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When will the new firmware be released?

Blackbird

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ronvond Experienced

ronvond

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I'm right there with you Blackbird.  I have a rather extensive assortment of Insteon devices with a few z-wave, being controlled by version 4.7.3.  I would like  to update to enjoy more of the features of my z-wave devices.  I wonder if the 5.x.x. version will ever appear as a standard.  "Beta" scares me, even though it appears many are using it successfully.  If it's that good, let's get it on the market!

Ron

simplextech Advanced

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Since getting my ISY the first thing I did was update to the 5.0.14Beta and start adding Z-Wave devices.  I've had good success with only a few hiccups/issues.  Some of my issues are self induced as I'm testing controller shifts and secondary controller functions which many would not be doing from different "other" controllers.

With that... so far so good.  There are still issues with some multi-sensor devices but so far I haven't noticed any major show stoppers just yet.

Actually in my testing I'm finding that I like Insteon a lot more than I originally thought I would so I've bought a bunch of switches and dimmers to replace some of my z-wave stuff. :)

 

asbril Advanced

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Don't hesitate to move to 5.0.14. You won't regret it. UDI are perfectionists but it works very well. Move to 5,0,14  and enjoy the nodeservers.

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Brian H Advanced

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I am not willing to go to a V5 Beta.

I had a terrible experience with one of the V5 Betas though not the presently available one.

I hosed the SD Card in my ISY994i. The only fix was remove it, reformat it in a PC and start fresh.

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asbril Advanced

asbril

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1 hour ago, Brian H said:

I am not willing to go to a V5 Beta.

I had a terrible experience with one of the V5 Betas though not the presently available one.

I hosed the SD Card in my ISY994i. The only fix was remove it, reformat it in a PC and start fresh.

I am sorry to hear that. By far most users have not have negative experiences. If you make a backup and some free time, you may try again, and you can always go back to previous version.

Bumbershoot Advanced

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At this point, it seems the the 5.x.x series of firmware is essentially feature complete and stable, as it has been over a few iterations now (which in my mind is what a Beta should be).  There are still migration issues that seem to need a bit of work (mostly to do with program conversion), as well as idiosyncrasies with devices that need working through. 

For me (and to be fair, I'm not terribly risk averse -- I always maintain a current backup of my ISY) the multiple benefits of nodeservers made the pain and frustration of migration worthwhile.  They have changed the game for the ISY, and multi-channel Z-Wave devices haven't hurt any, either.  If you decide you don't like pain/cost of the upgrade, restore your old firmware and backup.  The only thing lost is some time/hair follicles.

If you decide to upgrade, you may have some migration issues.  You will, however, have a much expanded universe of devices (Polyglot, NodeLink, Z-Wave multi-channel and some Insteon) available to you, as well as some nice programming features.  I'd be surprised if you see stability issues with the base platform, as not many are reported here.

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Michel Kohanim Wise Elder

Michel Kohanim

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Hello all,

Just for the sake of transparency, during this beta cycle we were overwhelmed with many Z-Wave devices with customized features, devices that did not follow the spec, and association groups that were mismanaged by the manufacturer (thus scenes would not automatically work). In short, for every reported device/issue combination, we had to make modifications for that specific device in the firmware (and thus another firmware release). The list is just too long. So, since 5.0.14 seems to be very stable, we started working on a dynamic configuration feature for some of these issues so that we won't need a firmware update for every permutation of device/feature nonsense. Very much like node servers. This has taken longer than expected but, if it works, then it'll make things much easier for us all. In short, that's where we are right now and I do appreciate your patience.

For those on the fence, if you do not need 5.0.x features, you don't have to migrate. If you do, then you MUST go through the migration process REGARDLESS of official vs. beta.

With kind regards,
Michel 

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larryllix Advanced

larryllix

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Hello all,
Just for the sake of transparency, during this beta cycle we were overwhelmed with many Z-Wave devices with customized features, devices that did not follow the spec, and association groups that were mismanaged by the manufacturer (thus scenes would not automatically work). In short, for every reported device/issue combination, we had to make modifications for that specific device in the firmware (and thus another firmware release). The list is just too long. So, since 5.0.14 seems to be very stable, we started working on a dynamic configuration feature for some of these issues so that we won't need a firmware update for every permutation of device/feature nonsense. Very much like node servers. This has taken longer than expected but, if it works, then it'll make things much easier for us all. In short, that's where we are right now and I do appreciate your patience.
For those on the fence, if you do not need 5.0.x features, you don't have to migrate. If you do, then you MUST go through the migration process REGARDLESS of official vs. beta.
With kind regards,
Michel 
Excellent. I was just going to raise that method.

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Bumbershoot Advanced

Bumbershoot

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5 hours ago, Michel Kohanim said:

So, since 5.0.14 seems to be very stable, we started working on a dynamic configuration feature for some of these issues so that we won't need a firmware update for every permutation of device/feature nonsense.

Terrific, that sounds like a significant feature.  If this were a horse race, I'd bet that we're in for another lap around the Beta track.

5 hours ago, Michel Kohanim said:

For those on the fence, if you do not need 5.0.x features, you don't have to migrate. If you do, then you MUST go through the migration process REGARDLESS of official vs. beta.

@Blackbird, there you go.

It very much sounds to me that UDI considers 5.0.14 to be stable, though not entirely feature complete (if you're not investing in Z-Wave, however, it may well be).  Also, I don't see any promises made here that the migration process will be made entirely automatic or painless (given the endless configurability of the environments that the ISY can control, is it even  reasonable to expect that?)  I certainly didn't find the migration to be onerous.  YMMV.

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dbuss Advanced

dbuss

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15 minutes ago, Blackbird said:

Is there any issues with ELK in 5.0.14?

My Elk works fine with 5.0.14.

 

asbril Advanced

asbril

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2 minutes ago, Blackbird said:

did anyone have problems logging in after?  When I enter my user name and password it says "Failed. Retry Authenticating ISY"

 

Admin, and then create your new username and password (or same as before)

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Blackbird Advanced

Blackbird

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46 minutes ago, Techman said:

 

 

 

Is there a list of all the new features, Im mostly interested in the integration with eecobee

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