. It should have been 07 04 if reprogrammed. The flashing of the EZICOMM Set LED may give a clue to the programming data being sent and properly received by the EZICOMM from the EZIO8SA. Our tests where trying to see if the EZICOMM was being set to 07 04 and not the default 03 2A. Though not 100% conclusive. As you have found out.

When you had the older 2412S connected to it. The power was sent through the serial cable and was closer to 20VDC. No wall wart needed. I believe it has a switching supply with a wide range for the DC input.

I agree. A dimmer controlling an outlet is a bad idea and against the electrical code. One wrong load connected and you may have sparks or failure of the device or connected device.

Step 4. The LED on the side of the EZICOMM should flash a few times if it is communicating with the EZIO8SA and setting the EZICOMM. The network style connector on the ISY994i,EZICOMM and EZIO8SA all are serial signals not the normally used network signals. You normally find on a RJ45 jack. When you have the EZICOMM connected to the PC with DockLight. You can use the PLM.ptp file to see if the EZICOMM will respond properly. The EZIO8SA uses a PLM or EZICOMM. To be used in the system. The Smartenit program needs it own interface to run. So you need a PLM or EZICOMM on the EZIO8SA and another one on the PC. So you need two PLM units. One for the PC and another for the EZIO8SA. With no PLM on the EZIO8SA but on the PC so the utility runs. It can open the program but will not connect with an EZIO8SA with no attached PLM or EZICOMM. Does the LED on the EZICOMM flash when you start up the connected EZIO8SA flash a few times? That should show if the two units are communicating and should be setting the EZICOMM to report it is a 07 04 module and not the default 03 2A. Are you still getting the messages you posted in a previous log file. Where it tried to add the module and got many communications listed. Normally I would expect the unsupported device would show up quickly if the device was not in the ISY list of known devices. Not the whole sequence of commands before calling the unsupported device. Have you tried connecting the EZIO8SA to the EZICOMM and letting it initialize? Then connecting the EZICOMM to the PC and seeing what the 02 73 command reports? With out resetting it first.

I checked my notes and Developers Guide. I have a correction. With the EZCOMM programed by the EZIO8SA. The 02 60 command will still return the 03 2A with the 02 60 command but to the outside world. Like the ISY994i it should report it is a 07 04. If programmed by the EZIO8SA the command 02 73 should report a 80 if it was programmed by the EZIO8SA. On mine at power up of the EZIO8SA. It sets the Host Category to 07 04. Turns off the Automatic LED control and Local Set button linking, turns the Set LED off, turns the Set LED on, turns back on the Automatic LED control and leaves the Local set button linking off. When turned on. The LED on the side of the EZCOMM should flash off and back on if the EZIO8SA is programming it. Another clue would be a programmed EZCOMM reporting a 80 with the 02 73 command if it was programmed or a 00 if not. In your Hyperterminal showing @@@@@. The PLM uses HEX for messaging. If you are sending ASCII that maybe the reason. The preset DockLight ptp file is set to send HEX.

The Smartenit program uses its own connected interface. PLM both 2412S and 2413S. May also use a 2412U or 2413U that I never tried. The older 2414S PLC or maybe the 2414U USB PLC. The PLC also needs the SDM3-308 Smarthome Device Manager. SDM3-308 was in the utilities download package. Maybe too old for Windows 10. Their EZServe or EZICOMM. With the EZIO8SA it still needs its own PLM or EZICOMM and the program needs it own interface. So you need a interface separately for the program to access the EZIO8SA. Your utility display shows not connected so you can't do anything with the EZIO8SA. I believe since it has no interface connected to the EZIO8SA and the interface is being used by the Utility. Your PLM.ptp display. 02 60 Get IM Info. 1E 7F 33 6 digit Insteon ID. Category 03 PLM. Subcategory 2A (I think id is a Smartenit id). 9B firmware version. 06 ACK command processed correctly. You may want to run the PLM.ptp on the EZCOMM after you have it initialized by the EZIO8SA and not reset. The 02 60 Get IM Info results should now show the category and subcategory for the EZIO8SA and not the PLM data.