Brian H

The 2448A7 is strictly Insteon RF. So it has to go through another Dual Band device to process the Insteon RF to and from the power lines. Not important to most users but it also does not do any X10 signaling. The PLM uses RS232 for communicating to the outside world. MAX232 or MAX232EI interface chip. So the signals are RS232 swinging + and -. The ISY994i would have to have a matching signal pin out and signals as the PLM. The pin outs and RS232 signal specifications are in the PLM Quick Start Manual. If you don't have one. https://cache-m2.smarthome.com/manuals/2413Sqs.pdf Though most have not found them and tossed the box. There is a RJ45 to standard DB9S serial port cable in the 2413S or 2412S PLM box from the factory. It is only 3 wires being used. Serial In, Serial Out and Ground. Pin 2 was a unregulated 12VDC from the older 2412S as the ISY994i technically could use its power to run. I can ring one out if you need the pin connections. I looked at the output of my spare ISY994i and did not see any signals on its pins for the PLM TTL signals and one seemed to have a termination resistor on it. So I doubt the TTL signals would be used. My thoughts are the 2413S is not abandoned but in very short supply. Due to the pandemic and it is the more popular of the two interfaces. USB or Serial Port. Here is the 2448A7 Quick Start Manual if you want some information on it. http://cache.insteon.com/documentation/2448A7qsg.pdf

A factory reset is recommended for all newly purchased Insteon Modules. It is possible it got shipped with some test links in it and was not reset at the factory. A factory reset clears out any stray links and setting in it.

Did you ever try a replacement power supply? We have seen reports of strange things happening. I had failures on an ISY99i and my present ISY994i. If you are using a 2413S PLM they also have a reputation of failing and strange things happening

Status 'Fireplace-Sensor' is On . Would only be On as long as you held the button in. Then go Status 'Fireplace-Sensor' is Off. When you released the button.

This is a real long thread on the 2413S PLM and its failures. https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/13866-repair-of-2413s-plm-when-the-power-supply-fails/ If you look at the label on the back. It should have a Hardware Revision number and a Date Code. I know hardware revisions higher than 2.5 have improved capacitors and a updated serial port. With more protection on the serial signals. I suspect they should be more releasable.

That does sound like a typical Smarthome thing. Sounds like things have not changed much, from when I was a member of the original Developers Group. Had to buy the privilege of membership. Along with an NDA for the documentation and a small set of modules to develop with. This was in the PLC not PLM days. Where you could assemble some code, with SALadIDE and DSM308. Download it into the PLC and it could run disconnected from the computer. Only plus was Insteon was in its infancy and we actually got to interact with Insteon Engineers. That one day just disappeared and all the documentation [though flawed] went public domain for awhile before just disappearing again.

The 2450 I/OLinc can have its Sensor and Ground terminals wired to your switch. It is an earlier design so it is power line only communications. The 2843-222 has a terminal block in it. Where you can wire your switch. It is in parallel with the internal magnetic switch. So when used with the external input. The magnet is not used. It is Insteon RF only and powered by a battery.

Does the lamp have an incandescent or dimmable LED bulb? The lamp you used should not have a built in dimmer switch, high-low switch built in or low voltage bulb with a built in power supply.

I found the message in my SPAM folder tonight.

I have read that Z-Wave has such a security feature. Adding and excluding requires a very close distance between the controller and module itself.

I would suspect the power supply as a possible thing to look at. A ticket would also get you some answer's. What is the rating of the power supply as seen on its label. Some of my UDI devices came with a 500mA rated supply. The Z-Wave board will pull more current and could be getting close 500mA. I know they are selling 12VDC 1Amp supplies in their online sales page now. Like some other reports here. I too have a power supply get flaky.

What firmware and UI are you using and do they match each other? Is it the Sensor LED that does not go On or the Set LED on the side? The Sensor LED should light when the magnetic switch is closed.

Good to see you found the problem. Too bad it was a Smarthome Insteon Module's QC failure.

The 2456S3 is an older Insteon module. Power line only communications. Depending on its revision I1 only communications. So lots of power line commands maybe passing between the 2456S3 and the ISY's PLM. Is the LED on the module on? Factory Reset is in the full manual but if you don't have it and can't find it. The factory-reset procedure can be used to clear the ApplianceLinc module’s memory and restore its factory default settings. This procedure will clear the unit of all INSTEON Links, and any programmed X10 Primary Address, or X10 Scene Addresses. 1. Before resetting an ApplianceLinc that has been linked to an INSTEON Controller, be sure to unlink it from the Controller first. See Unlinking ApplianceLinc from an INSTEON Controller, above. 2. Unplug ApplianceLinc for about 10 seconds. 3. While holding down the black SET Button on ApplianceLinc, plug it back in. 4. After plugging ApplianceLinc back in, continue to hold down the black SET Button for 3 seconds. 5. Release the black SET Button. 6. After several seconds, the ApplianceLinc module’s Status LED will turn on and the device you plugged in will come on, indicating that the factory reset is complete. ApplianceLinc is now reset to all the default settings and ready for fresh programming and use. Enabling or Disabling Local Control (Load Sensing) Local Control allows you to manually turn on the device you plugged into ApplianceLinc by using the switch on the device itself, without sending a command from an INSTEON or X10 Controller. When ApplianceLinc module’s controlled (bottom) outlet is turned off (with Local Control enabled), ApplianceLinc can “sense” that you are trying to turn on your device with the device’s built-in switch. When ApplianceLinc “senses” this, it will turn on its controlled (bottom) outlet automatically. Caution: With Local Control enabled, some devices have been known to turn on your ApplianceLinc after you have turned it off. Please use this feature with caution. • For product versions 4.0 or higher Local Control is disabled by default (reference version number on label on back of unit, for example V4.0). To enable Local Control: 1. Press and hold the black SET Button on ApplianceLinc for 3 seconds. The white Status LED will begin flashing to confirm that you are in setup mode. 2. “Triple tap” the black SET Button by quickly tapping it three times. 3. The status LED on ApplianceLinc will stop flashing and Local Control will be enabled. To disable Local Control, repeat steps 1-3, substituting a “double tap” instead of a “triple tap” in step

If you have not found it yet. I would also say looking at the great wiki information along with help here. Will be a great help. https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Maybe a wise move to not do a How-To. I suspect since the 2245 has the same LNK354GN switching power supply chip. It probably has the same issues with the capacitors as the 2413S/U PLM and Revision 2 Access Points. Not being specified as OK in switching supplies.

Is the HUB the older 2242-222 or the later 2245-222? From the photo it looks more like the 2245-222 HUB. I have seen the 2242-222 mentioned here. Where someone had the network assembly removed and wired into a Serial Port PLM daughter board. If it is the newer 2245-222 can you give more details on where the serial interface was connected?

Thank you for this information. I have seen similar reports from others also. Universal Devices is on the top of my provides outstanding support list.

Even the old model 2412S power line only should work with an ISY994i. It also can supply power through the serial port connector to power it. Though it has a slower memory so things maybe slightly slower. We have seen the power supplies with an ISY controller. So trying one in some situations can correct things. Has a wide DC voltage range of 5Volts to 30Volts. Last time I looked UDI was selling a 12V 1 Amp replacement.

Glad to see you have had good results. Took me awhile to discover this myself. Mine are real early hardware revisions 4.5 and 4.6 Sirens . Long before ISY V5 firmware was released to support them. So I was not too sure if things changed if the presently sold Sirens have a later firmware.

I do remember for a short time. Smarthome did indicate a +2000 link database. The old 2412S PLM went from 417 Links to 2016 Links but with slower memory speed. Anything over around 800 Links and problems showed up. It has been 1000 Links for a long time. Well before 2.1 I do know for awhile the sales site said +2000 links. Around V2.1 and then quietly changed back to +1000. All I can say is my V2.1 has exact same 24LC64 memory chip on the daughter board. As my original V1.0 all the way to V2.5 2413S PLMs. If it was not a mistake. The +2000 link database was short lived.

There is a new Interface in the FCC Database. Bigger link database 1000-4000, can again power the ISY994i through the serial port connector, universal power supply, AC Input connector is a sub assembly and in theory could be changed for other parts of the world. USB,Serial Port and network port styes. Now if it ever sees the light of day I can't say.

There are other posts here with similar problems. Fixed with a new supply. My original supply was a 5V .5 Amp. For one and 5V 1A for another one. UDI sells a 12V 1A replacement supply on its sales site. The ISY994i has a fairly wide DC input voltage range. 5V to 30V if memory serves me.

Anyone interested in Insteon details whitepaper. It is on the Insteon.com web site. In Italy. It seems to be gone on the USA Insteon web site or I just missed it. http://www.insteon.it/documentation/insteon_details.pdf

I have seen V2.7 posted recently. Long time ago. I had a Smarthome Engineer tell me some revision updates where not for a design change but a different manufacturers equivalent part was being used. So what V2.6 and V2.7 have differently. I sure can't say. I also have a box full of older 2412S and now 2413S PLMs. ?