Brian H

I don't have any thoughts on what maybe wrong. If something pops into my thoughts I will post.

Sounds like the power supplies are working. Maybe a different component had failed or there is a bad run on the board.

The older revision 1, 2443 Access Points where built on the power transformer based interface. Also used on the 2412 PLM and 2414 PLC modules to name a few. The revision 2, 2443 Access Points are made with the same switching supply, base interface board in the 2413 PLM. As you found they also suffered from the same capacitor problems. I rebuilt a few myself.

You may want to look at the +5 volts to GND on the I/O terminal block to see how it is acting. Since C7 is probably horizontal to the PCB. If you are careful there should be ~22VDC on C7. That may give some clues. Since the PCB is double sided with plated through holes. It is possible one got damaged and is no longer making connection between the layers. I know I damaged one in a 2443 V2 Access Point and I had to use some wire wrap wire to reconnect the missing connection. Small solder splash bridging runs. It is possible the small transformer in the switching supply went bad but it would not be on the top of my list. Maybe a diode or Zener could have also been bad.

You can still find it in a web search. I suspect it was discontinued. Though the page I found in the search. Says "GET NOTIFIED WHEN BACK IN STOCK". I also think the older designs and slow movers maybe gone or on their way out. The new owners have said they are Internet Things oriented. https://www.smarthome.com/synchrolinc-insteon-2423a5-power-synching-controller.html I just ordered a new 2413S PLM in the sale. Will be reporting on it in a week or so. If I read the sales page correctly. It indicated a larger link database. >2000 over the 1000 in my V2.3. Time will tell. I did see a photo and the serial daughter board is a new one.

Wanted to verify. Are the Cree's dimmable? Most of their products are. Can you tell if the noise or buzz is coming from the electronics and not its buzzer? Some dimmers will buzz when near 100% On. Maybe you have one with a slightly loosely wound coil in it.

Do you happen to have a X10 Coupler/Repeater still in use from your X10 days? Some of them where known to cause firestorms in some conditions. If disconnecting the X10 wall switches doesn't stop it. You may also want to turn off the coupler/repeater circuit breakers. Then see if it is sending the firestorm. If you have a smart meter from the power company. Though rare. There was one system reported on the X10 forums that was causing issues.

The power line is flooded with X10J Status Requests. Interfering with the Insteon controller sending anything. What is controlling the two remaining X10 Switches. If you are using a controller. Unplug it and see if the signal firestorm stops. Two way. They have an X10 transmitter in them to control other X10 modules or they are in a three way setup where either one can turn the light on or off? If they don't have a X10 power line transmitter in them. They can't send any X10 signals on the power lines. You may have an electronic device making power line noise. Being seen as a X10 J Status request. Any new electronics in the home? You may want to go around and unplug things and see if anything changes. You may find some information on Jeff's excellent set of X10 troubleshooting tutorials. The one on the cell phone charger and CFL-LED bulbs are very interesting. http://jvde.us/x10_troubleshooting.htm

The typical failure was their choice of filter capacitors in the switching power supply. Real long thread here on repairs we did ourselves. This also applied to the 2443 Access Points hardware 2.0 and above. Along with some of the Smartenit modules. They also where on the same base main board. https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/13866-repair-of-2413s-plm-when-the-power-supply-fails/

I don't think anyone has the latest revision that is more than the two year and a few months typical failure use time. So the jury maybe out on is the reliability issue fixed. The UDI PLM was never completed. The promised firmware chips or license to program Insteon firmware into it. Was promised and then later management canceled it. I believe it had to be mothballed. I would think you could use any Dual Band device in the second outlet. So the extra PLM isn't powered up all the time. The passive coupler could be used but I would test how the system is working with no added devices in the second outlet.

A great loss to all users Stu has help. https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/24103-sad-news/

I still use a HR12A and UR19A remotes. Through an RR501. To control my older Insteon modules that could be programmed with an X10 Primary Address. X10 chime modules triggered by an ELK930 Doorbell Sensor. The chime modules also get sounded when it is time for my ISY994i to wake me up. I do have a JV Digital Engineering XTB-IIR coupler repeater. Blasts over a 10 volt X10 signal on the homes power.

UDS? You mean UDI? The Simplehomenet products do some unique things with the Insteon protocol. That only they seemed to use. For awhile Simplehomenet {now Smartenit} was not providing information to UDI so total support of their products was not possible. Not too sure if they freely exchange data now. I think the other program you maybe thinking of. Was the Simplehomenet Utilities. I looked and the link seems to be gone . Their help forums also seem to be gone of new posts. Just what was there a few years ago. I did find it directly where they stored it. https://sourceforge.net/projects/shnutilitysuite/ My EZX10RF was an early model and it would take an All Units Off and resend on the power lines a All Lights Off. That my X10 appliance type modules ignored. Sent it back and they reflashed the firmware. Unfortunately it still did it when I got it back. Sounds like something may have changed. X10 RF remotes always send multiple RF commands. Your unit for some reason is decoding it more than one time for each button push.

If the PLM is the single band 2412S. It normally supplied power to the ISY994i or older ISY99i. So they would power up together. The procedure is the same as you have pointed out. Since the PLM is not Dual Band. All your RF devices have to go through a Dual Band module and be passed on by power line. Maybe you have power line issues. The new Dual Band PLM is the 2413S and does not supply power. So you would also need a wall wart power supply unless you have one that is in the ISY994i kit.

I would probably use the new one. The main board in the 2412 series Insteon modules did have real power transformer power supply. Majority of them lasted many years. If it will be that close to the ISY994i PLM. I doubt there would be any communications issues. I agree. Their web site and your description of included paper work. Is out dated and could be confusing. They may even have in an archive the proper photos and sales pages. They originally used the base 2412 main boards in their PLM and other modules using the same main board with their custom Daughter Board. It could also be Insteon is not the most important thing they are selling these days. I see many new devices for things like Security, Zigbee, energy and others. So keeping Insteon things current may not be top priority anymore

You are not the first person indicating the new labels fonts are easier to misread. Though the stock it is printed on seems to be a more rugged plasitc over the smudgy white paper on the older units. That sometimes fell off when the glue dried out.

Thank you for the update. I am glad the problem part was found and being replaced. Hard to say about using the V1.B 2413S. Depending on how long it was in service. If it is close to the slightly over two years in use. Its power supply maybe getting close to failing. Just like the 2413S PLM failures we are seeing on our ISY994i. Dual Band would add RF communications that may help in some setups. Though it could fail in a few months. Though Smartenit didn't point it out directly. Their now Read Only Forums. Showed many failures with the Dual Band base board. Used in many of their standalone modules that where built on the base 2413 board and their Dual Band PLM models. I found on their sales pages their present model PLM is equivalent to the older Smarthome single band 2412S. The factory reset procedure they gave you is for the 2412S PLM and it looks like they did not update their literature. That still must be written for their Dual Band model PLM and maybe their other Insteon modules based on a PLM main board .

Hope you get some help from Smartenit. I had another thought. Though rare. We have seen the six digit Insteon ID wrong on the back label. If it is wrong. Trying to add it with the incorrect ID will result in what you are seeing. No responses back when trying to add it. I tried this with a 2412S PLM. In the Administrative Console. Picking the Start Linking choice. Then holding the set button on the PLM is question until it is detected. It will show the tested PLM six digit ID. Of course after the test. You have to remove it from the Administrative Console. I am not sure how much the ISY994i can set in the EZIO8SA. Their utility needs a Insteon Interface to access the EZIO8SA/PLM. It would need a computer with a serial port if you used a 2412S/2413S and the PLM interface series cable buried in the 2412S/2413S packing material. Can't say if the Smartenit PLM supplies the serial cable for a PLM. Some say you can temporarily power down the ISY994i setup and use its PLM.

Reread your early post messages. If the EZIO8SA with power supply and its PLM. Are in the same outlet as the ISY994i's PLM. I would suspect the new EZIO8SA kit you have. Has a defective part. Either their PLM is bad or the EZIO8SA is not communicating to its PLM. One added thing to try is a different network style cable between the EZIO8SA and its PLM. My old EZIO8SA that would need an update {their web information page} for a 2413S PLM. Did add to my system with a 2413S and 12 volt supply. Though their Smartenit utility may not have properly controlled it. I didn't go much further.

I too forgot there are Lithium AA and AAA cells. They do run higher in voltage. I just measured some AA and AAA ones. From package ~1.7V DC 50mA load and ~1.65V DC 100mA load.

If you have +12 volts on the 12 volt terminal to common. It is getting power. I can't say how it will act with their latest PLM. As it may act differently than my older 2412S PLM. Mine has a single color LED {I have seen White or Blue mentioned}. When powered up. The LED on the side of the PLM lights. Then a second or so later flashes off and on bright a few times as it is initialized to what the EZIO8SA requires. Tried a Factory Reset. Held the Set button at power up for ten seconds. The LED was on bright. When I released the Set button. The LED went out while it reset then came back to it normal brightness. If the EZIO8SA was connected. It went through the initialization sequence again. Actually every time it power up. It did the initialization again. This is for an old EZIO8SA from the Compacta days and a late revision 2412S. So how it acts now maybe different. Your photo looks like the single band as they indicate it has the pass through outlet on the front. Just like the older 2412PLMs. The later 2413s Dual Band based module. has no pass through outlet on the front. I suspect they got from Smartlabs a base 2412 main board and later revision serial port board with no F1 fuse on it to pass power to the EZIO8SA. https://smartenit.com/product/ezicomm/ EZIO8SA kit says single band power line only . " Product appearance may be different than what is shown. " I would definitely call them about the kit being single band and how the LED on the side of their PLM should act at power up. That should help and determine if it is acting correctly and maybe a power line signal issue. I also saw that the photos on the sales pages didn't match the descriptions. Yours has the pass through outlet and the sales pages show the case with no pass through outlet. Though the sales page does indicate it has a pass through outlet.

Smartenit indicates the 5010K is now a single band PLM. Due to availability from Smartlabs and not a 2413S Dual Band equivalent. Equivalent to a 2412S PLM. The 2412S use to supply power to the EZIO8SA through the cable between them. I don't know if the present one from Smartenit has the power on the serial cable. As their EZIO8SA kit with a 5010K also includes a 12 volt 600mA 5.5mm X 2.5mm wall wart. Are you powering the EZIO8SA wit a 12 Volt wall wart? Maybe it is not getting any power. Some of the earlier information I gave you was for a 2413S PLM so the factory reset maybe incorrect. As the older 2412S did not have a dual color LED or beeper. Old memory here. I believe powering the PLM up while holding the set button for thirty seconds would do a Factory Reset. I suspect the EZIO8SA is not getting any power if you don't have a wall wart supply.

I don't see any SRX message received back from the PLM connected to the EZIO8SA. You may want to check the six digit Insteon ID on the PLM connected to the EZIO8SA label. Sometimes we see the ID read wrong. The newer ID labels have some numerals and letters like 0 and 8 looking similar and read incorrectly. Also try moving the EZIO8SA with PLM to another outlet and see if you have a communications issue between the ISY994i's PLM and the EZIO8SA with its PLM. When you first power it up. Does the LED on the side of the PLM flash on and off a few times as the EZIO8SA connects and initializes the PLM to identify as a EZIO8SA and not a PLM? Is the PLM a new 2413S or Smartenit EZIComm? My 2413S resets by powering Off for at least 10 seconds. Holding the SET button plug it back in. Keep holding it until is starts beeping and continue holding until the beeping stops. Then release the set button. It will reset and then do a short beep. Since it is on a EZIO8SA the LED will probably flash a few times as the EZIO8SA initializes the connected PLM.

Yes I was thinking about the Motion Sensor II. Thanks for the correction. No telling how good the original ones where or if the ten years is a typical calculation. I had a AA cell in a Open Closed Sensor package. Weak from the factory.

The older 2412S is single band so the sensors have to have their RF signals passed to the PLM from another Dual Band Module. RF can be strange so I can't say whey you seem to see one sensor OK and one ten feet from it is flaky. I looked. The Amazon basics CR132A are a three volt Lithium battery. If that is what you used they should work fine. I didn't see the capacity rating on then but I doubt they would be any worse than the original ones Smarthome is using. Only thing I did see was a warning about one brand of camera. My guess would be the camera may have high current spikes when being used. I did find in a search. An alkaline A132. It was also a 3 volt cell but it probably would have a much lower life. A rechargeable CR132 it also was a 3 volt cell.