Teken

It's always a pleasure to see and help out a long time forum member and customer. Hope this message finds you and yours doing well! ? Can't believe its been a decade since you and I walked the Insteon path! ?

There wasn't anything to argue about or debate as everything you stated on the forums was - True! ? Like you I come on the forums to read the latest tech, learn new things, and help out where and when I can. I don't come here to argue or to force my views on others . . . The only reason I came back this week was (again) you and others provided critical insight as to the current affairs relating to Insteon. I won't lie part of me wanted this to be a chip shortage and just slow aszz management. But you know what they say about hope. *Hope don't float* ?

I know just wanted to throw you a jab and say hi. ?

Just had to poke the guy in the eye eh?!? ?

I think we need to step back for a moment and ask a relevant question. As of this writing there is / are not / has not / been any Nokia HUB released into the wild. If its true the Nokia line has been shelved this doesn't help you or anyone else. The next problem is the current Nokia HUB & Smart application does not support the inclusion of the Insteon hardware. This was stated to be TBA at some point but given the current state of affairs probably not.

The Nokia HUB is like any of the Insteon HUB's which are dual band. So it does send Insteon signals via Power Line & RF.

The Nokia HUB is a PLM . . .

No . . .

Given there are only five capacitors on that board and all are cheap sh^t. Replace them all because you're only buying & wasting time otherwise.

A number of years ago there was an Australian company modifying older Hubs to be used as a PLM to tie into the ISY Series Controller. There are at least two archived threads in this forum and others that talk about this solution. Having said this, I've not seen any new threads where someone has tried the same on the last generation Hub. The archive thread has a couple of photos of the internal wiring modifications.

This is true the last generation of their HUB incorporated a stronger RF and better antenna's. Regardless, given their isn't any cloud support the Hub is a brick in terms of schedules, timers, adding / removing devices. Any links created prior to the shut down of the cloud service will continue to operate as it does for any stand alone system. As others have stated and I will affirm this is why Cloud First services really can't be used in a serious way as it relates to a persons home. You literally have a ticking time bomb ready to go off anytime . . .

All existing Insteon hardware is supported. I would suggest you reach out to UDI via support ticket and they will give you a ETA.

Both the the ISY / Polisy are Local First controllers in their default state. They have the ability to connect to other Cloud First services if required via their Node Servers. Your old Insteon Hub is a brick and not involved anywhere if you go this route. Both ISY-994 Series Controllers & Polisy do not require a 24.7.365 computer to be run as they are a self contained computer system.

This information was provided by @lilyoyo1

This is exactly why I blew a stack the other day . . . You have this incompetent aszz hole who believes using another well known name brand like Nokia to start up a new hardware line. Because he feels it will give them a new start in the market and life without the Insteon bed stains. Yet, for more than two years this company has refused to publish anything (anywhere) to inform the customer base of their intent and things to come. As a customer I don't like to hear bad news but if you're honest and forthright about the why's it at least gives the customer the opportunity to make plans. But what do we have here but a company run and operated by a imbecile. For more than three years hardware going out of stock well in advance of any pandemic. In the thick of the pandemic the public used the excuse *Oh this is due to a chip shortage*. Did this company ever post any official news or updates to affirm the same - no! As the pandemic continue to unfold what did we see - fire sale. There were two so called sales from this sh^t stained company over the course of 18 months. To prove and illustrate the incompetence of this company they literally started selling hardware produced from 2013!?!? It's 2020, 2021, 2022 you know that thing called stock management - FIFO! Yet, there were things that didn't exist for at least six years like the 240 NO / NC controller??? Then when you thought it couldn't get any dumber they literally had box's of NOS of motions sensors, open close, and leak sensors with retail boxes not used since 2016 on sale during their so called sales event???? As it relates to the Nokia branded hardware if this company literally charged everyone's CC and doesn't automatically refund the same. I hope there's a class action law suite to sue everyone involved until they are broke & homeless! The level of arrogance, incompetence, and distain for their customer base is mind bending!

Just to be clear are you saying even the Nokia hardware has been scrapped by these incompetent aszz holes?!?

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No hidden agenda just a stupid imbecile, with no common sense, and too stupid to live. This last guy is the epitome of ten kinds of stupid - period! As soon as I read this half wit directed his teams to focus on software I knew the entire Insteon brand and company would fold. To this very day everyone who took part in this whole disaster needs to be punched in the throat. Insteon could have been the Apple, Microsoft, name who ever . . . But, no just a sh^t stain recorded in history run into the dirt by two of the most incompetents fools to ever grace this planet.

And what did I say more than ten years ago about the first idiot that ran the show (Joe Dadda) ??? And only last year about the new owner being a complete imbecile! You literally had two stupid sh^t's that killed a great technology because they are too stupid to live . . . Hope a meteor drops on them both and wipes them out . . . ?

As always I thank everyone for the quick reply! ?

It's been quite a while since I touched the Polisy due to competing project demands. I had a few moments to review some of the ongoing threads as it relates to the current state and best practices to get ISY to Polisy. The Polisy is currently running 5.3.0 and the hardware is running version 2.2.13 / front end 2.2.9-5 which is connected to my Z-Wave test box running 5.0.16C as I have not upgraded that controller with the latest 5.XX Z-Wave card. Regardless, once the Polisy showed up on the finder the system indicates there is a crazy block of bad memory?!? Also to offer some more clarity Michel as always was gracious enough to help me a few months back in replacing a bad eMMc card on the Polisy. I'm not sure if this new eMMC card could really have so many bad sectors given the controller has been fired up only a handful of times and shut down properly via the dashboard. If others can check their systems to see if the same / not is present it would be very helpful. As if its a simple display bug I'll just carry on until such time as this is fixed. If on the other hand this is not a display bug but a sign of a pending drive failure I rather have this addressed before the big push to migrate!

Yes, the system indicates dhcp client is running as pid 816.

Yes, still no joy but as stated doesn't seem to impact the controller in any way.

Thanks for that screen capture of yours. I'm not sure why the DNS & GW are not populated but are when hardwired. It doesn't seem to impact the controller at all as I see data being retrieved and sent to the various cloud portal services?!? I don't know . . . ?