TNC Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 After tinkering with my HUB, I performed the factory reset, several times. Then went to Dr. Google to find that performing the reset makes the system useless. I have a HUB (latest version), several switches/dimmers, toggle and decora, several plug in lamp modules, several remotes, a fan module, an LV controller, two 8 button in wall controllers and two thermostats. I have started to replace the system with another and not going back. Is there any value to my Insteon HW or shall I just show it to the dumpster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oberkc Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I would imagine that someone would give you some money for this. How much? Who knows. It is hard to believe that is is completely worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzboray Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Insteon HW is selling very well on ebay, and you can post it here as well. Stuff usually gets sold within hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryllix Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Don't be tossing it yet. Wait until the fat lady sings. Many people will want the devices for years to come as they have PLMs to spare. I have four myself. UDI is inthe process of attempting to aquire rights to manufacture PLMs as well as possibly more than we know of. Don't give up yet. There is likely a way to fix your hub that will be revealed later by some hacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auger66 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 5 hours ago, larryllix said: Don't be tossing it yet. Wait until the fat lady sings. Many people will want the devices for years to come as they have PLMs to spare. I have four myself. UDI is inthe process of attempting to aquire rights to manufacture PLMs as well as possibly more than we know of. Don't give up yet. There is likely a way to fix your hub that will be revealed later by some hacker. Agreed. Sometimes it's just best to sit on your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeautoGuy Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Insteon is dead. Fire sale your devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 9 hours ago, TNC said: After tinkering with my HUB, I performed the factory reset, several times. Then went to Dr. Google to find that performing the reset makes the system useless. I have a HUB (latest version), several switches/dimmers, toggle and decora, several plug in lamp modules, several remotes, a fan module, an LV controller, two 8 button in wall controllers and two thermostats. I have started to replace the system with another and not going back. Is there any value to my Insteon HW or shall I just show it to the dumpster? Insteon shut off their cloud servers. Insteon hardware can still be made to work tho, you just need a controller that will access the hub. Many users have turned to Home Assistant which is a no cost open source project that will run on a variety of hardware. Best for Home Assistant is a pi4, but a 3 will do, or check out the getting started pages for more hardware options. There are some other choices like Homeseer and hubbitat, that require so fee's to get started. My son's house was using an Insteon Hub, he adopted Home Assistant to control his hub, and is very happy with the outcome. 2 hours ago, HomeautoGuy said: Insteon is dead. Fire sale your devices. The company may have ceased operations, the cloud servers may be gone. Insteon is far from dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmb Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 5 hours ago, HomeautoGuy said: Insteon is dead. Fire sale your devices. So you can buy them at discounted prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryllix Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 So you can buy them at discounted prices?Yes! You can buy used PLMs for around to 300 to 500 dollar mark now.Sent from my SM-G781W using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 3 hours ago, MrBill said: Best for Home Assistant is a pi4, but a 3 will do, or check out the getting started pages for more hardware options. There are some other choices like Homeseer and hubbitat, that require so fee's to get started. Seems as though rpi is in short supply. I happen to have an unused zero. Do you think it can handle Home Assistant? My father in law has just a few insteon devices and was using the now useless hub. Trying to get him back online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplextech Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, apostolakisl said: Seems as though rpi is in short supply. I happen to have an unused zero. Do you think it can handle Home Assistant? No... Pi Zero will not work. If you can't source a rPi 4 then go for a Odroid which is supported by easy installation. Another alternative (more work to install Home Assistant) would be a Rock64 board. When in doubt... read the docs: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carealtor Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I run Home Assistant on a Win10 VirtualBox VM. Pretty easy-peezy. No RPI needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolakisl Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, carealtor said: I run Home Assistant on a Win10 VirtualBox VM. Pretty easy-peezy. No RPI needed. Yeah, but my FIL doesn't have a 24/7 computer running either. I suppose I could set it up on a spare PC and let it run on that until such time as rpi comes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techman Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Anyone know if the sunset/sunrise data in the real time clock in the Insteon Hub will still update, or does it require the now non-existent server? I'm checking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 3 hours ago, apostolakisl said: Seems as though rpi is in short supply. I happen to have an unused zero. Do you think it can handle Home Assistant? My father in law has just a few insteon devices and was using the now useless hub. Trying to get him back online. In the on boarding pages they suggest pi4, but say a Pi3 will work. I googled yesterday and saw where some people had install instructions for a zero. I don't know much beyond that. That said I also didnt't pay attention to how old the zero instructions were, and HA has grown leaps and bounds in the last 18 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDB Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I ran Home Assistant on a Pi 3 in the past, was not happy with it. I now run Home Assistant on the old Qotum fanless PC that I used for CQC before, it is using about 10 watts and is much faster than a Pi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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