RichTJ99 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Hi, I have a driveway alarm & it is tied into a triggerlinc. It does the following things: If it is between 6pm & 6am it will turn on the outside lights for 20 minutes then shut them off. It will send me an email It will run a network resource (a beep from XBMC through outside speakers). I want the network resource to be first. I also want to add another item that will cause the basement lights to turn on & off a few times (since I cant hear the beep in the basement). How do I make the network resource first? Driveway1 If Control 'Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On And From 6:35:00PM To 6:35:00AM (next day) Then Run Program 'Driveway Alarm Lights2' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Driveway Alarm Lights 2 If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Set Scene 'Outside' On Wait 5 seconds Set Scene 'Outside' On Wait 25 minutes Set Scene 'Outside' Off Wait 5 seconds Set Scene 'Outside' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Driveway Beep ---- NETWORK RESOURCE - SHOULD BE FIRST If Control 'Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Resource 'Driveway Alarm Beep' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Driveway Email If Control 'Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Send Notification to 'Rich Email' content 'Driveway Alarm Alert' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
LeeG Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Add a Wait to the Programs that should run with a delay. Link to comment
oberkc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I would take a slightly diffent allocation of tasks, triggers, and programs: If Control 'Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On then Resource 'Driveway Alarm Beep' Send Notification to 'Rich Email' content 'Driveway Alarm Alert' Run driveway alarm (if path) else Modify your driveway alarm code, and disable this program: If From 6:35:00PM To 6:35:00AM (next day) Then Set Scene 'Outside' On Wait 5 seconds Set Scene 'Outside' On Wait 25 minutes Set Scene 'Outside' Off Wait 5 seconds Set Scene 'Outside' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 Hrmm, so in this case it would run: The network resource Then Send an email Then run program (driveway alarm) Driveway alarm program checks the time, if its 6-6 then turn on lights How can I do a 'flash' of the downstairs 'basement' scene? Is there a way to leave it in the last state, so if the basement lights are off, they flash on/off/on/off / last state (off)? Or if I am in the basement with the lights on then it would do off/on/off/on last state (on)? Thanks, Rich Link to comment
oberkc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 How can I do a 'flash' of the downstairs 'basement' scene? There is no "flash" command in insteon, so the only way I know to do this is through a program. I forget the exact program language, but it is something like: repeat three times turn light on wait x seconds turn light off Link to comment
apostolakisl Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 How can I do a 'flash' of the downstairs 'basement' scene? There is no "flash" command in insteon, so the only way I know to do this is through a program. I forget the exact program language, but it is something like: repeat three times turn light on wait x seconds turn light off Yes, and if you want it to work so that it stays in the same state. If status basement light is not off and driveway sensor goes off Then turn light off wait 1 sec turn light on If status basement light is off and driveway sensor goes off Then turn light on wait 1 sec turn light off Although I tend to think the second program is not necessary since I'm guessing the basement light off means you aren't in the basement. Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 So I am working on this now. I am a little confused on the basement flashing part. I am using a scene called Scene: Basement This turns on a scene that has 4 insteon switches turning on. I dont see scenes listed in the program options. Is there a different way of doing this? Here is what i came up with for the rest thanks to you guys: Main Program If Control 'Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Resource 'Driveway Alarm Beep' Send Notification to 'Rich Email' content 'Driveway Alarm Alert' Run Program 'Driveway Alarm Lights2' (If) Wait 30 seconds Run Program 'Driveway Alarm Basement' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Driveway Alarm Lights2 If From 6:30:00PM To 6:30:00AM (next day) Then Set Scene 'Outside' On Wait 5 seconds Set Scene 'Outside' On Wait 25 minutes Set Scene 'Outside' Off Wait 5 seconds Set Scene 'Outside' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Of course the basement program is only doing one device because I cant figure out how to add the scene, but assuming I could: I would like to change it to Scene: basement Driveway Alarm Basement If Status 'Main: Basement By Bar' is not Off And Control 'Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Set 'Main: Basement By Bar' On Wait 2 seconds Set 'Main: Basement By Bar' Off Wait 2 seconds Set 'Main: Basement By Bar' On Wait 2 seconds Set 'Main: Basement By Bar' Off Wait 2 seconds Set 'Main: Basement By Bar' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
LeeG Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Select 'Insteon', Scene names are listed after device names in the 'Set' pulldown Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 BTW, when I tried it as is (with the one light), all it did was turn off. It didnt turn on & off. Any ideas why? Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 I guess a scene doesnt show up as a status option but this should be fine because if Basement Control is on or off, so is the rest of the scene. Any ideas why it did not go on & off? Just off? If Status 'Main: Basement Control' is not Off And Control 'Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' Off Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' Off Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
oberkc Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Is "Main: Basement Control" or "Main: Trigger Drive-Opened" part of the scene "Basement 3Way"? If so, then your program execution causes a re-evaluation of your conditions, halting execution at earliest wait statement. Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yes, main basement control is part of the 3 way basement scene. If that light is on, then I am in the basement. It is part of the group going on & off. How would I fix that then? Link to comment
Xathros Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Is "Main: Basement Control" or "Main: Trigger Drive-Opened" part of the scene "Basement 3Way"? If so, then your program execution causes a re-evaluation of your conditions, halting execution at earliest wait statement. Actually, I think only "Main: Basement Control" would be an issue there as the driveway trigger is watching for Control rather than Status and turning on/off a Scene does not generate a control event. Solution: break the program into 2 programs. Move the then section of the above program to a second program and call it from the then of the first. This way when the If in the first program reevaluates, the second program is unaffected. -Xathros Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 I am not quite understanding, could you spoon feed me a little ? Link to comment
Xathros Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 If Status 'Main: Basement Control' is not Off And Control 'Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' Off Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' Off Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') In the above program, the if contains " Status 'Main: Basement Control' is not Off". The first step in the Then says "Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On" . Since this scene contains "Main: Basement Control" and that device now has a Status of On, the If is re-evaluated during the 2 second wait and the program runs false (Else). Nothing after the first On command is executed. Breaking it up as follows: Original Program If Status 'Main: Basement Control' is not Off And Control 'Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Run Program BasementFlashLeaveOn Then Path Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') New Program: BasementFlashLeaveOn If Then Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' Off Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' Off Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Now the first program triggers if the basement is on and someone trips the driveway sensor. It calls the second program that has nothing in the If section. The second program runs the flash and is is not interrupted by the if re-evaluating because it has no If section to re-evaluate and nothing to re-trigger it. Make sense? -Xathros Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Thanks! It works like a charm! I am now able to 'see' the driveway alarm if i am in the basement! Thanks so much guys! Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 So a question. This program is working perfectly but I would like to add another room or two into the mix (master bathroom scene), garage scene. Is there an easy way to make this work with flashing all over in other locations? How would i add another room - as a separate program? Link to comment
Xathros Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 This gets more complicated. You could use one scene with all desired lights as responders but then determining whether to leave the scene on or off will be a problem with multiple rooms involved. I could write a series of programs to store the state of each area to variables then flash a big scene then even more programs to restore each room afterward. Not sure its worth the effort. With the b5 series firmware this will be much easier. Might be best to wait for that. -Xathros Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Is the B5 firmware through UDI or smarthome (the insteon hardware)? In the meantime, can i simply add a device to flash (master bathroom shower)? Start: If Control 'Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Resource 'Driveway Alarm Beep' Send Notification to 'Rich Email' content 'Driveway Alarm Alert' Run Program 'Driveway Alarm Lights2' (If) Wait 10 seconds Run Program 'Driveway Alarm Basement' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Driveway alarm beep, sends a beep, the notification sends me an email Driveway alarm lights 2 is this (turns on outside lights temp): If From 5:30:00PM To 5:45:00AM (next day) Then Set Scene 'Outside' 100% Wait 5 seconds Set Scene 'Outside' 100% Wait 25 minutes Set Scene 'Outside' Off Wait 5 seconds Set Scene 'Outside' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Last it runs driveway alarm basement which checks for room occupancy: If Status 'Main House / Basement / Main: Basement Control' is not Off And Control 'Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Run Program 'Driveway Alarm Basement Flash' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') If the lights in the room are on (someone is there), it runs the next program: Driveway alarm basement flash: If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' 100% Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' Off Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' 100% Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' Off Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Basement 3Way' 100% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 So based on how all this worked, I initially added to the first program, wait 10 seconds run master bath scene That scene had: If Status 'Main House / Master Bath / Main: MBath Toilet Light' is not Off Or Status 'Main House / Master Bath / Main: Mbath Shower' is not Off Or Status 'Main House / Master Bath / Main: MBath Keypad' is not Off And Control 'Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Main: Trigger Drive-Opened' is switched On Then Run Program 'Driveway Alarm Master Bath' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') So if those lights were not off, the driveway alarm goes off, then goto the driveway alarm master bath: If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Set Scene 'Scene: Mbath Off' Fast On Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Mbath Off' Off Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Mbath Off' Fast On Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Mbath Off' Off Wait 3 seconds Set Scene 'Scene: Mbath Off' Fast On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This resulted in an ISY that kept crashing - I suspect i had some sort of poor logic, a reboot allowed me to get back in. I could only telnet into the device to reboot it. Now here I am. Link to comment
Xathros Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 While I have not yet fully analyzed your code above, I highly suspect that these are all running at the same time and causing an insteon flood. This is why I said it should be done with a single large scene with all necessary locations included. The problem currently is tracing the state of each location and restoring that state after the flash happens. With V5 we should be able to store the state of specific devices in variables then restore from the variables after the flash all in one program with once big scene. -Xathros Link to comment
oberkc Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Does scene 'Scene: Mbath Off' include any of these devices : 'Main House / Master Bath / Main: MBath Toilet Light' 'Main House / Master Bath / Main: Mbath Shower' 'Main House / Master Bath / Main: MBath Keypad' If so, your second program may be retriggering your first, which re-fires your second, which retriggers the first, etc..... You may have created another infinite loop here. Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yes, it includes all those devices.I guess thats not good? Link to comment
RichTJ99 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 So the master bath scene turns on & off all the devices listed: 'Main House / Master Bath / Main: MBath Toilet Light' is not OffOr Status 'Main House / Master Bath / Main: Mbath Shower' is not OffOr Status 'Main House / Master Bath / Main: MBath Keypad' is not Off I thought what I was saying was if the toilet or shower, or mbath keypad is not turned off, and Leak - Motion - Trigger - Spr / Main: Trigger Drive-Opened is turned on, then the master bath should run the flashing, leaving the scene on at 100%. Why would that cause a loop? I ask because the basement main control is part of the basement scene but works. Link to comment
Teken Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hello Rich, My reply has nothing to do with your current ask. However, I would like you to consider lending your voice to this *Wish List* thread in hopes of inspiring Smartlabs to make all their products natively beep and flash: http://forum.insteon.com/forum/main-category/new-insteon-device-wish-list/16482-native-beep-flash This would avoid the massive amounts of Insteon traffic on the power line / RF. NOTE: I know a few people are a fan of making their devices beep and flash. But realize doing this on a massive scale reduces reliability of the Insteon network and also impacts the ISY Series Controller as you noted also. Link to comment
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