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Can't say as it's not very common in Canada. But in the USA and other warmer climates water is the preferred choice. I use Halon because it was available, cheap, and works. The biggest down side is the obvious human death that can happen if the room is sealed. Comes down to common sense deployment and following best practices. ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.

Either is mine but for those who have common water suppression systems need to ensure code is followed. For those of us who use halon suppression for component protection along with chemical agents for wide and immediate fire abatement it's a good compromise for using water . Can't use water in the GWN when it's -40'C! ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.

Also keep in mind some of the units fail closed upon power loss. That should never be the case for the main water line. Also note these devices may never be placed before a fire suppression system which supplies water. Both of these points are rarely if ever considered by those who install them. [emoji53] Other factors to consider is the type of water you have. This is why having a bypass service loop is paramount as this allows you to remove the unit for buildup inspection and cleaning. Those considering using this for hot water must always perform a yearly inspection because calcium buildup is always present in hot water applications. ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.

Are you using one of the Alpha 5.XX firmware releases and have you confirmed the correct UI and firmware? Looks to be your list is called *Your Devices* opposed to the Insteon / X10.

I've seen this in three cases one is the LED bulb, two being the hardware needed a hard reset, third the hardware was failing / defective. ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.

Good man. [emoji847] Also it should be noted my comments were provided for insight and guidance for all and not directed toward any single person. [emoji41] For those of us who have come from an industrial setting lots of these checks and balances are just basic SOP. No magic here it's just experience with lots of common sense. Other things to consider is how these valves fail when interrupted or see a voltage swing. Some will fail open while others will return to their last known state. Anyone considering doing this sort of thing really need to test, validate, and follow up to ensure the correct response is seen. For me I can totally understand the whole steamy shower issue because it costs money, introduces fire safety, and is the leading cause to mold. I simply gave the water bill to the little monster! [emoji13] ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.

Don't know how anyone is going to reliably confirm this valve is open / closed? [emoji848] Hope? [emoji849] Also, one thing you need to check is how much drift the valve will see over the course of XXX full cycles. Even though the OP is just turning the valve open / closed for his use case. Those intending to use this device or similar on the main water line really need to confirm how this device behaves over extended use. Lastly, it should be noted confirmation of the actual open / close state when the manual dial is used should not count on the red hash mark as the final indicator position. [emoji107] Because if you look after 100 plus cycles the red hash mark won't align to a real world open / closed position. [emoji53] This is why those using this type of device must consider and invest the money for a proper manual bypass with the appropriate down stream shut offs. ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.

I truly believe some of you just need to unplug from this conversation. [emoji855] Let's all keep this real it doesn't matter what anyone thinks it's up to UDI to move forward with this idea. Assuming if it's even doable in terms of ROI. Nothing saddens me more than to see long term members argue on points that are valid on both sides. ☹️️ Take the good, bad, ugly, and throw away the rest. [emoji5] Good grief - Some of you just like to argue and get others into a tizzy! [emoji12] That's my job! [emoji851][emoji38][emoji106] ========================= The highest calling in life is to serve ones country faithfully - Teach others what can be. Do what is right and not what is popular.

I believe some people are starting to follow the little bread crumbs now . . .

You already offered a piece of hardware that meets the question posed. Now, back to my question(s) as to is there more than one door, how is the door secured once its closed, is this door the outside door. None of this is complicated to answer but does impact the next steps . . . To wit what is going to control this magnetic door opener? Does he have an ELK system tied to the ISY Series Controller? If yes this makes the secondary questions not so critical. If on the other hand he doesn't have an ELK system integrated with the ISY Series Controller what is he going to use to confirm and make the door close if their is a failure? Again, every question leads to another logical one which needs to be considered and answered. Perhaps being involved in force protection and security for more than 25 years and seeing the best and worst implementations gives me pause . . .

I'm sorry your missing the whole point and the obvious reasons for asking the questions in the first place. I don't see how asking pertinent questions would annoy a person considering that's the whole point of being on a forum. Which is to pose questions and receive feedback which ultimately offers exchanges of pros / cons and ideas. With respect to how someone is going to *Run his equipment* that is based on industry best practices, local codes, and fire marshal requirements. Some may see only so far as their nose - I prefer to see the entire road . . .

The OP has already stated this door is normally open during the day. When they leave this door is locked and is also part of the security zone. The alarm will not arm the system unless the door is closed and my ONLY question was what locks the door and also offered a suggestion / question. Even though the OP did not ask this specific question it begs to be asked . . . Its relevant because normally there is only one door and hence its considered a perimeter door and must be secured. I can't be any clearer on that point regardless of if that was the primary question. Everyday I read people asking random questions and everyday the question they are asking isn't the true intent. I therefor take the time to ask more probing questions in hopes of offering a true solution. Clear as mud? More crumbs?

Now are you following the bread crumb?

Then why bother even closing the door?

Why would you not care where the door is? If its a single door that leads into the home that is considered a perimeter door and hence why its being monitored. If there are two doors than that removes the primary concern about security.

Garage -> Mudroom Door -> Interior Door to home. <-- Correct?

Your going to have to offer a little more as I am not quite clear as to why the door is ajar in the first place? Also what locks the door once the door is closed? Is the inside handle and door knob / dead bolt preset?

What's the over all purpose of this set up?

Could very well be a bad SD memory card not very common but it does happen.

With respect to any temperature probe being used a person must ensure the proper diameter wire, run length, and topology is used for 1 wire networks. If you are using something other than 1 wire - wire length, diameter, and stable voltage is key.

LOL . . .

Bungalos saves the knee's too when you get older. In most places a basement isn't considered part of the square footage and since I was thinking long term. Think rape tax's from the Nazi's . . . I made sure the basement was the exact same square feet as the main floor. So this allows me in the future to have all the same rooms and bathrooms in the basement for less!

That's perfect - now you really need to go purchase a lotto ticket! I can literally count on two fingers when I have seen this ever happening.

The tightest bend you can achieve with common PEX is like this sleeve.

LMAO . . . There isn't enough pop corn in my bowl today to enjoy the rants.