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Jmed999, Unfortunately there is no other way. See here my post about this: http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=9420 Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Thanks for all the suggestions. However there are several types of Insteon devices which revert to an off state after a power failure. I have made ISY programs for those devices to make them go back to the state they were before the power outage. In order for this to work the ISY has to know that a power failure occured. So I rather don't have the ISY on a UPS, and just design all my programs in such a way with the possibilty of a power failure in mind. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Since in my area it's quite common to have milliseconds long power outages, I have always in mind that possibility when making a program and I try to address it. In this case, what would you suggest to make it power failure proof? I thought to have the same "wait for 24 hours then off" in the else clause & then make the program run at startup. What do you say? Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Smarthome has since come out with a product to controll fans, its called Fanlinc. You just have to make sure it's compatible with your model fan. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Hi Iceman68, I believe you can accomplish what you want with the following one program: If From Sunset - 1 hour and 20 minutes To 5:00:00PM (same day) And Time is 5:00:00PM Then Set 'Counter Lights' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Good luck!

Hi Iceman68, I believe you can accomplish what you want with the following one program: If From Sunset - 1 hour and 20 minutes To 5:00:00PM (same day) And Time is 5:00:00PM Then Set 'Counter Lights' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Good luck!

That’s interesting news to me as well. I never knew of this difference between scene vs. direct commands, and that when turning devices on/off thru a scene it’s not acknowledged & not retried & the ISY just assumes that the devices are following orders... In that case, in the old program vs. scene debate, using a program to control devices instead of using a scene has a very big advantage.

I would use ApplianceLincs rather than LampLincs. Lamplincs are dimmable devices which could very possibly damage your digital frame if dimmed accidentally. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

From what I see there is nothing to stop the "Hot water loop" program from running continuously once its activated. Even when the main program turns false thus setting the hot water off, the hot water loop program continues to run & eventually turns the hot water back on. You should add the following to the main program's else path: Run program "Hot water loop" (else path). Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Check this out from Smarthome it does what you are looking for: http://www.smarthome.com/73210/I-O-Linc-INSTEON-Telephone-Alert-Kit/p.aspx Check out ifttt.com, I am almost sure that they have such a service. Just keep in mind that ifttt.com polls for status updates only once every 15 minutes if I remember correctly. Depending on what you want to use it for it might not be fast enough for your purpose. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

I see the 2441TH in the New Device pull down menu but not the 2441ZTH. Do you just use the 2441TH device when adding the 2441ZTH? Anyone got the answer to this? Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Thanks

I understand. Thanks Michel for everything.

Thanks. My post was based on ideas I got from others on this forum, so the credit is theirs.

I always had the schedules done with ISY programs rather than with the tstat itself for this reason. While it's great to have this new feature so that the time on the tstat is correct, I think I am going to keep doing it the ISY way.

Hi, Is there a difference in using a condition between "Status T1800 - Cool Control is On" and "Status T1800 - Main is Calling for Cool"?

Thanks for quick reply. Any estimated ETA? Do you think in the range of days, weeks, or months?

Hi, Now that the Insteon wireless thermostat #2441ZTH is supported in the current beta, it opens up a lot of possibilities. I for one am planning to get one in every room in the house & design programs to have them control my Venstar thermostats which are actually hooked up to & controlling my HVAC system. There have been some discussions on this forum of some people who used some extra Venstars hooked up to a 24 VAC transformer to do this. But they are much more expensive compared to the 2441ZTH which is only $79.99, it includes a humidity sensor, and can run on batteries. One example that would be very common is if I want to set the A/C should run according to the temperature in the master bedroom & not according to the temp in the hallway where the Venstar is located. As some helpful people discussed on this forum, the way to do this would be as follows: Lets say you want the cool setpoint to be 70 degrees (according to the MBR temp), you would do: If MBR temp => 70 Turn Venstar cool on with a very low setpoint. Else Turn Venstar cool off (Or set cool setpoint at a very high number). The above is a simple example. However, when you want to accomplish something more than just one setpoint setting of 70, you would need to start to use variables. So here is where the ISY can use a big improvement. If it would have been currently possible to make the following 3 programs, life would have been great: 1) Variable 1=Tstat1 temp 2) Variable 2=Tstat1 cool setpoint 3) Variable 3=Tstat1 heat setpoint If the above can be done in the ISY the possibilities would be endless & it would be a cakewalk to do anything with it. Unfortunately this is not possible today. So to use variables now, you would have to make a separate program to set a variable for each possible degree in your normal range. So for example my normal range would be between 67 to 82 degrees. This means that before I even make a single program to accomplish what I want to do, I would need to first have 45 (!) programs for each thermostat (!) to set the variables for the actual temp, cool setpoint, and heat setpoint. So now that the #2441ZTH Is supported, are there any plans to implement this in the near future? Thank you very much

Great! Thanks.

Yes to which? 2441TH (Insteon Thermostat for $149) or 2441ZTH (Insteon Wireless Thermostat for $79)? Thanks

Is that the Insteon Thermostat Part # 2441TH, or the Insteon "Wireless" Thermostat Part # 2441ZTH that had just been released? Thanks.

What's the Templinc mentioned in the "Things to test"? Is that the Insteon thermostat? Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

I might also add that if the program has run at startup enabled it will also run whenever the ISY is rebooted, whether manually or due to a power failure. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Hi, Just my 2 cents: You should set program 2 to run at startup. Otherwise, if you ever have a power outage or you reboot the ISY for whatever reason program 1 will remain disabled & program 2 will never run on it's own, thus you won't get any more emails. Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2

Michel, Have you checked out the 2441ZTH yet? Does it have the same issues as the 2441TH as reported here http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=8745&hilit=2441TH or is it going to work as expected? Thanks.