I would ordinarily use an I/O Linc for a momentary relay; however, I don't have electricity nearby.

I also have searched the forums and have seen some ideas.  With the pace of technology, I just want to know if anything new has come along in the past year or so.

Therefore, I would like to ask if there is a relay I can use with the following conditions:

 

1. Momentary relay just like how the I/O Linc provides- I need 2 relays (both for a momentary on)
2. Not cloud-based
3. Wifi, Z-Wave or other
4. Controllable via Insteon
   1. Node server is fine
   2. A Network Resource is fine if someone would help me configure it!
5. Somehow can be powered by a 12V 7A battery (which is recharged via a solar panel).

 

Thank you,

Ross

Shelly 1 can be powered by 12v DC.  It's wifi, no hub and local control.  (be careful Shelly 1 Plus needs 24V min)  Not sure if there's a node server without looking, but it would be easy to control via network resources.   

Be sure to read the directions, pretty sure they ship configured for 120V and a jumper block needs to be moved for 12v.

They are on sale at Shelly for less than Amazon (even with Prime Day).

7 hours ago, MrBill said:

be careful Shelly 1 Plus needs 24V min

The Plus 1 will operate with 12V also.  There is a node server, but it doesn't work with the Plus series (at least not that I have been able to figure out).

Power supply:	110 - 240 VAC / 24 - 48 VDC / 12 VDC ±10%

@Ross, check out this NS from @sjpbailey.

https://github.com/sjpbailey/Documentation/blob/main/Tuya Relay/README.md

13 hours ago, gzahar said:

The Plus 1 will operate with 12V also.  There is a node server, but it doesn't work with the Plus series (at least not that I have been able to figure out).

Power supply:	110 - 240 VAC / 24 - 48 VDC / 12 VDC ±10%

I see this is correct today.  Yesterday I must have mis-read somewhere.  I actually started on Amazon before heading over to shelly.cloud to use the search filter.  (was happy I did head over to shelly.cloud tho...with all the 50% off items I ended up placing an order 🤣)

@Ross, tuya relay is awesome because it allows you to be far away from eisy. Just in case you want something that's physically attached to eisy, @bpwwer has developed a node server for Noyito relays (4 channels). 

With kind regards,
Michel

 

1 minute ago, Michel Kohanim said:

@Ross, tuya relay is awesome because it allows you to be far away from eisy. Just in case you want something that's physically attached to eisy, @bpwwer has developed a node server for Noyito relays (4 channels).

Isn't Tuya one of those that requires use of their free cloud server?   (a business model that can never work long term)

@MrBill,

Yes but I would not say that their business model can never work long term. They are embedded in billions of devices (much more than Zigbee and Z-Wave and INSTEON combined). And they are used by many well-known organizations. 

With kind regards,
Michel

18 minutes ago, Michel Kohanim said:

Yes but I would not say that their business model can never work long term. They are embedded in billions of devices (much more than Zigbee and Z-Wave and INSTEON combined). And they are used by many well-known organizations.

I'm never a fan of anything that requires a cloud server, but 'free cloud server for life' is more troubling to me.  I don't follow the company, don't know anything about its size or connections.  I do know however that without innovation and development eventually any product will reach stagnation in sales maybe they are large and diverse enough that they will always be able to pay the server bill via new product sales, but I certainly don't want to put my money in that basket.

Edit to add:  Not to mention the internet connection has to be in working order for the product to be utilized.

Edited July 13, 20232 yr by MrBill

@MrBill, @Michel Kohanim, @kzboray
Tuya has a way using Tinytuya module for local non-cloud control.

Unfortunately it is also convoluted and relies on several python programs to run as it stores json files to work. Not automatic in its installation.

I stopped from using that because it is not automatic in its installation.

i may be able to write a free node server that first gathers the local IPv4 network addresses in json. Then a customer would have to copy that json into custom parameters.
Tried in Pg3x after PG3 and it would not poll devices, ver 3.1.32. 
now that all of my equipment is at 3.1.36 i will attempt this again.

For now Tuya is up as a cloud API that you have to setup and add your devices to.

After it is established then the Tuya smartphone app is all that is needed.

If your devices are completely isolated from the internet just on a closed intranet v4 then this makes sense. However if your devices are exposed then anyone can control them anyway! All depends on if your keys have been made public, if not no difference in Tuya compared another API site hosting weather or controlling your water heater.

best to you all.

 

On 7/13/2023 at 10:52 AM, MrBill said:

Isn't Tuya one of those that requires use of their free cloud server?   (a business model that can never work long term)

MagicHome / LEDenet also tries to force that business model also. However, there are still other named apps out there that allow linking to an SSID without any cloud interaction. FluxNet app is one.

None of my WiFi bulbs are cloud dependent.