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@bpwwer I think I understnad the issue and goals of moving the configurations, but what happens to the nodes? For example when I move the NS Ecobee, from PG2 to PG3, will all of the nodes will become new nodes in the isy, meaning, that I will have to re-map any nodes I use in programs or scenes? If the ISY can have both reporting at the same time, then I suppose I can do Find/Replace in programs? Thanks

@Jimbo@Michel Kohanim Thanks Jim! As usual, I am sure you will do an awesome job with this! Voice is a critical part of my elk /isy /home set up. Am wondering two things: -should I wait until PG3 is completed before I convert from isy to isy on Polisy to avoid two conversions of the ELK systems --> ISY (with voice) to PG2 Isy on Polisy (w.o voice) to PG3 on Polisy (with voice) and -secondly, with over 160 programs that utilize an Elk based input or output, why is going to be the easiest way to "map" the two systems (current to new) together to minimize the work. ie what happens when I convert.. do all my current programs just show the ////error line and there wont be any reference point as to what needs to be replacded, Will the Programs/FIND/Replace command work, etc. Just trying to get my head around this upcoming HUGE task. thanks Doug

500 board but moving to the zoos 700 on polisy someday Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Am not that familiar with zwave but do have about 10 devices (locks, thermostats, outlets and plug-warts) in my ISY, but with Insteon's potential demise, I have been looking at some replacement / new z-wave devices. If my zwave mesh operates at the lowest common denominator in terms of speed, is there a way to tell what speed / series, each device is via the ISY? Or another way? Both out of curiosity but also to potential replace older. slower ones if they are the bottleneck. thanks.

@geddy Software update.. updated last night. .here is a screen shot. Not beta

@maxnorth Hmm.. ok. I will have to think through that a bit. Currently I use Voice-in-a-Can on my apple watch to access Alexa for things like shut the garage door etc. using voice. So from an initiation standpoint I have a way albeit its not completely handsfree when I am out and about. Is hands free only when near an Alexa-dot type of device. ( I have to touch the Voice in a can complication on my watch to initiate) Primarily I am looking for ways to get data verbally out of my ISY, from a verbal command in via Alexa. I need to go find other posts on this as well. ie: ask Alexa what is the wind doing and have it respond with my ISY data. Thanks for the response!

This Elk issue is pretty huge for me and until I understand the NS and what it can and cant do and the work involved to convert from my current Elk / Isy integration to a ISY / Polisy/ ELK NS set up, my migration to isy/polisy is on hold indefinitely. Sad. ~160 programs with Elk address (Motion sensors, outputs for sprinklers, open/close modules etc) ~ Voice announcements through the Page out to a whole house sound system to alert of things like Driveway motion, garage doors open /shut, external heater on / off etc. @Michel Kohanim Currently a show-stopper. Hope the NS and migration can both become better. And yes, it is worth $ on PG3 to me, if it were to migrate seamlessly and continue to support Elk integration as the module did.

@maxnorth Hi, I just saw this post and am wondering how you do step 4? I am interested in taking this in. a few directions, similar to yours, but also, to be able to ask Alexa "what is the wind", which I have a local station that the isy, knows the answer and I would like to eventually have Alexa answer it. Thanks

I see 15.2.2 is now available. This isn't listed as a fix, but here is hoping. Anyone have luck with it yet? I have downloaded it, but unfortunately, quarantining with Covid, so cant test. lol

Wow.. each time I think I am ready to invest in the migration, something new pops up.. This alone will cause several hours of work of re-writting programs. Have ~160 program with Elk in them, some with lots and lots of lines / references. It sure would be nice for someone to truly and simply explain all the steps, processes and things that need to be done. yes ,I understand everyone is still learning themselves, but I hope we dont loose sight that there are a lot of people that would like to do this, but just need a bit more guidance. Just a few that I keep hearing that I haven't seen enough explicit directions on, but surely could figure out after trial and error include: -Elk -Nodserver migration -Portal migration: how, what happens to Alexa links, etc -Z-wave migration; what to expect? complete rebuild into scenes, programs etc? Others? This posting helped just to get ISY on the Polisy... w/o this I would not have had a clue where to start. Thanks.. (just venting as I am anxious to convert but cant afford to have my house go down for days on end while I try to recreate a very complex system because I didnt understand all the land mines.)

Can you expand on this? I have the elk and its an integral part of my programs etc.

Thanks @tmorse305 I had not seen that post

My understanding: PGC --> Cloud based polisy, a few Nodeservers here that dont / cant exist on local Polisy. Less NS than on PG2. I use the Ring NS from here. PG2 --> Local polisy through the blue Polisy unit. Store offers more NS than PGC, but a few, like the ring, aren't able to be local. PG3 --> ??? Purpose? will PGC and PG2 be migrated to PG3? Will I need to install it on my Blue Polisy? Must have missed something here. Any further explanations, plans would be helpful. Thanks!

UPDATE: Never mind.. walked away after this post and it dawned on me what is happening. When the Node server updates the day (And 'ISY Time Data' Date < 10) in the above program, at midnight, it re-evalutes the if and therefore it becomes true for 5 minutes...until 12:05 am.. will simply change that to 11:55pm or create an Integer value for it. LOL...

Have a simple program to turn on outside and multiple inside xmas light decorations. Often if I go to bed before the program turns them off, I will have ask Alexa to turn them off, which works fine. But then at midnight, they come back on. I have checked using find/replace in programs for any other links to these devices and there are none. I have two other programs, that are related, but one only runs at startup to re-initialize the variable, the second changes the variable w/o any If or calls for it. Any ideas? Xmas lights Program - [ID 00D3][Parent 0013] If $Xmas_Lights is 1 And ( From Sunset - 1 hour To 12:05:00AM (next day) Or From 6:30:00AM To Sunrise + 1 hour (same day) ) And ( 'ISY Time Data' Month is December Or 'ISY Time Data' Month is January Or 'ISY Time Data' Month is February Or ( 'ISY Time Data' Month is March And 'ISY Time Data' Date < 10 ) ) Then Set 'Xmas Lights' On Set 'Kasa Controller / Plug 1' On Set 'Kasa Controller / Plug 2' On Set 'Kasa Controller / Plug 3' On Set 'Z-1 On-Off Power Switch' On Else Set 'Xmas Lights' Off Set 'Kasa Controller / Plug 1' Off Set 'Kasa Controller / Plug 2' Off Set 'Kasa Controller / Plug 3' Off Set 'Z-1 On-Off Power Switch' Off

UPDATE: Re-added port forwarding for my camera back to 8008 and ISY on Polisy works as expected! Now have both ISY and ISY on Polisy showing up in finder w/o prompting!

UPDATE --> PROBLEM SOLVED BY @Michel Kohanim as usual! Problem: I was using SSL (https vs http). Once I added that to my isy finder, backup ran w/o errors, in about 10 minutes. Thanks for everyone's input.

@Geddy Yes interesting that at this site, https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Errors_And_Error_Messages -17001 isn't listed as an error. Just ran the back up again. took just under 50 minutes. Error log stops at time of initiation of backup, with nothing after it, although I had dozens of socket errors. Will wait for ticket response, but need to get this nailed down before any thoughts of moving to isy on polisy. thanks

@Geddy Yes I have the ISY Inventory NS. I have opened a ticket. Just tried to run it again and it just crashed saying it could not create the zip file. No firewall, No VPN.. This is a new error. Will run it again to see what happens when it completes. Wow. looking at my error log, I am getting a few errors every second. But nothing in regards to this attempted backup. Will try it again. 1930230434_ISYErrorLog_v5.3.3__Wed2022_01_0510_43_05AM.txt

Is there any configuration needs once I attach the Zooz ZST10 to the Polisy? If I have to rebuild my zwave network, I assume I have to rebuild all programs and scenes that have any zwave devices in them too? UPDATE: found this in first post regarding configuration of z-wave, but still wondering about second question. How to use Z-Wave: - Plugin your Zooz Stick in one of the USB ports on ISY - Go to Admin Console | Configuration, check Z-Wave Support checkbox. Save and then click on the Reboot button - From that point, Z-Wave works as it does on the ISY-994 with the following exceptions --- Backup/Restore of the Z-Wave dongle is not yet available --- Z-Wave | Z-Wave Version is likely to be blank - Note: for now, S2 is not yet supported

@carealtor yes I understand 8080.. that is what I said. I originally had a typo in my post, so am not sure if you saw that or didnt read it closely enough. Either way, I notice earlier in this thread and elsewhere that people are having problems with other devices on port 8008, such as the Hue Emulator. I noticed that I too had something on that port and when I eliminated it, all worked fine. Why is this happening? I dont know. thanks, and yes I usually have to add my WAN settings to the finder each time I want to use it remotely.

Thank you @kzboray for the excellent directions on how to update my Polisy. It took quite a while but seemed to run as expected. For Mac users: you dont need puTTy as you can just use Terminal However, I still cant get the polisy to show in the ISY Finder. My polisy is at https://192.168.68.76:449. I have tried to use that to get to the ISY. I have also tried https://192.168.68.76:8443/desc and http://192.168.68.76:8080/desc, neither have worked. I have a video system that is on port 8008, is that the problem? I am not sure if I can change it but will try that next. Any suggestions? Below is my system info. Have checked for updates. None available after using the ssh updates. thanks. UPDATE: I have port forwarding on my router for port 8008 to my camera system. Once I deleted that, I had no problem finding the ISY on the Polisy at :8443 Now need to see if I can change the camera system, but need to boot up an old windows PC which can take hours. lol.

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@Geddy yes. thanks. I have seen that thread before too, and hence my gyrations around my switch / router, trying to eliminate it. I will double check any firewall software and see if that changes things as well. ISY is fairly old, PLM has been replaced probably with in the last 2-3 years. Plan to do a restore to the PLM sometime, but have to face the bullet of dealing with all my battery operated devices when I do it, so trying to eliminate other things first. Will probably open a ticket at some point. thanks.

Not true. This Nodeserver is extremely powerful. You can have all kinds of notifications. Please read the README and feel free to reach out. @Jimbo did a great job with this NS. See a few screenshots of notifications I get.