Hey All,

I searched these specific bulbs and didn't see any posts, so I thought I would check to see if anyone is using them and how they are working.  I am primarily and Insteon guy, but with the discontinuation of the bulbs and I have had a few die, I am looking for replacements.  I don't currenty have the ZWave module, I need to order it.  I was looking into using polyglot and a hue hub, but don't won't to do all the extra hardware if I can find bulbs that work natively.

https://inovelli.com/shop/z-wave-smart-bulbs/z-wave-rgbw-smart-bulb/#description

Thanks,

 

2 hours ago, thtguy said:

Hey All,

I searched these specific bulbs and didn't see any posts, so I thought I would check to see if anyone is using them and how they are working.  I am primarily and Insteon guy, but with the discontinuation of the bulbs and I have had a few die, I am looking for replacements.  I don't currenty have the ZWave module, I need to order it.  I was looking into using polyglot and a hue hub, but don't won't to do all the extra hardware if I can find bulbs that work natively.

https://inovelli.com/shop/z-wave-smart-bulbs/z-wave-rgbw-smart-bulb/#description

Thanks,

 

I haven't used these but from past experience, I would go with hue over those especially if you want colors. 

Reading the details of those bulbs, you would want to use them with their switches for best response times but that time would mostly be equal to that of using hue with insteon so it's a wash

Edited January 6, 20205 yr by lilyoyo1

I have no experience with these Inovelli bulbs but I use several Inovelli switches. The company is innovative, pushing Zwave to new frontiers (such as switches that don't need Neutral...). However, in my experience Inovelli devices (switches in my case) need more replacement than for instance GE/Jasco switches. Furthermore, and this is something liyoyo1 keeps pointing out, there is no uniformity in how to include/exclude Zwave devices and Inovelli's method is quite different from other brands.

All this being said, I give Inovelli credit for their innovation and will keep using their products.

41 minutes ago, asbril said:

I have no experience with these Inovelli bulbs but I use several Inovelli switches. The company is innovative, pushing Zwave to new frontiers (such as switches that don't need Neutral...). However, in my experience Inovelli devices (switches in my case) need more replacement than for instance GE/Jasco switches. Furthermore, and this is something liyoyo1 keeps pointing out, there is no uniformity in how to include/exclude Zwave devices and Inovelli's method is quite different from other brands.

All this being said, I give Inovelli credit for their innovation and will keep using their products.

For colors it would be the limitations on what you can choose via parameters and so forth vs hue or lifx where you can get much more colors and saturation

On 1/6/2020 at 10:24 AM, lilyoyo1 said:

hue or lifx where you can get much more colors and saturation

Are these (color) controllable directly within the ISY administrative console with or without nodeserver ? 

1 hour ago, asbril said:

Are these (color) controllable directly within the ISY administrative console with or without nodeserver ? 

You would need to use a nodeserver if you want things directly within the admin console. I prefer to set things in the app as its easier to see and manipulate, then add to the ISY.

23 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said:

You would need to use a nodeserver if you want things directly within the admin console. I prefer to set things in the app as its easier to see and manipulate, then add to the ISY.

If I want to select color depending on day/time (with a program), hue or lifx  ?

1 hour ago, asbril said:

If I want to select color depending on day/time (with a program), hue or lifx  ?

I prefer hue over lifx. I think their setup is more robust though lifx lights themselves are better

On 7/28/2020 at 3:29 PM, asbril said:

If I want to select color depending on day/time (with a program), hue or lifx  ?

I switched from Hue to LiFX simply because they have better color saturation and are brighter (I don't know if that's still the case or not -- I haven't kept up with Hue).  Also, with LiFX you don't need a hub, and my Hue hub had become EOL.  If you're interested in LiFX and running the nodeserver, you should configure it with a device list -- performance on startup is much much improved, and the "groups" functionality unifies the response of multiple bulbs when controlled by your ISY.

On 8/3/2020 at 9:30 AM, Bumbershoot said:

I switched from Hue to LiFX simply because they have better color saturation and are brighter (I don't know if that's still the case or not -- I haven't kept up with Hue).  Also, with LiFX you don't need a hub, and my Hue hub had become EOL.  If you're interested in LiFX and running the nodeserver, you should configure it with a device list -- performance on startup is much much improved, and the "groups" functionality unifies the response of multiple bulbs when controlled by your ISY.

Can I, with a ISY program, set different colors at different times (with Lifx nodeserver) ?

14 hours ago, asbril said:

Can I, with a ISY program, set different colors at different times (with Lifx nodeserver) ?

Of course.  I control them in programs all the time.  You can even use the LiFX bulbs in scenes in your ISY.  Additionally, there's a very capable app that allows you to automate quite a few aspects external to your ISY.

Here's what a simple program using one of them looks like (which changes the bulb color to cyan in 1 second):

ArtLightCyan - [ID 00BC][Parent 000A][Not Enabled]

If
        Program 'ArtLightOnHours' is False
 
Then
        Set 'Devices / dirNodeServers / LiFX / LiFX Controller / LIFX Art Light'  Hue 29696 Saturation 65535 Brightness 20000 Color Temp 3500° K in 1000 ms
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')
 
This program is run when the Elk system detects one of the interior doors is open.

Screenshots below of the light referenced in the program above (provided by the ISY running UI 5.1.0 and the LiFX nodeserver running on a Polisy):

I just received the ilumin bulb (discounted without packaging) and it seems to work great with colors. Tomorrow I am going to include it in a program and will keep you posted on performance.

22 hours ago, asbril said:

I just received the ilumin bulb (discounted without packaging) and it seems to work great with colors. Tomorrow I am going to include it in a program and will keep you posted on performance.

I have created some programs and this is my view of the Ilumin bulb by Inovelli. 

First a big positive is that you do not need a nodeserver.....  There are 4 basic colors (white, red, green and blue).  White is either 'warm' or 'cold'. You can "mix" the colors but less practical and efficient than my Lifx bulbs.

I wanted to use the Ilumin bulb in a program reacting to motion in sensors; a series of ON and OFF in blue acting on sensor 1 and in red acting on sensor 2. However, it takes a couple of seconds to go ON and because OFF comes with fading I was unable to create the  flash effect that I wanted. So instead of the flashing effect (repeated ON/OFF) I just set the bulb ON for 20 seconds when activated by a sensor.

In conclusion, the Lifx bulbs are more colorful (pun intended....), but for the Ilumin you don't need a nodeserver. The Ilumin are cheaper than Lifx.

This is my experience with this bulb after several weeks.  Our condo has two entrances and I have a motion sensor at each entrance. These are the programs that I have with the Inovelli bulb :  If motion is detected at entrance 1, then the  bulb is ON  Red for 15 seconds and it is Blue when motion is detected at the other entrance. The bulb goes On White for 30 minutes as part of the wake up program in the morning.

It all works exactly as designed. However, every time the bulb is set On, I get error messages in the Administrative Console, which then I have to close each time..... pretty annoying as I keep the AC on all day.

This is what I see in the log :

 

Thu 10/15/2020 09:02:57 PM : [ZW-TX-FAILED] enc=Fail uid=157.0 cmd=0x33.03 SWITCH_COLOR



Thu 10/15/2020 09:03:02 PM : [ZW-TX-FAILED] enc=Fail uid=157.0 cmd=0x33.03 SWITCH_COLOR



Thu 10/15/2020 09:03:03 PM : [ZW-TX-FAILED] enc=Fail uid=157.0 cmd=0x33.03 SWITCH_COLOR



Thu 10/15/2020 09:03:04 PM : [ZW-TX-FAILED] enc=Fail uid=157.0 cmd=0x20.01 BASIC



Thu 10/15/2020 09:03:06 PM : [n010_tplkasactl]      DON   0



Thu 10/15/2020 09:03:07 PM : [     ZW157_1]      ERR   1



Thu 10/15/2020 09:03:07 PM : [     ZW157_1]      ERR   0



Thu 10/15/2020 09:03:07 PM : [     ZW157_1]       ST   0 (uom=51 prec=0)



Thu 10/15/2020 09:03:07 PM : [VAR  2    3 ]       0



Thu 10/15/2020 09:03:07 PM : [   ZW157_186]      GV4   0 (uom=107 prec=0)

As mentioned above, the bulb does exactly what I want it to do and I don't understand where these errors come from.

@asbril,

Thank you for reporting. A ticket would be much better to track.

With kind regards,
Michel

1 hour ago, Michel Kohanim said:

@asbril,

Thank you for reporting. A ticket would be much better to track.

With kind regards,
Michel

Hi Michel

I did not want to report as a ticket as the bulb works as desired and you have enough on your plate. But now I will report it as a ticket and I will include a picture of the error message. Nothing urgent.

Hi Seno, thank you. The only way to track things and tie them to bugs/resolutions is tickets. Thank you for reporting.

With kind regards,
Michel

I wonder if others have the same experience with Inovelli ilumin bulbs.  Mine is used in a program whereby a motion sensor triggers the ilumin bulb.

Every time the programs triggers I get an error message that the  Zwave TX has failed, even though the bulb always works exactly as designed.

The same happens with one of my Inovelli Black Series switches. This switch is used without  a neutral, so I don't know if that could be the issue. Again, as with the bulb, the switch always works as designed.

The error pop-up messages are annoying because I have my Administrative Console open most of the day, but because everything works as designed it is not a major issue.

The commonality between the bulb and the switch is of course Inovelli and I am open to get another bulb if someone recommends a particular Zwave multi-color bulb.

I could open a ticket with UDI but I am first trying to see if someone else has seen the same issue.