lilyoyo1

I use doorbird as it allows everything to be hardwired and operated locally. Its wired to my NVR so I don't have to go through anyone else's servers for recording. It's also connected to my system with an elk doorbell and ring detector. This allows me to use an iolinc with the system and connect with the isy as well.

I remember those days of trying to program everything. The one lesson I learned was that it caused more problems than it solved. The thing I learned was when stuff worked great it was the best thing in the world. However when it didn't, (even if 10% of the time) it was the most aggravating thing out there. There's no perfect way to accomplish what you're trying to do and long term it'll probably be a bigger headache than simply using a button as you walk into a room or voice control. The system simply cannot account for intentions. Passing through the room multiple times in a 5 minute period will end up turning the fan on as the countdown would be extended. The times you (or someone else) may not want the fan on it would still trigger With that said, I would change the time out on the sensor to something like 4 minutes. Then I would say if sensor was switched on and not switched off wait 5 minutes then set fan on. The long delay allows the sensor to stay on just in case a person isn't moving alot while in the room. If it picks them up then It would continue to stay in the on position which would then trigger the fan on

I use insteon with RTI and love it. However I would not use the isy as an all in one system such as control4. I'm with Scott in regards to Insteon at that scale. It can be done but I would only be willing to touch it if it were under construction and I had a say in how the house would be wired. Radio take isn't a bad setup. I'm just not a fan of their switch design. I love control 4 switches. Due to that I would go with them. Just remember these systems cost time and money. In trying to save them money you'll lose it and time.

As Michel stated, I don't believe that Mobilinc is trying to compete. They are simply trying to control the process they use which they can't do by going through someone else's servers. Besides, Wes has already stated that if demand is high enough he is willing to add udi portal service. If anything, Mobilinc needs UDI more than the other way around. Without the isy, Mobilinc didn't work but without Mobilinc the isy does work. The ISY was designed to be an automation controller. It doesn't need apps with it unless you choose to use one. With time and effort one can quickly outgrow the need for apps. I have sensors, remotes, voice control all running my stuff. Because of that I haven't touched my app in over a year. There are other apps such as agave and ekeypad. Simply search your app store for Isy or universal devices.

I didn't know that was one of your requirements. It is cloud based so it wouldn't fit your needs

I use the ecobee3 and love it. Mine isn't added to my Isy as it works fine for me on its own. However if you want to control it with your Isy there is a node server for it. Should any of them go down, I'd love to try Glas. Not for any particular reason other than I like how it looks.

I own a few of them. Some of the information is on Insteons website in the full owners manual. Unfortunately insteon does not always provide information to a company for them to develop a manual. UDI can take the information provided in the documentation in order to get the motion working but doesn't necessarily mean they have the information to say exactly what something does. Hell their own manual doesn't even cover all that the motion sensor does so it's hard to blame UDI for something that probably wasn't provided to them. Personally I like to test devices to see how they operate but I can understand how some people have no desire to find out how their devices function. The best place in lue of testing the different options would be to email smarthome/insteon to provide the information that you are looking for

Whatever firmware/UI version you're on, (though that isn't the problem) put that on the ISY without using anything else with it. Let it sit for a day or 2 to see if it reboots on it's own (probably won't). That would confirm it's not the system but something you're running with it. With that said, its much easier to disable everything and re-enable 1 at a time vs trying to guess exactly what the errant program is. This is because it may be a couple of programs causing it. By enabling them 1 at a time you can compare the problem program with others that may be the trigger

Since you're having the same exact issue with 2 different devices I would start by disabling all programs to see if reboots still happen. If it stops, re-enable to simple programs first (basic on offs) first and see what happens. If that works then start enabling programs until the isy reboots.

People have been saying insteon will go out of business for the last 10 years. While anything is possible I don't see it happening soon. Even if it does, your devices would still work

Thanks for that. I just wanted to be certain. There are times when people have something different than what they realize. What's your firmware and UI

I have the 4 button. Even with the remote factory reset and showing exclamation marks in the system, I am able to use the replace function to swap to my test remote without issue. Do you have a photo of the front of the New remote as I believe it's actually a 4 button that you have instead of an 8. The reason I believe this is that the ISY is automatically seeing it as a 4 button and not 8 like it's supposed to

What firmware/UI are you using with the isy? The hub doesn't change anything within the fanlinc itself. When you configured your devices with the hub, the links were stored within the devices themselves which is why they can still talk

I'm talking about how it was originally sold. Those are technically different devices. The firmware just allows it to be used in different manners. Sort of like the kpls can be 6 or 8 button. I suspect that is why you're not seeing the icon. You technically have 2 different items.

I also see in the screen shot that its an 8 button remotelinc that you were using before. While they are interchangeable in regards to programmng, I wonder if that plays a part in why you dont have the option.

I have them and it does show up as being replaceable when I add my backup to the isy. The remote will need to be in linking mode once you hit replace

Do you have your remote Linc in a folder? It cannot be in a folder in order to replace

I was thinking more to lock the door with isy programs. This allows you to configure longer wait times prior to locking as well as not having it lock if the door was open (if a sensor was used).

Since you're using the isy with it, why not just let the isy handle auto locking via programs for you. By letting the isy do the heavy lifting, you have much more control and options.

The light control portion is triac based. The fan uses capacitors to step down the power sent to the fan

Its your home and fan. Theres plenty of information provided online and on these forums about the dangers of using a triad based dimmer with a motor so I won't go into the details of why not here. Due to the safety issues involved, I definitely wouldn't tell the op or anyone this is a good path to take.

The buttons on the New and old kpls are interchangeable

The light button will work locally as there's no safety issue if it is turned on. Just the fan buttons themselves won't work. How do you have the fanlinc and wall switch wired? The reason I'm asking is because of the reset. If the fanlinc is wired with constant power from the switch it shouldn't reset by the pull chain. Have you tried an older unit in those fans to see if behavior matches? What about the newer in existing locations that are working with older stuff?

Directly pushing the buttons (except for the light) on the fanlinc won't work for safety reasons. It must be linked to another device in order for it to work. Without details one can only speculate (which is a moot point since that's not what the posting is about) what may be going on. In regards to the fanlight, what kind of bulbs were you using? Did you try with incandescent? I keep a few incandescent bulbs just to verify operability as differences in leds can lead to different experiences.