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Seems good here also so far on B.. just came from A but was having one last issue with my Z-Wave Schlage Connect not updating a status after a while so some of my programs are not running right at times. Did not have that before going to 5.0.16A from 4.7.3. I just tried to set the option to not automatically put battery devices back to sleep. Hoping that helps. Seems my leak sensor activation, notices and Dome water valve all shut off during a test so that is good now. Keep up the great work UDI!!

Other than the Schlage lock and Dome water valve name change (no biggie) everything seems to be ok after grooming through programs and disabling some that were not enabled. I made a list before the upgrade and also copied the programs folder to a text file to refer back to. I would prefer to not have to start from scratch for the Schlage Z-Wave lock. Are there options at this point to bring things back or do I just have to add it again and fix/rebuild my lock programs? Would downgrading and trying again be worth while? I did follow the synchronize Z-Wave nodes & restart console before going into program tabs during the upgrade.

I do see this may be ok as it seems my programs for the valve all reference it also... I'm trying to see why my lock is missing. That is bothering me a bit. All my lock programs look broke. This was one where it would lock the door at 10PM .. Front Door Lock - [ID 001D][Parent 006E] If Time is 10:00:00PM And Status (Old) <Not Specified> is null Then Response type 10 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Well my luck would have it that my Z-Wave devices are having problems. My Schlage Connect is not there and my Dome Water valve looks like it is showing up as a Binary Switch.. fun stuff.

Yes.. I will follow the process outlined here. Hopeful this will give me options I am looking for with scenes. Thanks again!

Thank you!

Quick question.. Looking over the pre-requisites for Z-Wave. If you are already on 4.55 you do not need to do anything correct? I do not have any means to shift a Z-Wave controller. The ISY is my only controller for Z-Wave. I only have 2 Z-Wave devices.. a Schlage Connect & a Dome Water Shutoff valve Just want to be sure I understand the procedure based on what I have. Thanks..

Just wanted to say for the program test it is working as expected now bit I did remove the Christmas tree as it was a take from my night program that I don't expect any conflict I am going to tattoo "Status" and "Control" definitions on my forehead and beat it into my brain!! Then work on other suggestions mentioned here for options. Thanks to everyone for your kind help.. Really appreciate the experience and willingness to help keep the rest of my hair I got left. Front Lights On Dark 2 - [ID 0099][Parent 0072] If From 5:00:00AM To Sunrise + 1 second (same day) And ( Control 'Front-Door / Front Door-Opened' is switched On ) Then Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Are you using status or control on your open program? Without seeing the program it is hard to say but I have used status and it has bit me on things like this. If you use control it only executes when the condition is met. If I'm saying that right. Posting the program may help with others to look at.. Edit: Sorry.. looks like Oberck was ahead of me after reading more.

Thanks for the reminder on that.. Interesting thoughts. Given the time of this program most likely I will not be having the trees on manually or through a program so I might just remove it to eliminate the possibility. But then that one time it is on I will probably annoy me if the X-Mas lights were on and the front lights popped on opening the door :).

Thank you .. I appreciate the options and advice. Glad to know there are a few ways to do things and seeing that is helpful.

I think Control got me once before in a situation like this.. I don't know why I forgot about that.

So the door does get closed right away usually.. The tree is actually outside X-Mas lights so I don't want the front light to come on if they are on. It should all be met within 5 minutes.

It is a Insteon 2843-222 Open / Close sensor and has a control option.. I'll give it a try! Thank you..

I'm going to try adding it to the else now as well.. Last time it triggered my evening program I believe but I removed the "IF" statement for being off so maybe it will work this way again and not impact my evening program. Front Lights On Dark 2 - [ID 0099][Parent 0072] If From 5:00:00AM To Sunrise + 1 second (same day) And ( Status 'Christmas Tree' is Off And Status 'Front-Door / Front Door-Opened' is On ) Then Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' Off Else Wait 5 minutes Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' Off

So I have not been back yet as the 1st option has kind of stumped me just trying it and I think I have about lost my wits trying to understand why. The program runs ok and turns the light on now and does not impact my evening program turning it off but it doesn't turn off at all. I have similar programs that do as expected so I really feel my eyes are getting the better part of me and I'm missing something. Does anyone see why the lights should not shut off after the 5 minutes wait period? Thanks in advance! Stan Front Lights On Dark 2 - [ID 0099][Parent 0072] If From 5:00:00AM To Sunrise + 1 second (same day) And ( Status 'Christmas Tree' is Off And Status 'Front-Door / Front Door-Opened' is On ) Then Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

I might end up with that as well.. I agree with eliminating that 1% area especially if that one time we happen to leave the door open. Trying both options helps me think it through as well and learn. Can't thank you both enough for sharing your experience & expertise.

In the case of the AM program I would have to say 99% of the time the door will get closed right after leaving. Too early to be leaving a door open a that time in the AM.

I'm testing the program modification with kclenden's instructions first as it was easy enough to modify.. I'll certainly post back and confirm. Thanks again and have a great weekend! Best, Stan

Thanks Guys.. Very helpful information.. I'll make some changes and certainly post back what I ended up with. Have a great weekend! Best, Stan

Hi Guys & Gals.. Hope everyone are doing great! I am going in circles here and I'm sure it is something simple but I'm off track and hit the dirt. I have a program that turns the front porch lights on in the evening when the front door is opened and it has been working ok for me up until I added a program to also turn it on in the morning when it is still dark out. My wife's schedule changed and now leaves before it gets light so was trying to make it safer for her. Problem is in the morning program I want the lights to shut off after 5 minutes of the door closing and put this in the "Then" statement initially but they didn't shut off so I put it in the "Else" statement and it worked. The problem came in where the evening program now shuts off after 5 minutes now so the "Else" statement is triggering it. I tried to work on a separate program to turn them off but things stopped working all together so I just removed them for now as I must not made some errors. If you have any suggestions it may help me from pulling the last hairs I have .. Thanks in advance Stan. This is the Evening Program: Front Lights On Dark 1 - [ID 007E][Parent 0072] If From Sunset + 1 minute To 11:59:00PM (same day) And ( Status 'Christmas Tree' is Off And Status 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' is Off And Control 'Front-Door / Front Door-Opened' is switched On ) Then Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This is the AM Program: Front Lights On Dark 2 - [ID 0099][Parent 0072] If From 5:00:00AM To Sunrise + 1 second (same day) And ( Status 'Christmas Tree' is Off And Status 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' is Off And Control 'Front-Door / Front Door-Opened' is switched On ) Then Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' Off Else Wait 5 minutes Set 'Front Lights and Porch / Front Lights' Off

Thanks.. I do have a lot of folders organizing rooms itself with the milti devices in each. Don't use times with them yet but good to know.

Thanks again Larry! I'll update it and see how it goes.. How do you know all this stuff :)??

So although this change in program would resolve the initial issue it seems it introduces another.. Now with the control being set as the trigger, after set time in wait in else statement the lights do not shut off. Actually, I do not even see the program turn red as it has before when in countdown. It seems to skip over the else now. Any thoughts? Thanks, Stan

Thank you Larry! I was thinking it was more than that... glad overall it would be simple although for me I wasn’t sure but thought there had to be a way.. You just made a few of my programs feel a ton better Thanks again Stan