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Paul - Thanks, I'll try it out. I think I had this at one point, but was still getting notifications. oberkc, I'm 100% sure I had this first and something didn't work right, but if status doesn't change getting the notification then I'll try this method. The main desire is to get confirmation (through the email notification) that the light had been turned off. I just hate leaving this light on randomly. I don't want/need notification every time it is turned off, but only if the timer triggered it to turn off. Thanks for the quick replies. If there are other methods I'm willing to try those as well.

I've tried a few searches, but cannot find the method of doing what I am attempting so wanted to ask for the best/proper way to handle this... I have a light in the a room that will get left on that I would like to turn off after 20 or 30 minutes and get a notification email that the light went off. I've had it working decently, but found that even if the light is turned off the program runs and send me an email at 20 minutes saying it turned the light off...even though it was manually turned off within 3-5 minutes of it going on. The program is currently setup like this: ------------------------------------------ Bonus Light - Off - [ID 0040][Parent 0001][Run At Startup] If Control 'Bonus' is switched On Then Wait 30 minutes Set 'Bonus' Off Send Notification to 'Primary Email' content 'Bonus Timed Off' Else Stop program 'Bonus Light - Off' ------------------------------------------ What I'm trying to accomplish is to set it to turn the light off, but only notify me if it had to be turned off by timer. If the light is manually turned off then it shouldn't be turned off by timer, and shouldn't email me. I'm guessing the "best/proper" way would be to somehow break this up into 3 programs, but I was hoping that there was a simple 1 program way to do this. Looking forward to the process. ISY firmware version 4.6.2

We haven't noticed any down time, and use Echo in 3 rooms. Other than it not hearing clear commands (thanks to a loud child or other background noise) it's worked just fine the numerous times we've used it (and trust me, during summer break it's getting a workout by wife and kid). Other than a few ISP dropped connections (due to storms) we haven't had any issues.

Thanks for the help! Also got some help from nathagt. Ended up having to go through the process again. Since iOS doesn't have "forget all devices" in the app I had to go through that process on the web access to Alexa/Echo. For my fix: Go to: https://alexa.amazon.com/spa/index.html#appliances "Forget all" turn off V3 allow things to update (I gave it about 10 minutes) re-enable V3 & link account discover items Bingo! Things were back with light bulbs, switches, and scenes like they should be. I recreated a routine in the iPhone Alexa App to test turning off a few lights with the routine option (rather than programs or scenes from ISY), and it worked as it had in V2. All seems to be working right now. It's a pain that the step of forgetting all devices when going from V2 to V3 is only available through the web access with Alexa and not on the smartphone app (at least for iOS). Thanks all for the help! -Scott

When you say "in alexa app" do you mean the smartphone app or on the computer? I found that the "delete all" or "forget all" was only available on the web connection (https://alexa.amazon.com/spa/index.html) with Echo. The latest version of the iPhone app doesn't have a "delete all" function. So, the steps of updating from V2 to V3 said to forget all devices, but didn't specifically say to use the computer side. There was mention of it later in the discussion somewhere, but never put in the wiki that was linked in a recent email about updating to V3.

I can't explain it much better. It's just there is a "routine" option in the Echo app. When they introduced it last year it seemed to be an "easier" way to setup a process to turn off a bunch of lights without having to make a scene or program in the ISY. It saved me tons of "programming" time and made it easy for my family to turn off most nonessential lights. Now, with the V3 update I can't get the "routine" option to trigger any lights turning off. I can add lights, but they show up as houses with what I call "wifi" icons inside them. They don't look the same as they did before. I've gone back into the ISY portal to make sure everything is shown as a switch or light. Nothing changes on the Echo/Alexa app side. I have removed the entire routine, and recreated it. I went through the steps of forgetting all devices and turning off V2 then enabling V3 and then rediscovering the devices. Everything seemed to populate back into the Alexa app on the phone (iPhone X iOS 11.2.5). I can control some lights as usual, but some that I just installed (Fanlinc and switches) aren't showing in the new V3 even though they are in my portal. The stuff that does show up in the Alexa App shows up as I mentioned above and shown in the original post. It's interesting that each device shows up and each spoken option shows up as different devices. I have multiple spoken phrases for most lights for when family comes over they can control the lights with the Alexa with common phrases for rooms/lights in case they don't know what we specifically call it maybe they can get close enough...if we're not there. Thanks for the help. Hopefully it's a simple re-set process. I'll try forgetting the devices and re-enable V3 again tonight when I'm home.

Similar to this post (https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/23234-problem-with-routine) I'm having an issue with the V3 update and how routines work (or rather don't work). Background: Under V2 we had a "routine" in Alexa/Echo that we could simply say, "Alexa, time for bed". The result would be that it would turn off about 15 lights no matter their status. This was setup within the Alexa smartphone app (iOS). Current issue: I went through the steps to remove/deactivate V2 and "forget devices" on the computer side of Echo/Alexa. I then added V3 and found devices. Everything seems to work when I say, "Alexa, turn kitchen on" - the kitchen will turn on. (The kitchen is a Device/Light on the portal page connection). When I created the routine as we had before nothing happens. You can only create the routine on the smartphone app (I don't see routines available on the web version for Echo). Here are some screen shots showing what I see and what we're trying. Alexa/Echo made it so easy with the routines to not have to say "alexa turn "something" on" to do what we wanted. It made it easier to remember and simple for us to just say, "Alexa, time for bed" and it worked. Pictures: Menu you get on the smarphone app when opened from top left of phone Creating a new routine shows this screen Called the routine "bedtime" (for this test only). I added the kitchen light to the routine for testing. We should be able to say, "Alexa, bedtime" and it will turn the kitchen light off. This shows the kitchen and kitchen light as options. They are different because we have 2 spoken names for the kitchen ("kitchen" and "kitchen light" control the same device/switches) This shows that we want it to turn off the "kitchen" This shows how the kitchen setup in the ISY portal with the Echo connectivity. I'd like to get this working again, since it was so easy in the past. In the post linked above it got hijacked and the issue seemed not to be understood exactly what was going on. There was a suggestion made by nathagt (https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/23234-problem-with-routines/page-2?do=findComment&comment=230389) that might work...I'm going to head off to try that soon, but wanted to ask if the easy way of having a routine was broken somehow with V3 and point out the steps we went through to create this previously. It shouldn't break something in an update, but if Echo and UD aren't working together then I'm sure they could have broken the functionality of this. It was a welcomed process with Echo added "Routines". Hopefully it will be usable in the near future without having to reset a lot of different things. I look forward to suggestions! -Scott