Replacement for Synchrolinc 2423

[shannong]

So it looks like Insteon stopped making the Synchrolinc 2423A5. I'm using three of them now and have need for another. Anybody have suggestions for a good replacement option for use where the device plugs in? These devices I need to watch aren't on a dedicated circuit.

 

I do have Zwave on my ISY but have very few devices in my network. Where I need this new sensor, I don't think will reliably access the network.

[Teken]

https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/doorbells-alarms-security-systems/security-devices/insteon-synchrolinc-power-synching-controller/p-1444442767818.htm

[GlowingHair]

Orchestrated Home has some in stock.

[shannong]

Orchestrated Home has some in stock.

 

Site says no longer in their catalog.

[shannong]

https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/doorbells-alarms-security-systems/security-devices/insteon-synchrolinc-power-synching-controller/p-1444442767818.htm

 

Their site says not available for shipping to home. Only ship to store, which isn't an option for me. I'm guessing that means they don't have actually have stock and would order from their supplier when I order. I'm also guessing that they can't actually order any. Regardless, not an option for me since there ins't a Menard's here.

[Teken]

Their site says not available for shipping to home. Only ship to store, which isn't an option for me. I'm guessing that means they don't have actually have stock and would order from their supplier when I order. I'm also guessing that they can't actually order any. Regardless, not an option for me since there ins't a Menard's here.

 

Maybe one of the members here could do you a solid and purchase one on your behalf and send it out. I had a few really great folks that did that for me a number of times when there was something that couldn't be shipped to Canada.

 

Some of the best people are on this forum ~ Just Ask!

[Teken]

You may be in luck give this a try: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA05W01B6828&cm_re=insteon-_-9SIA05W01B6828-_-Product  Happy Thanks Giving . . .

[shannong]

You may be in luck give this a try: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA05W01B6828&cm_re=insteon-_-9SIA05W01B6828-_-Product  Happy Thanks Giving . . .

 

I'll try. But notice it says "Sold and Ships from Smarthome". Smarthome site says they don't have it. 

[wswartz]

Appears none of the suggested alternatives provided above are available.  Wondering if anyone has other ideas on how accomplish the same function as the SynchroLinc (2423A5)?  Either another source for the product, or maybe something more DYI, like an Arduino circuit that would work in it's place.

[johnjces]

I have seen some of these pop up on eBay from time to time so you might save a search so eBay can notify you when they come up.

[mwester]

1 hour ago, wswartz said:

Appears none of the suggested alternatives provided above are available.  Wondering if anyone has other ideas on how accomplish the same function as the SynchroLinc (2423A5)?  Either another source for the product, or maybe something more DYI, like an Arduino circuit that would work in it's place.

 

There's another thread here where I've described my solution in detail -- the syncrolinc failed miserably because it's fused, and caused a failure.

In a nutshell, what you want is to search eBay or Amazon for a "current-operated switch" -- these are squarish plastic-encased devices with a hollow center through which you run an insulated conductor (either the hot or the neutral, doesn't usually matter) for the line you wish to monitor.  It has a couple of screw terminals on the top, which are connected to an internal solid-state switch that turns on or off (depending on model) when the current exceeds a preset threshold, usually adjustable via a screw and set of jumpers.

Connect those screw terminals in the correct fashion to an IOLinc, and you have a far better solution for current sensing than the Syncrolinc ever was.

[Brian H]

I know a MAMAC SYSTEMS CT-800 AC current sensor. Will trigger an I/O Linc.

Senses .5 amps to 200 Amps. I know they also have a model with a sensitivity control to set it closer to what you want.

[lilyoyo1]

I've been testing the aeotech smartswitch 6 and it's been working really well in regards to showing usage. 

[larryllix]

I've been testing the aeotech smartswitch 6 and it's been working really well in regards to showing usage. 

This makes me wonder if a ct around one conductor of the load feeding a few wraps of wire around a CAO Tag would detect the magnetic field?

Even a split extension cord with conductors wound around it in opposite directions to make the fields additive instead of subtractive? That also keeps the conductors the same length and tidy. If these these Tags can detect earth magnetic poles........

Hmmmm.... some experimentation is in order there. Wife misses her dryer done doorbell and notifications a lot.

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[wswartz]

Thanks for all the suggestions!  Since I wrote this, I was poking around my box of extra Insteon stuff, and came across a Synchrolinc, still new in the box - SCORE!  But I have number of other current sensing projects around the house so I'm excited to try these alternatives.  Based on what I read, I ordered one of these from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I9IFJOM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'll pair that up with an I/O Linc and see how well it works.  I'm also interested in trying this current switch in conjunction with an Arduino based controller.  Maybe something based off an ESP8266 that could send an API call to the iSY for further action. 

Has anyone considered something like this:

http://henrysbench.capnfatz.com/henrys-bench/arduino-current-measurements/acs712-arduino-ac-current-tutorial/

...using a Hall effect sensor and Arduino?  More invasive than the current switch of course.  Just wondering if there are advantages of going this way.

Thanks,  Bill

[Brian H]

Looked at the  MCS specifications sheet.

It looks like it would trigger an I/O Linc sensor input.