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Michael, A nudge in the direction of the many work arounds would be appreciated.

I ran my EZflora in parallel with the existing controller without any problems. I just removed the programming from the rainbird controller. It was easier, at the time, for my wife to do some quick watering from the rainbird. We pump from a creek which is fresh water, but is also tide effected so I can't irrigate on a fixed schedule as at low tide my pickup is out of water. The old controller in time died, so now the EZflora is the one and only. Have had no issues with it. If you don't have the manual for your existing system, look around on on-line. That should help you identify the wiring. Once you have that, you should be able to match it up to the documentation for the EZFlora. Paul

I'm also interested in the answer. Paul

If I have a program with no if condition and set it for 'startup' will it run the 'then' after a power failure. And, do the 'startups' run before or after the schedule catchup?

With our layout, the only way I could have good x10 communication was with the use of Smarthome boosterlinc's which gave me solid performance. However, as I added more Inseton devices, (at about 25-30) I did start to see bright / dim issues with x10 which I attributed to signal absorbtion . At that point I just made the decision to move more quickly to insteon.

Have you checked to see if any of your devices are v35. I had considerable problems similar to yours until I had them all replaced. Since then, life is good.

Just a side note. I have at least 10 magnetic transformers on insteon dimmers and have never had any issues. Many of them are used daily, and have been in use for years. Paul

Changing link mgt mode made the difference for me! It is a 2486D v36 6 button unchanged. Appreciate the help from you both!

Well, here is my level 3. I had reset all to toggle before starting the log. This was from just setting "c" to toggle off. Tue 11/30/2010 06:22:16 PM : [12 C1 31 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0249 [10] Tue 11/30/2010 06:22:18 PM : [12 C1 31 1 ] Memory : EPROM Refreshed I should also note that at this time I do not have any links to the c button.

Lee, Thanks, will post the results when I get home tonight.

OK, back in the AM. A reset and restore of the device did not correct the problem. My question now is this a possible firmware issue, or a device problem? Or, something else...

Possibly time for me to upgrade firmware. Yes, I selected the button before changing mode, and bringing up the popup again reflects the "change". Have to move along for tonight, will report back tomorrow with the restore, and or upgrade effects.

Lee, It is a 2486 v36. Tried the 30 second power down, no change. LED still toggles on and off. ISY shows it as non-toggle off (set via ISY). If there are no know issues, I will do a factory reset and restore. ISY 2.7.15

I have set up a button on a kpl to non-toggle off. I am still seeing the led turn on and off with each push, and the following events for a double push. Mon 11/29/2010 06:19:37 PM : [ 12 C1 31 5] DON 0 Mon 11/29/2010 06:19:37 PM : [ 12 C1 31 5] ST 255 Mon 11/29/2010 06:19:39 PM : [ 12 C1 31 5] DOF 0 Mon 11/29/2010 06:19:39 PM : [ 12 C1 31 5] ST 0 I was expecting no led, and an off for each push. Am I expecting wrong?

Lee, I have never had to use a wait on a scene, has this always been the case? Or, have I just not hit the right mix of commands to create a problem? I have had to use a wait with x10 commands.

Also, your programs will need to have the folder conditions repeated, in addition to any other conditions you may have for them. They will not run just because the folder conditions have been satisfied.

Had a similar problem with a EZFlora running in parallel with a Rainbird controller. For many weeks it was fine. Then I came home one night to have my pump running with no zones active, seems to have been that way for several hours. I was using the EZFlora exclusively but had left the Rainbird there as backup should I want to use it. Turned out the Rainbird had activated the pump. Removed the Rainbird controller and have not had a problem since.

Just a hint when using folders with logic. Just because the conditions for the folder are met, does not mean all the programs will run. The programs within the folder must contain the same condition(s) from the folder in addition to any other required conditions. You will find this in the docs, but easily overlooked. I'm sure more than one of us has fought that fight.

I just use one button, when it is off it is 'at home' when pushed it is 'away'. It has no links to anything. You can use that for testing in your logic, along with any other items like sunset etc. to give the lived in look.

SH will replace any v35's. From my experience if you have any of them, replace them all whether they are causing issues or not.

Sorry for the slow response. The new access points worked fine, but I ended up replacing all my v.35's, even the ones which were not giving any issues. That made the biggest difference. I also ran into the fact that I had a new central ac unit installed which was putting noise on the lines whether running or not. Ended up putting a filter on both sides of the 220 line which took care of that. Currently my system is running fine, sort of hate to say that out loud. Thanks for your concern and input.

I'm with Tim, try to organize by where device is located, but things do go down hill from there.

Been there done that twice! Feel your pain. They replaced 18 of mine due to the issue you are having. However, they replaced them with v35's which drove me nuts. They replaced them all again and life is good! aLf, would suggest you just call customer service, just have your invoice info available. Paul

Thanks for the response. Pointed me away from focusing on the switching code. Problem turned out to be the device you identified, appears to just be a timing issue. All is well, thanks again.

Here is a more detail log, of the same issue, two pushes of the same RL button. The only insteon network activity should be from the push of the button, nothing should be generated from the ISY or elsewhere. I know little on reading the log, any pointers there would be appreciated. I do know that the entry "Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [ 11 C8 44 1] DON 3" is the one that is kicking my unwanted program true. Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:41 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 11.C8.44 00.00.03 C7 11 00 LTONRR (00) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:41 AM : [ 11 C8 44 3] DON 0 Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:41 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 11.C8.44 00.00.03 C7 11 00 LTONRR (00) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:41 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 11.C8.44 00.00.03 C7 11 00 LTONRR (00): Process Message: failed Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:41 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 11.C8.44 12.9F.46 41 11 03 LTONRR (03) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:42 AM : [ Time] 05:56:44 2(0) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:42 AM : [ Time] 05:56:44 2(0) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:42 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 11.C8.44 00.00.03 C7 11 00 LTONRR (00) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:42 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0A.9D.32 0F 11 BF 06 LTONRR (BF) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:42 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0A.9D.32 0F 11 BF 06 LTONRR (BF): Process ACK: duplicate ignored Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:42 AM : [ 11 C8 44 3] DON 0 Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:42 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0A.9D.32 12.9F.46 2B 11 BF LTONRR (BF) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [ Time] 05:56:45 2(0) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 11.C8.44 12.9F.46 42 11 03 LTONRR (03) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0A.9D.32 0F 11 BF 06 LTONRR (BF) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0A.9D.32 0F 11 BF 06 LTONRR (BF): Process ACK: duplicate ignored Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [ 11 C8 44 1] DON 3 Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0A.9D.32 12.9F.46 2B 11 BF LTONRR (BF) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [ Time] 05:56:46 2(0) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0A.9D.32 0F 11 BF 06 LTONRR (BF) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:43 AM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 0A.9D.32 0F 11 BF 06 LTONRR (BF): Process ACK: duplicate ignored Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:44 AM : [ Time] 05:56:46 2(0) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:44 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0A.9D.32 12.9F.46 2B 11 BF LTONRR (BF) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:44 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 0A.9D.32 12.9F.46 2B 11 BF LTONRR (BF): Process Message: failed Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:46 AM : [ Time] 05:56:49 2(0) Thu 06/24/2010 05:56:48 AM : [ Time] 05:56:51 2(0)