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Hi Michel, I read the ISY-WS-SDK-Manual, however it is written for developers & rightfully assumes that the reader already has programming knowledge. I am far from being a programmer so I did not find there an answer to my specific question what to put in the . As I understand, the ISY can be controlled by sending it REST commands, which can be sent to the ISY simply by typing it into a web browser. That’s all I am trying to do here. Once I know how to do this I believe there are many things that can be done from there, Like integrating it with IFTTT.com’s DropBox channel which can send URL’s, and probably much more. So here is my question: I got the following to work: https://myipaddress/rest/status. That was simple. Now if I want to check the status of a specific device for example an ApplianceLinc named “Dehumidifier†with an Insteon address of 15.4E.0B, can you tell how I would do it? Here is where I get stuck: https://myipaddress/rest/status/ If in order to answer that question you will first need to give me a lesson or two in programming for dummies, then just let me know & I will sadly resign to my fate that this is not for me… Thank you

Sorry for my ignorance. Can someone enlighten me how to use REST commands? Specifically when using . What do I put there, do I use the device name or address? And do I have to put it in those brackets? I got it to work when using the simple command like this: http://ipaddress/rest/nodes. But I have no clue how to work with specific nodes. Again sorry for my ignorance. I searched for a bit more info on REST commands on the wiki & forum and didn't find very much info for someone like me. Thanks Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

You might want to make a separate program for the else part. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Thanks. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

You can change it to whatever port number you want but you will need to add the port number after the ip address if not using the 80/443 default. For example if you change it to port #999 you would do like this to log in: Your_IP_address:999 Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

So basically that means that with a thermostat there is no difference between using "if control" or "if status" is on/off in a program. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Hi az1324, Can this work only locally? I tried to use this on my office computer, and entered in the IP address box the dynamic DNS URL I use to connect remotely & it doesn't work.

Thanks Lee, however I am referring specifically to thermostats where the “If control†does not work the same way it does with all other Insteon devices in the way you described it. See the posts above. Thanks.

I get it. So is there really any difference between using status & control when the condition is "if on/off"? Thanks. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Hi Chris, When someone changes the setpoint manually at the thermostat the ISY obviously detects it & shows the change immediately, so shouldn't it be possible for the ISY to use it in a program somehow? Thanks again.

Hi Michel, That's the way it is with all Insteon devices. However, with the thermostats, when selecting “if control†I only get the “is/is not†“on/off†choices, (Which is not something that can be directly done locally. The only thing one can do locally is changing the setpoint or change the mode, none of which is available when using “if controlâ€), I don't get a choice of any changes in the setpoint (Which is what someone can change locally at the device, no one can actually force cool on at the device), and when the a/c goes on because the temperature in the room is higher than the setpoint the program is triggered. The main thermostat node is not even in the drop down list when using “if controlâ€. As a test I tried again the following program: If Control '14.67.0A - Cool Control' is switched On Then Send Notification to 'isy99@' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I then lowered the setpoint using the admin console so that the a/c should go on, and sure enough I got a notification. Am I missing something?

Hi, It seems that unlike all other insteon devices, when using the "if control" condition with the Venstar thermostats it will be triggered even when the change is not done manually at the thermostat. Is there a way to make a program to get a notification whenever someone makes a change manually at the thermostat? Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

The Venstar T1800 & T1900 both support humidity & dehumidifier control and are Insteon controllable so they would be natively supported by the ISY. For the T1800 you would need to buy an additional humidity module for about $30 while the T1900 has the humidity module built in.

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Thanks Michel & all, I will setup a static IP from within the ISY. I do use manual port forwarding not the UPnP. On a side issue, does changing the default port numbers from 80/443 to something else make it more secure against outside attackers since they won't find anything at the normal web server http/https ports?

Hi Michel, I had a power outage that lasted for about a minute on Saturday, and after that the ISY was unreachable. Both the Mem & Err LED’s were blinking & the error log was full of -100 error messages which means that it was unable to get an IP address from the router thru DHCP. (BTW the error code -100 is not listed in the Wiki). Normally my ISY is assigned a static IP from the router. After rebooting the ISY it went back to normal. According to the post below in another thread this should not have happened as of release 2.8.16 and above. http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?p=62802#p62802 Any thoughts on why this happened? And should I rather assign a static IP address in the ISY outside of the router’s DHCP range to avoid this problem In the future? Or is there something else wrong here & this should NEVER occur with 2.8.16 and above? By the way Michel, this is the first time I had any issues since you logged into my ISY & fixed my problems. Thanks.

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Hi all, I ran the following test program last night: If On Sun From Sunset + 3 hours and 32 minutes To 12:05:00AM (next day) Then Send Notification to 'isy99@' content 'From Sunset + Hours Test' Else Send Notification to 'Exchange 2010' content 'Next Day Test' Three hours and 32 minutes after Sunday’s sunset was 12:02 AM Monday morning at my location. At 12:02 Monday morning I got the first email. Three minutes later at 12:05 Monday morning I got the 2nd email. So in conclusion we can confirm the following: 1. Using X amount of hours after sunset will execute correctly even if it happens to go into the next day. 2. The “Next Day†in a program always refers to the day checked off in the program regardless of when the program will actually start running. Thanks Xathros, Lee, and Apostolakisl.

Lee, Your question in your edit is well described exactly what my question is.

Lee, It is an actual case that I will be using in various scenarios. Remember, in the winter months this would be at about 8:30 PM.

Here is another question: When multiple days are selected, and I then pick ‘Next Day’ in the ‘To’ section, is it the next day of the last day in the selection? For example if I select Sunday & Monday, would the program end on Tuesday?

Hi all, If I make a program that looks like this: If On Fri From Sunset + 4 hours and 1 minute To 11:15:00AM (next day) Then Set '14.67.0A - Main' Mode Cool Set '14.67.0A - Main' 70° (Cool Setpoint) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Now here is my question: Currently in summer time 4 hours after sunset happens to be about 12:30 AM which is already Saturday. So when I choose ‘next day’ in the ‘To’ section, will it be Saturday 11:15 AM or Sunday 11:15 AM? Thanks.

Xathros, I do not have Kaspersky & Avast. Michel logged into my system & worked hard to resolve the issues. The problems were a combination of a bad SD card, a corrupted 3.2.6 firmware file download that I used to upgrade, and some firewall issues. Everything seems to be working fine now. I can login to the ISY locally & remotely, I get the devices’ status on the main tab, the devices are being turned on/off correctly, and I am getting the proper email notifications. As far as the lockups are concerned, which was my original problem, it’s been about an hour since Michel had finished & it’s still up & running. It used to lockup after a few minutes. Michel wants me to do a Restore PLM locally when I get home & monitor further, and then see if I can get the Conductor app to work again as well. Thank a million again Michel! Thank you Xathros and everyone!

Xathros, I did the restore PLM. Am I supposed to get a confirmation or something when it’s done? I didn’t get any. All issues are still there except one change: Now when I turned a device on/off thru the console it did send me an email notification. The associated programs though still did not update its true/false status in the program summary tab. Michel, I submitted a ticket, thanks. I disabled the firewall on my computer before I started the process yesterday & it’s still disabled, so it’s not that. Thank you.

Hi everyone, Ok here is an update after working on this for another day… I will try to describe everything that I encountered maybe it will give you a clue of what could be wrong here. I started last evening trying just to do a reformat of the old SD Card. First I made a backup. Then I followed the Wiki instructions & did a telnet to the ISY and issued the FS command and hit Y. According to the Wiki I am supposed to see a “Goodbye prompt†when it’s done, however in all the formattings I was doing in the last day I never got any prompt. It was just the “Y†that I entered there, and after a while when I saw nothing happening I hit enter. At first nothing happened, then after hitting enter a couple of times I got a message saying connection to host lost. After that I logged in to the admin console thru Universal’s website. Interestingly the firmware stayed the latest version 3.2.6., and even more interestingly the IP address stayed the same static IP address that I assigned earlier thru the ISY outside of the router’s DHCP range in accordance with Xathros’ instructions. I then restored the backup that I had just made. All my Insteon devices showed up, but I had a couple of issues: 1. The SMTP settings were lost & the default box was checked (Afterwards I did a restore again, and this time it restored the Gmail SMTP settings that I had before). 2. The user name & password were not restored (Maybe that’s normal) 3. The main window showed all the devices but not their status even when doing a query. 4. I could not for the life of me login into the ISY. I tried everything, http, https, from the local network & thru the internet, changed port numbers to the default & back, changed from static IP to IP being assigned by router & back, nothing worked. The only way I could login was logging in to the admin console thru the Universal website. Today I went out & bought an 8 GB SD card. I did the format. When I did the restore from yesterday’s backup I first got a message “UPGRADE FAILED: FAILED UPLOADING FILE (REPORTED WRITTEN SIZE IS INVALID)â€. I tried to restore again & this time it finished without an error message. However I got the same exact problems as yesterday with everything. So this time however I tried a couple of more things. After restoring the backup that I made yesterday & getting the same problems as yesterday, I tried to restore the backup that I made right after upgrading the firmware last week Wednesday (Yes it’s a week already that it’s down!). I got the same popup “UPGRADE FAILED: FAILED UPLOADING FILE (REPORTED WRITTEN SIZE IS INVALID)â€. I then tried to restore the backup that I made BEFORE I did the firmware upgrade & when all problems began, this time I got a different error message: “Upgrade Failed: Java.Lang.NullPointerExceptionâ€. I retried a few times and got the same message again. So to do a quick recap, after spending countless hours in the past week here is where I am now: 1. The main window shows all the devices but not their status, even when doing a query. 2. I cannot login into the ISY in any way except into the admin console thru the Universal website. I did a few more tests now: I turned one device (The IO Linc relay that I added after the firmware upgrade) that was next to me on & off thru the main window in the admin console & it did actually turn on & off, so it seems to work to some extent, but the console did not show the status whatsoever in the main window, it did not send me email notifications as it’s supposed to, and checking in the program summary tab the programs did not turn true/false the way it should. Please help! Thank you all very much.