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You could just put a sensor on the door. A device installed locally would provide better information over a cloud based system

You're welcome. Glad I could assist

The OP says he THINKS which means he assumes. He could be wrong. It could be from devices within the home as we as other stuff. At the end of the day he bought a 100 dollar item which can help his home but doesn't hurt. It would cost more than the 90 bucks the Eaton costs just to get an electrician to take a look at his grounding which may or may not be an issue.

When you create a scene, you must set the device states in the scene itself and on the controller. Because your scene works properly when you control the scene but not manually, It sounds like you only set your device parameters in the scene. Look at the scene you created. Click on your controller device (the controller is red). You'll have to set your device parameters there as well

Did you set everything in the controller as well or just the actual scene in the isy?

That sounds about right. The dual outlet is like a kpl in that the primary is the top /main and the bottom is a secondary device so it behaves differently to certain commands. With it being a relay, technically there is no fast on/off. What were you hoping to accomplish

They dont want to make it official until they get zwave plus certification. Michel has stated multiple times they wont make it official until they are certified

The isy receives infrared it does not send. It allows you to trigger programs from the signal it receives While I use the harmony nodeserver I've never looked to see if those buttons can be mapped. I prefer 1 touch actions such as my lights turning down when I go to watch a movie etc.

That's another thing I forgot to mention. Voice control cuts down on the amount of keypads and remotes. In previous homes, I spent much more money on additional kpls, buttons for them, and remotes than I'll ever pay for the portal. All in an effort to manually control secondary devices every blue moon. Now, if I want to change the temperature, air purifier, etc. I just tell it vs needing a button for that control

Any wall plate will work with Insteon. They are standard size switches

I don't view voice control as a failure in automation or lacking in automation in itself. For me it's an additional avenue of convenience. Automation can't cover everything. Voice folks in the blanks much like a remote does. For example, when I go into the kitchen to cook, I can tell Google that I'm cooking. It'll then run my cooking program that turns on all the lights, sets the under cabinet lights to Bright white, turns on the exhaust fan and starts my music. I can do this from my keypad as well but keeps me from having to do so. The best part is that it doesn't need to be used. If you don't feel like using it, it's there dormant. If you do, it's ready

Stop repeating your copy and paste posts and go away. Así said before, the op had made his voice so everything you are saying is irrelevant.

Can you just go away!!!??? You keep repeating the same thing over and over. The op had already gotten his answer, decided his path, purchased and installed the device. He's happy and can now move forward. Go troll somewhere else.

I don't have to cite anything. I'm not on here copying and pasting irrelevant information like you are. The op asked for specific information that I have answered as well as others. You came here trolling as usual. Just making the op aware this is how you operate.

If you didn't click on save changes then that would be why it's disappearing. You didn't save it. Since you're using 5.10 you should also update to 5.15 as that is the latest one and may already have a fix if what you are experiencing is a bug

I don't know why everyone is still replying to Westom. He's a troll who simply copies and pasted stuff from websites that have no bearing on the conversation. Hopefully @Michel KohanimKohanim band him again

Don't listen to Westom. He's a troll that goes around doing copy and paste jobs to act like he knows something (look at his responses to me). Go with your whole home surge protector and you'll be ok. Don't get me wrong, grounding matters but at this point the cost to check and potentially redo your grounding is a serious cost. Surge protection is a3 step thing. One at the meter, whole whole and then local such as the ones with power strips and outlets. Mine was installed at the meter when the house was built. Your utility company may or may not allow them so I wouldn't worry about it touch. The others you can control so I would focus on that part.

Another copy and paste job. Trolling sure has seen better days. To bad you don't have any original thoughts. At least change things up some. Ok...Thank you

This is why I said you should try both approaches to see what works best for you. Both styles are pretty easy if you're accustomed to it. I feel the opposite in that scenes are easier to manage. Overall there is a time and place for both ways as there are pros and cons. For me, I don't want to depend on my ISY. If you're too heavy into programming, you are at the mercy of the isy. Scenes will always work.

That is true what you say. However some people like having separate on/off buttons. I personally don't as I like to make use of all my buttons for different tasks but I understand that desire.

All of this is a moot point. The op just wants a recommendation on whole house surge protectors. If he were building a house, grounding and all that information would matter more. Also, here is a link to where you copied and pasted from so others know the full story https://boards.fool.com/i-am-rather-shocked-most-only-want-to-argue-rare-33993346.aspx

I wouldn't have done it that way but if it works for you then that's what matters. There's no right or wrong way. I don't use any of the button groupings feature nor the non toggle modes.

My response was to the op and what he said he wanted. Routines would help him achieve his stated goals at this time. Hopefully in the future the portal could be updated to allow for finer control.

There is no right or wrong way to program the isy. You have those such as myself that prefer scenes enhanced by programs and others that prefer programs over scenes for some crazy reason @larryllix. In the end both ways work and it comes down to user preference. I'm always hesitant to tell a newbie how to program because it doesn't help them learn the nuances to the isy. The reasons as to why a scene is used over a program and vice versa. While it may save time for you, the knowledge needed simply isn't gained. It's much better for you to try different ways post what you've come up with (once it's close just not close enough) and let others help you correct it. That method will give you a better understanding of the hows and whys long term. In regards to your actual questions, anything can be programed or controlled by a scene. As stated earlier it's user preference and there is no right or wrong way: only does it work!!?? You can activate a program for a scene based off the controlling device being turned on or off. My approach to programming and method I use is to start with my overall goal. What am I trying to accomplish??? How does that tie into other things I'm doing today and I may do tomorrow. For example, some scenes are created directly with my devices in a controller/responder setup. This allows my devices to talk to my lights without the isy. They'll still have programs asso6with them but remove the isy and they'll still work. Others may be added to a scene with all devices as a responder. This requires the isy to send the command to the scene when a button is pressed but I have additional capabilities added as I can now do a double tap for secondary actions with the same button. My relax scene does this. A single press sets the mood. A double press sets the mood with music added. If I were programming your setup, I would create scenes and add all of the buttons to each scene. A scene for A button, B button, C button, and D button. I would add the device that is attached to the fan to each button so that it turns on when I hit one of those buttons. I would also add the other buttons to that scene and set them to off. It would look like this: A-controller B-responder- off C- responder- off D- responder-off 2477s- On Scene2 A-responder-off B- controller C- responder- off D- responder- off 2477s- On You'll repeat the same for Buttons C and D. What this does is turns the other buttons whenever one is pressed. I would then write a program that says If control Button A (or any other button) is switched on Then stop program button B, C, D Wait 30 minutes Set scene Fan A off The programs for each button would be the same If control Button B is switched on Then stop program button A, C, D Wait 60 minutes Set scene Fan B off There are other considerations at play for any situation. That's where thinking through everything comes into play. However this will get you started

The red let's you know that it did not receive a response for a linked device.