Zwave/Matter

[jkraus]

so, a bit confused.  I am using the zooz 700 USB dongle on my policy.  If I wanted to upgrade to the Zmatter and longer range Zwave dongle it is USB right?  it seemed there was something about opening up the Polisy?

 

What advanteges will it give me...in other words what are the reviews?

 

Thx

[Guy Lavoie]

The advantage would be the added zigbee functionality, as well as the upcoming Matter support. I think you would also get a better security protocol (S2) on the zwave.

The Zmatter board can be installed inside the Polisy, or added externally as a USB dongle. The eisy only the supports the dongle option.

[jkraus]

OK thanks, and does it come with the antenna?

[Guy Lavoie]

Yes, two antennas. One for zwave and one for zigbee

[Geddy]

10 hours ago, jkraus said:

it seemed there was something about opening up the Polisy?

Originally there was an internal card for the Polisy. I think that is no longer an option. It’s only the ZMatter dongle now. It is USB and includes 2 antenna. It is shown on the UD site and store. No need to open up the Polisy. 

[Guy Lavoie]

11 hours ago, Geddy said:

Originally there was an internal card for the Polisy.... It’s only the ZMatter dongle now.

Though it's actually the same card, so it could probably be taken out of the enclosure and installed inside the Polisy. But I see no advantage in doing that, other than aesthetics. The USB enclosure was sold separately, for someone moving from a Polisy to a eisy. 

Edited December 12 by Guy Lavoie

[Geddy]

5 minutes ago, Guy Lavoie said:

Though it's actually the same nvme card

Yes, but the (larger/original) card needed to be modified some to fit inside the dongle. I think it removed the part that could be screwed into the body of the Polisy, but it's been a minute since I installed the internal in the Polisy. I agree though...not sure I'd want to open up both devices to put it inside the Polisy when the USB enclosure should work well enough. 

[Guy Lavoie]

It's actually a mPCIe card, not nvme (my mistake). There was a thread somewhere explaining that you needed to snap off the tail end of the card to fit it in the enclosure. I agree, just use it as a USB dongle on the Polisy.

[jkraus]

Thanks, yes, my Polisy is enclosed in a cabinet so astetics not so important, just wondering if I should also upgrade to an eisy from my polisy...probably not as not such a heavy user.

Edited December 12 by jkraus

[Guy Lavoie]

32 minutes ago, jkraus said:

 just wondering if I should also upgrade to an eisy from my polisy...probably not as not such a heavy user.

Both run exactly the same version of IoX, so it's not really an "upgrade" in that sense. You would gain a more recent version of the UDI product, with a longer time where it will still be supported. The Polisy could then become a backup just in case... It's your judgement call.

I actually bought a used Polisy just to use it as an experimental platform, and to use for learning to write plugins. It's also a backup unit, though some things would still be a bit of a hassle, such as needing to buy any paid plugins again and transfer (if that's possible) the portal subscription.

[jkraus]

Thanks, maybe I will wait till eisy2  😄

Edited December 12 by jkraus

[xlurkr]

1 hour ago, Guy Lavoie said:

needing to buy any paid plugins again and transfer (if that's possible) the portal subscription.

Both plugins and portal subscription can be transferred.  I've done it.  So rest eisy

-Tom

[jkraus]

How well is the range on Zwave, as now I only seem to get a room or two away?

Edited 10 hours ago by jkraus

[mmb]

1 hour ago, jkraus said:

How well is the range on Zwave, as now I only seem to get a room or two away?

Pairing with z-wave seems better when the devices are close.

My z-wave devices are all over my 2000 sqft home and never had a problem. I have Zmatter dongle and used to have a Zooz 700 dongle.

[jkraus]

did you notice an improvement moving to the Zmatter dongle?