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smithlevenson

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So I upgraded to v5 a month or two ago and I have been having issues ever since. The issue is mainly with programs that are variable or time based. If you "Run Then" it will usually work as expected, but the automated part seems off. One simple issue is a command to turn all outside lights off at 5 am (and then repeating 2 hrs later for assurance). This has not worked since I upgraded. My thought is to pretty much clean out my programs and start fresh rather than trouble shoot. I have a ton of IR programs that combine IR signals for AV control that I don't want to fool with (took a lot of brute force effort), but they also seem to be working fine. It is really the layered programs that check existing conditions before making changes and time of day stuff that I am thinking I just need to rewrite. Is there any v5 advice or tricks that I should be taking into account before starting? I think I read you can't do time based light levels like you used to (hasn't been working since upgrading anyway). I really liked that.

Regardless, please let me know if I am being rash to start over. I searched and didn't find anyone having similar problems.

 

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23 minutes ago, smithlevenson said:

So I upgraded to v5 a month or two ago and I have been having issues ever since. The issue is mainly with programs that are variable or time based. If you "Run Then" it will usually work as expected, but the automated part seems off. One simple issue is a command to turn all outside lights off at 5 am (and then repeating 2 hrs later for assurance). This has not worked since I upgraded. My thought is to pretty much clean out my programs and start fresh rather than trouble shoot. I have a ton of IR programs that combine IR signals for AV control that I don't want to fool with (took a lot of brute force effort), but they also seem to be working fine. It is really the layered programs that check existing conditions before making changes and time of day stuff that I am thinking I just need to rewrite. Is there any v5 advice or tricks that I should be taking into account before starting? I think I read you can't do time based light levels like you used to (hasn't been working since upgrading anyway). I really liked that.

Regardless, please let me know if I am being rash to start over. I searched and didn't find anyone having similar problems.

 

You may consider going through a few programs and see if there are any *Error 11* present? I saw this on eight programs which refused to save or run properly. Another item to check is to go through each line and insure it references the correct device, resource, etc.

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39 minutes ago, lilyoyo1 said:

If you post your programs that would help get to the bottom of things

Seems pretty simple to not work...

DailyReset - [ID 00C9][Parent 002E]

If
        Time is  5:00:00AM
 
Then
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Fans / Man Cave Fan 1-Motor' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Fans / Man Cave Fan 2-Motor' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Fans / Man Cave Fan 3-Motor' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Fans / Man Cave Fan 4-Motor' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Heater' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Desk Lamp' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Alcove Lighting' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Man Cave Fan 1-Light' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Man Cave Fan 2-Light' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Man Cave Fan 3-Light' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Man Cave Fan 4-Light' Off
        Set 'Outside / Back Porch / Back Porch Fans' Off
        Set 'Outside / Back Porch / Back Porch Recessed' Off
        Set 'Outside / Front Floods' Off
        Set 'Outside / Front Porch / Front Porch Fans' Off
        Set 'Outside / Garage / Garage Lights' Off
        Set 'Outside / Garage / Garage Stairs' Off
        Set 'Outside / Lower Porch / Lower Porch Lights' Off
        Set 'Outside / Rear Floods' Off
        Wait  2 hours
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Fans / Man Cave Fan 1-Motor' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Fans / Man Cave Fan 2-Motor' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Fans / Man Cave Fan 3-Motor' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Fans / Man Cave Fan 4-Motor' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Heater' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Desk Lamp' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Alcove Lighting' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Man Cave Fan 1-Light' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Man Cave Fan 2-Light' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Man Cave Fan 3-Light' Off
        Set 'Downstairs / Man Cave / Man Cave Lights / Man Cave Fan 4-Light' Off
        Set 'Outside / Back Porch / Back Porch Fans' Off
        Set 'Outside / Back Porch / Back Porch Recessed' Off
        Set 'Outside / Front Floods' Off
        Set 'Outside / Front Porch / Front Porch Fans' Off
        Set 'Outside / Garage / Garage Lights' Off
        Set 'Outside / Garage / Garage Stairs' Off
        Set 'Outside / Lower Porch / Lower Porch Lights' Off
        Set 'Outside / Rear Floods' Off

 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

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43 minutes ago, Teken said:

You may consider going through a few programs and see if there are any *Error 11* present? I saw this on eight programs which refused to save or run properly. Another item to check is to go through each line and insure it references the correct device, resource, etc.

I don't see any Error 11 in the summary. As for Device, it seems to be referencing the right device although some devices have been disabled.

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4 hours ago, lilyoyo1 said:

Why not create a scene and place all devices into a single scene. You could then simply say turn the scene itself off. The program should work as is, but I would expect some devices to not be turned off from time to time instead of none working at all.

 

Most are that way, but there are some specific reasons I broke those lights out. But the fact that it isn't working seems pretty strange.

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1 hour ago, DennisC said:

I would suggest, if you haven't tried already, resave the program now that you are on v5. While I don't know why, I had a couple of programs that didn't work correctly until I did this when I upgraded.

I did try that, and it didn't really work. I tried rolling back to v4 yesterday as a last ditch effort and it didn't seem any better (although I made a fair amount of device changes in v5). So I rolled back to v5 late last night so I didn't lose a few "mission critical" things I had recently added and it looks like the programs are actually working again. So weird.

I don't know that I am back 100%, but the daily reset and a few safety lights turned on as programed. I guess all the "have you tried turning it off and back on" stuff is working to finally get v5 up and running. Thanks everyone for the feedback!

 

P.S. Does anyone know how to adjust the level of light that comes on based on what time it is in v5? (My wife's favorite automation)

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9 minutes ago, smithlevenson said:

Does anyone know how to adjust the level of light that comes on based on what time it is in v5? (My wife's favorite automation)

In version 5 firmware, there have been some nice updates to the "Adjust Scene" functionality, if your lights are in a scene.  Below is a program where I do precisely what you describe:

West Hall On-Level - [ID 00B7][Parent 000A]

If
        From    Sunset  +  1 hour 
        To      Sunrise (next day)
 
Then
        In 'Devices / dirWestHall / msWestHallNorth-Sensor' Set 'Devices / dirWestHall / sldWestHallEntrance' To 25% in 0.5 seconds
        
Else
        In 'Devices / dirWestHall / msWestHallNorth-Sensor' Set 'Devices / dirWestHall / sldWestHallEntrance' To 50% in 0.5 seconds
 

 

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On 1/24/2020 at 9:43 AM, Bumbershoot said:

In version 5 firmware, there have been some nice updates to the "Adjust Scene" functionality, if your lights are in a scene.  Below is a program where I do precisely what you describe:


West Hall On-Level - [ID 00B7][Parent 000A]

If
        From    Sunset  +  1 hour 
        To      Sunrise (next day)
 
Then
        In 'Devices / dirWestHall / msWestHallNorth-Sensor' Set 'Devices / dirWestHall / sldWestHallEntrance' To 25% in 0.5 seconds
        
Else
        In 'Devices / dirWestHall / msWestHallNorth-Sensor' Set 'Devices / dirWestHall / sldWestHallEntrance' To 50% in 0.5 seconds
 

 

This worked great, Thanks!

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