Brian H

A great loss to all users Stu has help. https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/24103-sad-news/

I still use a HR12A and UR19A remotes. Through an RR501. To control my older Insteon modules that could be programmed with an X10 Primary Address. X10 chime modules triggered by an ELK930 Doorbell Sensor. The chime modules also get sounded when it is time for my ISY994i to wake me up. I do have a JV Digital Engineering XTB-IIR coupler repeater. Blasts over a 10 volt X10 signal on the homes power.

UDS? You mean UDI? The Simplehomenet products do some unique things with the Insteon protocol. That only they seemed to use. For awhile Simplehomenet {now Smartenit} was not providing information to UDI so total support of their products was not possible. Not too sure if they freely exchange data now. I think the other program you maybe thinking of. Was the Simplehomenet Utilities. I looked and the link seems to be gone . Their help forums also seem to be gone of new posts. Just what was there a few years ago. I did find it directly where they stored it. https://sourceforge.net/projects/shnutilitysuite/ My EZX10RF was an early model and it would take an All Units Off and resend on the power lines a All Lights Off. That my X10 appliance type modules ignored. Sent it back and they reflashed the firmware. Unfortunately it still did it when I got it back. Sounds like something may have changed. X10 RF remotes always send multiple RF commands. Your unit for some reason is decoding it more than one time for each button push.

If the PLM is the single band 2412S. It normally supplied power to the ISY994i or older ISY99i. So they would power up together. The procedure is the same as you have pointed out. Since the PLM is not Dual Band. All your RF devices have to go through a Dual Band module and be passed on by power line. Maybe you have power line issues. The new Dual Band PLM is the 2413S and does not supply power. So you would also need a wall wart power supply unless you have one that is in the ISY994i kit.

I would probably use the new one. The main board in the 2412 series Insteon modules did have real power transformer power supply. Majority of them lasted many years. If it will be that close to the ISY994i PLM. I doubt there would be any communications issues. I agree. Their web site and your description of included paper work. Is out dated and could be confusing. They may even have in an archive the proper photos and sales pages. They originally used the base 2412 main boards in their PLM and other modules using the same main board with their custom Daughter Board. It could also be Insteon is not the most important thing they are selling these days. I see many new devices for things like Security, Zigbee, energy and others. So keeping Insteon things current may not be top priority anymore

You are not the first person indicating the new labels fonts are easier to misread. Though the stock it is printed on seems to be a more rugged plasitc over the smudgy white paper on the older units. That sometimes fell off when the glue dried out.

Thank you for the update. I am glad the problem part was found and being replaced. Hard to say about using the V1.B 2413S. Depending on how long it was in service. If it is close to the slightly over two years in use. Its power supply maybe getting close to failing. Just like the 2413S PLM failures we are seeing on our ISY994i. Dual Band would add RF communications that may help in some setups. Though it could fail in a few months. Though Smartenit didn't point it out directly. Their now Read Only Forums. Showed many failures with the Dual Band base board. Used in many of their standalone modules that where built on the base 2413 board and their Dual Band PLM models. I found on their sales pages their present model PLM is equivalent to the older Smarthome single band 2412S. The factory reset procedure they gave you is for the 2412S PLM and it looks like they did not update their literature. That still must be written for their Dual Band model PLM and maybe their other Insteon modules based on a PLM main board .

Hope you get some help from Smartenit. I had another thought. Though rare. We have seen the six digit Insteon ID wrong on the back label. If it is wrong. Trying to add it with the incorrect ID will result in what you are seeing. No responses back when trying to add it. I tried this with a 2412S PLM. In the Administrative Console. Picking the Start Linking choice. Then holding the set button on the PLM is question until it is detected. It will show the tested PLM six digit ID. Of course after the test. You have to remove it from the Administrative Console. I am not sure how much the ISY994i can set in the EZIO8SA. Their utility needs a Insteon Interface to access the EZIO8SA/PLM. It would need a computer with a serial port if you used a 2412S/2413S and the PLM interface series cable buried in the 2412S/2413S packing material. Can't say if the Smartenit PLM supplies the serial cable for a PLM. Some say you can temporarily power down the ISY994i setup and use its PLM.

Reread your early post messages. If the EZIO8SA with power supply and its PLM. Are in the same outlet as the ISY994i's PLM. I would suspect the new EZIO8SA kit you have. Has a defective part. Either their PLM is bad or the EZIO8SA is not communicating to its PLM. One added thing to try is a different network style cable between the EZIO8SA and its PLM. My old EZIO8SA that would need an update {their web information page} for a 2413S PLM. Did add to my system with a 2413S and 12 volt supply. Though their Smartenit utility may not have properly controlled it. I didn't go much further.

I too forgot there are Lithium AA and AAA cells. They do run higher in voltage. I just measured some AA and AAA ones. From package ~1.7V DC 50mA load and ~1.65V DC 100mA load.

If you have +12 volts on the 12 volt terminal to common. It is getting power. I can't say how it will act with their latest PLM. As it may act differently than my older 2412S PLM. Mine has a single color LED {I have seen White or Blue mentioned}. When powered up. The LED on the side of the PLM lights. Then a second or so later flashes off and on bright a few times as it is initialized to what the EZIO8SA requires. Tried a Factory Reset. Held the Set button at power up for ten seconds. The LED was on bright. When I released the Set button. The LED went out while it reset then came back to it normal brightness. If the EZIO8SA was connected. It went through the initialization sequence again. Actually every time it power up. It did the initialization again. This is for an old EZIO8SA from the Compacta days and a late revision 2412S. So how it acts now maybe different. Your photo looks like the single band as they indicate it has the pass through outlet on the front. Just like the older 2412PLMs. The later 2413s Dual Band based module. has no pass through outlet on the front. I suspect they got from Smartlabs a base 2412 main board and later revision serial port board with no F1 fuse on it to pass power to the EZIO8SA. https://smartenit.com/product/ezicomm/ EZIO8SA kit says single band power line only . " Product appearance may be different than what is shown. " I would definitely call them about the kit being single band and how the LED on the side of their PLM should act at power up. That should help and determine if it is acting correctly and maybe a power line signal issue. I also saw that the photos on the sales pages didn't match the descriptions. Yours has the pass through outlet and the sales pages show the case with no pass through outlet. Though the sales page does indicate it has a pass through outlet.

Smartenit indicates the 5010K is now a single band PLM. Due to availability from Smartlabs and not a 2413S Dual Band equivalent. Equivalent to a 2412S PLM. The 2412S use to supply power to the EZIO8SA through the cable between them. I don't know if the present one from Smartenit has the power on the serial cable. As their EZIO8SA kit with a 5010K also includes a 12 volt 600mA 5.5mm X 2.5mm wall wart. Are you powering the EZIO8SA wit a 12 Volt wall wart? Maybe it is not getting any power. Some of the earlier information I gave you was for a 2413S PLM so the factory reset maybe incorrect. As the older 2412S did not have a dual color LED or beeper. Old memory here. I believe powering the PLM up while holding the set button for thirty seconds would do a Factory Reset. I suspect the EZIO8SA is not getting any power if you don't have a wall wart supply.

I don't see any SRX message received back from the PLM connected to the EZIO8SA. You may want to check the six digit Insteon ID on the PLM connected to the EZIO8SA label. Sometimes we see the ID read wrong. The newer ID labels have some numerals and letters like 0 and 8 looking similar and read incorrectly. Also try moving the EZIO8SA with PLM to another outlet and see if you have a communications issue between the ISY994i's PLM and the EZIO8SA with its PLM. When you first power it up. Does the LED on the side of the PLM flash on and off a few times as the EZIO8SA connects and initializes the PLM to identify as a EZIO8SA and not a PLM? Is the PLM a new 2413S or Smartenit EZIComm? My 2413S resets by powering Off for at least 10 seconds. Holding the SET button plug it back in. Keep holding it until is starts beeping and continue holding until the beeping stops. Then release the set button. It will reset and then do a short beep. Since it is on a EZIO8SA the LED will probably flash a few times as the EZIO8SA initializes the connected PLM.

Yes I was thinking about the Motion Sensor II. Thanks for the correction. No telling how good the original ones where or if the ten years is a typical calculation. I had a AA cell in a Open Closed Sensor package. Weak from the factory.

The older 2412S is single band so the sensors have to have their RF signals passed to the PLM from another Dual Band Module. RF can be strange so I can't say whey you seem to see one sensor OK and one ten feet from it is flaky. I looked. The Amazon basics CR132A are a three volt Lithium battery. If that is what you used they should work fine. I didn't see the capacity rating on then but I doubt they would be any worse than the original ones Smarthome is using. Only thing I did see was a warning about one brand of camera. My guess would be the camera may have high current spikes when being used. I did find in a search. An alkaline A132. It was also a 3 volt cell but it probably would have a much lower life. A rechargeable CR132 it also was a 3 volt cell.

The old 2412S that also supplies power is a completely different design. The 2413S that has a poor power supplies is what most are reporting failed. I have seen lots of 2413S failure reports but not too many 2412S ones. The 2412S has a slower clock speed and as the link database fills up it could get slower as device are added. Depending on its age it probably has the >2000 entry database. I have seen reports anything over 800 links and it starts missing stuff. I doubt it is so old it has the 417 link database. It would fill up quickly and some links would roll out of the database as more is added. If you have the revision number on the back. it would be a clue to what it has. The firmware reported ni the PLM Info test would also give a clue.

Glad you found the issues. Thanks for keeping us informed.

I have seen reports that even the higher end Lutron manual dimmers can flicker on line noise and certain model bulbs. They make a AC input filter to remove the incoming noise from the manual dimmer. Cost in line with the Lutron name and too expensive for my tastes.

UPS units have a power line conditioner in them. Many will absorb the Insteon power line signals. Even if is not a bad noise maker. You may want to FilterLinc it any way. Unless your equipment uses over its 10 amp fuse rating. There are still a few 15 amp X10 ones {FilterLinc was originally an X10 one} still made that can be used. I suspect the power supplies in the dimmer switches and plug in modules are a different design. Both look like small switcher. The plug in are 120V 60Hz and the wall switches 100V-277V. 50/60Hz. That may contribute to the level of sensitivity to power line noise. Between a plug in and a wired in wall dimmer.

Glad you got it working again. I will have to remember the Replace With Function could be used. Thank you for verifying it. Floating ANI1 and ANI2 inputs can cause noise to randomly trigger them on and off. I can see why the loss of them being held at Common with the jumper. Could cause issues.

Never used a EZIO8SA with an ISY994i. Mine are originaly released one from Compacta with original now obsolete firmware. My tests with a spare PLM and EZIO8SA was not conclusive. That sound interesting. If you added it with the new PLM and not deleting the old one. Would the replace with function in the Administrative Console. Put it new Insteon ID from the EZIO8SA/PLM into the devices linked to it. A total back up of the ISY994i before anything should be done.

The replacement PLM will have a different Insteon six digit ID number with the device Category and Subcategory written in the PLM to the ones used by the EZIO8SA. I am not sure how the ISY994i controller handles the EZIO8SA. I agree that for now. You don't do anything that may loose everything. I tied looking at the Smartenit Wiki for some information. Got a page 401 page not found for the EZIO8SA and their forums are gone.

It does sound like the relay is in the continuous mode. First time you turn it On it goes On and stays there. Like you are holding the button. So you send a command and it turns back Off. Then the next turns it back On to then have the door go its other position.

Some dimmable LED bulbs. May have a AC rated capacitor directly across the AC input to suppress the internal electronics noise. Some add a small coil before the capacitor on the Line terminal. So they don't absorb power line signals like X10 or Insteon. Since the I/O Linc is power line only. Some LED bulbs could also absorb power line signals.

Depending on the buzzer you used. The Siren Module will be much louder. Try it leaving the optional plastic piece over the sound port first. Mine is painful when you are close and the sound port fully open.