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Posted
10 hours ago, simplextech said:

I asked about and would like this.  How do I prevent the scene from turning Off from the door sensor when the door closes?  It's not like a MS II with the on-only option.  

I'm hoping to learn something here, and I apologize if this was answered somewhere else, but I didn't find it.  I'm curious if you tried what was suggested by user @kclenden in this thread and what the results were:

  Thanks for your time.

Posted

The newer door sensors can't be changed to send "On-Only". 

I'm going to toy with doing scene adjustments today and see if I can configure it so that when the sensor does send the Off command the switches will ignore it.  I don't know if the scene adjustment will happen fast enough for this to be usable.

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, simplextech said:

I don't know if the scene adjustment will happen fast enough for this to be usable.

That's what I was hoping to learn.  I don't have any of these devices currently, but I do see an application for them if this actually works.

Again, thanks for your time.

Posted

In early testing I tried to adjust the switches to ignore the commands like this.  This did not work.

SC.Adjust-Deck.Lights - [ID 0029][Parent 001A]

If
        'Living Room / Door Sensor / LR.door.sensor-Opened' is switched On
 
Then
        In 'Scene.Deck.Lights-All' Set 'Deck / Switch / Flood Lights' To ignore
        In 'Scene.Deck.Lights-All' Set 'Deck / Switch / Front Light' To ignore
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

The second test I then changed it to modify the scene at the controller (door sensor).  

SC.Adjust-Deck.Lights - [ID 0029][Parent 001A]

If
        'Living Room / Door Sensor / LR.door.sensor-Opened' is switched On
 
Then
        In 'Living Room / Door Sensor / LR.door.sensor-Opened' Set 'Deck / Switch / Flood Lights' To ignore
        In 'Living Room / Door Sensor / LR.door.sensor-Opened' Set 'Deck / Switch / Front Light' To ignore
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

On the first run this did work.  However the amount of time it takes to perform the adjustment (20-30 seconds) will not work for my use case.  Another item to note is that I duplicated this program but changed the 'ignore' back to a 'default' when the door sensor 'switched off'.  Because of the time it takes for the re-linking to occur the programs collided and things went all wonky.

I'll do some more testing and see if there's some combination that may work.  I think for slow entry doors where they are held open for a period of time like garage doors this may work.  However for a normal entry door I don't normally stand there with the door open long enough for the scene to be re-linked.

Hopefully someone more versed with ISY has some ideas on making this functional.

Posted

Thanks for the investigative work.

One more idea: I realize its wireless, but I wonder if the device to ignore is the sensor itself? Its tricky because updates can only be made during transmissions. But probably worth a try

Paul

Posted
3 minutes ago, paulbates said:

Thanks for the investigative work.

One more idea: I realize its wireless, but I wonder if the device to ignore is the sensor itself? Its tricky because updates can only be made during transmissions. But probably worth a try

Paul

I tried it both ways.  The speed of the re-linking with a battery device stops it dead.

FYI:  I did sent a note to insteon support others should as well asking for an update for "On-Only" capability for open/close sensors.

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