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I haven't come across this specific answer in 'search'. If 'sensing mode' is checked, it is my understanding that motion is sensed during the timeout period, the timer is reset, but it DOES NOT send an ON signal until motion is sensed again after the timeout. In other words, if the delay is set for 60 minutes, the timer will be reset if motion is detected before 60 minutes, and OFF command will be sent after 6o minutes, but no ON commands will be sent during that time. Is that correct? For an occupancy sensor, I don't want an ON command sent out during the 60 minute delay, seems like a lot of unnecessary network traffic.

I purchased a starter kit on Amazon for the dimmer modules ($42 for the kit, which included 2 dimmer modules), but I am thinking about using the hub for cameras. Are there any issues having an Insteon hub and ISY online at the same time? I am not planning on linking any of my devices to the hub. Does it interfere with my current PLM at all? Hub is 2245-222 (rev. 1.4)

I've been wanting to get the network module and play, just find it hard to find the time.

Any user experiences with this guy? I assume it is compatible with 994. I want to use it with an Elk 4 channel voice module. Thanks. http://smartenit.com/product/iot4r/

i don't have it closing automatically, but I can control it through the portal, so it may be unattended. When it receives the close (or open) signal, I turn on a siren and strobe and wait 5 seconds before the door moves. The siren and strobe stay on until the door motion is complete. And, of course, the standard safety interlocks are in place.

Yeah, not sure why I got away from it. . . .

Not really. I used to use scenes for everything, even manual controls, when I had the 26. When I upgraded to the 994, I got away from that. If that is the case, that the KPL will stay updated, I should re-valuate that strategy. i am using scenes to control the status of the button LED.

Ok, but I don't care about the button state, I want it to send the opposite of the DEVICE state. If the device is controlled by something other that the button, ie, schedule, different button etc. it throws it out of sync, right? Maybe it's because I'm not doing it as scenes, but programming?

Maybe so. Like I said, I was assuming the KPL acts exactly like the mini-remote, so I coded it the same way. It may be simpler with the KPL, I need to play. This is the first KPL I've ever had since my boxes do not have neutral. I ordered it with the tabletop box and it just came in today.

I like the Bacoeng, it seems pretty solid and I like the fact that it is 110v, but be forewarned, on mine the connection inside the plug already broke. The wires are like 28 ga or something, I already have to replace the plug with something more substantial.

It is configured as an on/off toggle. I would like it to read the status of the target device and send the appropriate command ie, if the device is on, send off and vice versa. Since it does not appear to do that, I would just like it to be a momentary (on while pressed) or a one-shot (on for a specified period of time, ie, 1 second, then off. That is what I'm creating in software with the state variable.

Hmmm, I did set up a scene for each LED so I can control it independently, but it still follows the button status. I need to play some more.. . . .

Yes, when I was designing industrial control systems (hardware and software) I used the 'what if' test extensively.

Yeah, I haven't really explored the difference in the KPL. I just assumed the functionality is the same as the mini-remote. I wish on the KPL that I could get the LED to ignore the status of the button. I want the LED to display the status of the device the button is controlling regardless of how it was turned on or off.

I don't think so, if I understand what you're saying. The toggle mode just toggles back and forth between on and off and doesn't care about the status of the device. So if the remote turned it on, the button will be on. If something else turns it off, the next press of the remote button will have no effect because it sends an off command. It has to be pressed again to generate an on command. I use the one-shot to evaluate the status. When you press the button if the device is on, send off, if the device is off, send an on. Maybe there's a simpler way to do it, but I couldn't think of one. It works perfectly. I Generate OneShot - [iD 009D][Parent 0095] If Control 'MBR KPL Button B' is switched On Or Control 'MBR KPL Button B' is switched Off Then $MBR_KPL_B_Mom = 1 Wait 1 second $MBR_KPL_B_Mom = 0 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Turn ON - [iD 009E][Parent 0095] If $MBR_KPL_B_Mom is 1 And Status 'MBR-Corner Lamp' is Off Then Set 'MBR-Corner Lamp' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Turn OFF - [iD 009F][Parent 0095] If $MBR_KPL_B_Mom is 1 And Status 'MBR-Corner Lamp' is not Off Then Set 'MBR-Corner Lamp' Off Set Scene 'MBR KPL Indicator B' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Push on/Push off control. Without having to press twice if the device is controlled by something else, such as schedule, other control, etc.

Thanks, that's exactly what I'm seeing. I guess the intended use is to use the button for ON only, turn the target device OFF with something else. I do wish it was momentary instead, or one-shot. Right now I have a program to test for ON or OFF (toggle mode), set a state variable to 1 for one second, then back to 0 to create a one-shot. Then the one-shot triggers the program that evaluates the status of the target device and sends the correct command, ON or OFF. It works well, but requires 3 programs and a variable per control. I have not used KPL's before, I assume they act the same way, I have one coming in today.

Agree. Coming from an industrial automation background, I always think about stuff like that. I will also have a hall effect flow sensor inline. Haven't decided yet how I'm going to use it. The motorized ball valve will be bypassed by a manual ball valve and I have an upstream cutoff.

I ordered this one off of Amazon. Seems like pretty decent quality, although I haven't installed it yet. I like that it is 120V, so I can just operate it with an on/off module, no separate power supply needed. It is normally closed - 120V opens it, remove 120V and it is spring return to close. I'll be installing a bypass valve for manual control if it fails or power goes off. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PVQFTHW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm not sure I understand the 'non-toggle' mode. It looks like once you turn it on by pressing the button, it stays on and never turns off. I use the toggle mode to simulate a momentary so I can do 'press on/press off' (without any extra presses due to sync issues) with all 8 buttons and control 8 devices. I'm wondering if there is something I am missing about the 'non-toggle' mode that I can do instead.

This is true, for that reason and others I am a big fan of use of flags in programs, but I like simplicity, too. One thing. . . . if I set a variable and use it as a flag that one of the sensors has gone offline, that flag will stay set and I can check it periodically. If it just sends one text message, I may miss it.

This is exactly what I'm using, seems like it should work fine, I'm wondering why a lot of folks are using the variable version, where when there is a leak a variable goes to '2' and takes action. Am I missing something?

Yeah, going to switch them around and see what happens.

That's what I initially thought, too, but a)the minimum time is 30 seconds (I believe that's where I set it, also) and it seems like it would send both recipients two messages not just one recipient. My wife (Deidra) only gets one.

Motion - [iD 003B][Parent 005D] If Control 'Gate Motion Detected' is switched On Then Set 'Rear Floods' Fast On Run Program 'Motion Alerts' (Then Path) Send Notification to 'Jim Text' content 'Motion Side' Wait 5 seconds Send Notification to 'Deidra Text' content 'Motion Side' Wait 5 minutes Set 'Rear Floods' Off Send Notification to 'Jim Text' content 'Motion Side Off' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') For some reason the ISY is re-sending 'Jim Text' when it sends 'Deidra Text', so I am getting 2 texts, 5 seconds apart. I know it's the ISY because of the time stamp: alerts@universal-devices.com (Motion Detected) Back Yard Gate at 1:34:52 AM on 2016/08/02 alerts@universal-devices.com (Motion Detected) Back Yard Gate at 1:34:57 AM on 2016/08/02 Ideas? Thanks