lilyoyo1

All have been answered in the other polisy posts https://www.universal-devices.com/introducing-polisy/

I can't speak for others but I prefer the pro model to future proof myself. What I do today isn't the same as what I did yesterday. That will hold true for tomorrow. I may never use the WiFi or Bluetooth, but for 50 bucks I'd rather have it just in case. The first time I need to move the isy to add a device will make it worth it. As technology changes and new capabilities arise, I want to have the opportunity to take advantage of it rather than standing on the sidelines wishing I could

It still sucks but they are supposed to be re-doing it. I'm not sure when the new version will be released though

It's not a major connection. They came out with a hub for home kit when it first came out

While we all would love for UDI to make their own stuff we DON'T know why it was pulled. The fact that it happened years ago diminishes that argument as well. If their intentions were to go against them or cut someone off, it would have happened by now as they've had plenty of opportunities to do so. If anything due to Insteon history of control, one can assume they simply didn't want the chip out in the wild so to speak

I'm speaking on speculating about smarthome's intentions and why udi is no longer insteon only. No UDI doesn't control insteon but assuming the moves they make is due to Insteon potentially cutting them off makes no sense. Every choice they've made is sound business decisions and nothing in insteon's history says they have any intentions of cutting out the plm or 3rd party stuff to warrant mentioning it.

UDI is a business and businesses exists first and foremost to make money. Not having all their eggs in 1 basket has nothing to do with smarthome wanting to cancel their plm. Its smart business as well as survival which is why they chose to move beyond support for only insteon. This is like saying they're abandoning insteon and zwave because of Polisy and the need to support IOT devices. UDI got insteon for all that it was worth. With the multitude of multi-technology controllers how does it look for them to only talk to insteon while the competition talked to mutiple technologies. It only makes sense for them to add additional technologies to the mix. This business plan shows even with Polisy. As more users are using network capable devices, they can't solely focus on insteon and zwave. Users want their Ecobee, Sonos, hue, nests, etc to be included in their systems. What does UDI do...they evolve as any good business would do and will continue to do so

The hub has the plm built inside which is why it doesn't need to have a separate plm. Insteon had always had it's own software while having an avenue for third party companies to speak to insteon devices. I highly doubt that would change for 1 system. Home kit was always another revenue stream. It was never going to be a replacement for any system. If that was what they wanted, insteon would have pushed much much more for it to be relevant then what they did. I'm not sure why people are assuming the worse about insteon's intentions. There has not been a single piece of evidence throughout their history that shows they are even remotely interested in not having some type of plm.

On the Polisy webpage (comments section) Michel does state that they plan on having a way to migrate from your current setup to Polisy. At this time, there technically isnt any reason to get polisy if you are already setup unless you want to take advantage of the sale price. The advantages of polisy has already been shared on here. At release there isn't many if you are setup completely with RPI and your ISY. Nodes may be faster due to the system but I dont know how that translates/compares in the real world with separate pieces. The biggest gain will come in the future. What functions are you referring to? I cant speak for UDI but I do feel if you know that you will get Polisy when it comes out then take advantage of the sale price if you can. I personally don't see it taking over the ISY for at least 6 months (if not longer). This would give UDI time to troubleshoot and fix whatever issues that may come about during the early stages. Once they are comfortable where things are, I can see a slow migration of the ISY to Polisy via beta testers etc. Because of that, I wouldnt get Polisy at launch simply to have your ISY on it. That would save you mental frustration from wanting something that isnt available on your timeline.

That I definitely agree with. At the same time, using their products also allows you to learn what they are capable of to help others.

Me personally, its to support UDI. For others its not needing to do the work themselves (plug and play), good looking package, long term additional capabilities that a rpi may not have.

I'm getting my information from Michele's responses in the comments section on the Polisy announcement page. WiFi is there for those who want to use wifi instead of a hardwired connection. It just gives you the option for connecting. Personally hardwired is the best way to be. Bluetooth is for nodes servers that require Bluetooth such as presence poly which allows you to monitor proximity devices. With ever changing technology, I would recommend the pro only because you don't know what you'll do tomorrow. Today and in the foreseeable future you may not need it. A year or 2 now, you might. 5 years ago I never expected to be doing all that I am now. Most people don't. Having the capabilities is worth the extra cost.

Is your son going to get a Polisy? If not you can use it at good house or keep it as a temporary back up should something happen with your polisy. I'm planning on adding mine too my back up ISY so I can play around with stuff prior to adding a node server to the house system

Look into it

In the Amazon app did you add ISY V3 and then login with your portal address

No, I'm saying you should focus on 1 single home and ensure that's the only thing you're accessing

The first thing to do is start from the beginning. Get your Isy set up on your portal with the home you are in. No point in adding complications with other homes etc. before you get your primary place settled. Choose the isy for that home, go to connections and pick Amazon. Once there choose whether you want to use devices, scenes, or programs and set those up. Once done, you can log into your Alexa app, enable to isy V3 skill and then sign into your portal account. Once that is done ask Alexa to discover.

For NWI, all devices already installed need to support it otherwise NWI would not work (All devices must be plus as you mentioned). I'M surprised your lock worked since NWI is only for hardwired devices.

I'm always wary of a high failure rate with a particular device. I tend to look at the environment when I see something like that happen. I can say the amount of people claiming failures (of new plms) have dropped significantly though they aren't at the 2-3 year mark yet.

I'm With you on the sensors. I do like zwave sensors. Though I have a few insteon motion sensors, most are zwave. I also use their locks and outlets (I have insteon outlets too)

Both are good systems with their own pros and cons but I prefer insteon over zwave. For me, you take a step backwards when it comes to zwave switches and dimmers. Scene control with zwave is far inferior to insteon. devices do not operate in unison. For some this isn't a problem but it is for me. I also don't like that zwave is dependant on a controller. For devices that allows for direct control of other devices this is usually limited to no more than 4 devices. All that doesn't even get into being able to easily adjust things such as on levels and ramp rates. Insteon is much easier to customize and configure. Because zwave uses parameters (which are different for each mfg.), this requires to constantly have manuals for each device type you're using for when you want to make a change.

That's one of the many reasons why I'm such an ardent supporter of the ISY. They don't change stuff simply to change them. When they come out with new hardware its because new hardware is needed. The isy I received in 2012/2013 can use the same modules and boards that an isy994 produced today can use. They are great at forward thinking and ensuring their products can last for years without forcing customers to upgrade every couple.

You're more than welcome to ask what you want. I'm just stating that he gave you an answer. If he was speaking on a future version he would have said so. Instead he stated that it would do exactly what you asked. It's not about intelligence. It's simply you refusing to see what something is.

There is no reading between lines. You just have to read his replies. He stated specifically in his first line; Polisy will replace ISY994 but ISY994 will remain an active and supported product for a variety of business reasons. Adding that it already has what it needs for insteon and they are researching zwave alternatives; INSTEON, there's a DB9 jack on the back which will be used to communicate with INSTEON. Given our horrid history with Z-Wave boards (manufacturing, certification, FCC, obsolescence, etc.), we are considering vetting one (max of two) USB dongles that work reliably (700 series). We are researching. As well as what their plans are with elk; In all likelihood ELK will become a Poly with nodes. Your ELK module will of course have the same features as you already have with your ISY's ELK module

He already stated it has what it needs to be a full controller and that's they've been testing for over a year.